For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this
analogy:

On an alien world, people talk about a spirit that attacks you (but
not always immediately) if you walk over certain areas. This spirit
also comes out and wreaks havoc during storms, setting things on fire,
making an incredible noise and causing domesticated animals to go
crazy. They call this spirit "zappo" and have done for thousands of
years. Then someone discovers electricity.

They figures out that static electricity is what attacks you when you
walk on certain surfaces (and then, it turns out, you need to touch
certain other surfaces). Massive charges of static electricity are
what cause the destruction and the noise, during storms. Zappo has
been scientifically "proven".

Now replace "zappo" with "God of the bible" and replace "static-
electricity" with "human brain-growth deficit" and Hammond is
suggesting the effects or charecteristics of this spirit (God), are
explained as well by the brain-growth-deficit as zappo is explained by
electricity.

The problem of course is that while electricity is a good explanation
for zappo, the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

It is like suggesting that hail is what explains "zappo", because it
can wreak havoc during storms, make noise when it hits things, and
upset animals; but failing to notice that hail doesn't explain the
fires, the thunder or the "attacks" you get from walking across
certain kinds of surfaces.

Explanations must be examined critically and compared with other
possible explanations. Simply assuming that an explanation is correct
because it fits, is called an abductive-fallacy or "affirmly the
consequent".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abductive_reasoning

This fallacy is easy enough to point out to anyone willing and able to
examine their ideas critically. Unfortunately Mr Hammond is either too
arrogant or too crazy, and so instead he sticks to the absolute
conviction that is explanation for god *must* be correct, and anyone
who disagrees is either stupid, unqualified or part of an evil
conspiracy to suppress this ground-breaking discovery.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this

... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

On Jan 23, 2:02 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist

wrote:
For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this
... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

The god described in the bible was controlling things before humans
existed, before any life existed, before earth existed. Neither a
growth-deficit in humans, nor any of its perceptual effects, were
controlling anything before homo-sapiens came to exist.

The fields of biology, geology and cosmology rely on the idea that
"reality" of some kind existed and went through changes before humans,
or any of their deficits, came along.

All major branches of revealed-religion posit a conscious being that
preceded life on earth.

If your explanation were accepted, who would knowingly pray to the
perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit?

Sounds more like a scientific dis-proof of god, as far as religious
practice is concerned.

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this

... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

In other words, 'god' is a subjective illusion. But we knew that already.
Thanks for playing

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:26:01 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

On Jan 23, 2:02 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist

wrote:
For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this
... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

The god described in the bible was controlling things before humans
existed, before any life existed, before earth existed. Neither a
growth-deficit in humans, nor any of its perceptual effects, were
controlling anything before homo-sapiens came to exist.

[Hammond]
A. We can be sure God wasn't doing anything "before" God
created himself. And we know He had to create himself
because there is by definition no higher power
that could create Him.
B. God created TIME ITSELF, therefore the statement
"before" God created TIME has no logical meaning.
C. The way Physics (the SPOG) explains all this is SIMPLE:
All of "reality" exists only in the human mind,
and this is known as the "Anrhropic Principle"
in modern Physics, and is overwhelmingly
accepted by the scientific community today.
D. Therefore it is perfectly logical to maintain that the
entire Universe, Fossils, Big Bang and all, was
"created" when the (modern) human mind came into
existence 200,00 years ago. (the Bible says 6,000
years ago but modern Anthropology shows them to
be a few thousand years off- they are not 14 billion
years off however.)
E. Therefore "time as we know it" began only 200,000 years
ago, and to say God existed "before" that has no
operational or logical meaning.
F. Educated people have know this for millenia, for
instance St. Augustine put it this way:

"The world was created WITH time, not IN time."
(St. Augustine ca. 300 AD)

The fields of biology, geology and cosmology rely on the idea that
"reality" of some kind existed and went through changes before humans,
or any of their deficits, came along.


[Hammond]
Obviously "reality" could not exist before the creation
of the human mind and Science merely "glosses" over that
fact by pointing out that IF a "hypothetical human" existed
150 billion years ago then he could have seen a dinosaur.
However, the "scientific gloss" breaks down on close
inspection, a fact discovered by Religion thousands of years
ago, and which has recently been REDISCOVERED by Science as
the "Anthropic Principle" which is now textbook science....
and which has finally lead to the discovery of the world's
first Scientific Proof of God (SPOG).

All major branches of revealed-religion posit a conscious being that
preceded life on earth.

[Hammond]
FALSE. "Preceded" is just another word for "before", and
as we have pointed out there IS NO SUCH THING as "before" if
there is no TIME! And as we point out TIME which is a
property of REALITY did not come into existence before
(modern) Man came into existence approximately 200,000 years
ago.


If your explanation were accepted, who would knowingly pray to the
perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit?

[Hammond]
5 Billion people are ALREADY praying to the
"perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit",
and they call it "God".
All the SPOG does is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE that the
Christian (and other major) religions are "scientifically
correct".

Sounds more like a scientific dis-proof of god, as far as religious
practice is concerned.


{Hammond]
Na.... the "big lie" gambit won't work against SPOG...
forgeddabout it.... it's time has come.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:54:37 +1100, "Jeckyl"
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this

... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

In other words, 'god' is a subjective illusion. But we knew that already.
Thanks for playing


[Hammond]
Calling it an "illusion" is about like calling warfare an
"accident"... it's too trite a term to mean anything.
Yes... the reality we see is an "illusion" if you want to
call a "curvature of spacetime" an "illusion".
Problem is the reality we see is what determines our
actions. Sure, Physics can measure "objective reality"
(flat subjective spacetime) but nobody can actually SEE it.
The reality that Physics measures with it's instruments
is called "Heaven" by religion and cannot be seen with
mortal eyes because of the braingrowth deficit... which is
the whole problem.
Hey, dummy up, there are some serious dudes here taking a
second look at this discovery, like Darwinist's recent
post.... he's not here looking for a flame war... he wants
to know the truth if there is a truth to be had. And the
fact that "God" is described by an "Einsteinian curvature"
which is experimentally confirmed to 3 significant figures,
is enough to set any serious mind on edge.... mine merely
being the first.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

"Jeckyl" wrote in message
...
"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this

... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

In other words, 'god' is a subjective illusion. But we knew that already.
Thanks for playing

As opposed to an "objective" illusion?

Thou shall not worship any 'graven' object (ives).

BOfL

On Jan 23, 5:23 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:26:01 -0800 (PST), darwinist



wrote:
On Jan 23, 2:02 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist

wrote:
For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this
... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

The god described in the bible was controlling things before humans
existed, before any life existed, before earth existed. Neither a
growth-deficit in humans, nor any of its perceptual effects, were
controlling anything before homo-sapiens came to exist.

[Hammond]
A. We can be sure God wasn't doing anything "before" God
created himself. And we know He had to create himself
because there is by definition no higher power
that could create Him.
B. God created TIME ITSELF, therefore the statement
"before" God created TIME has no logical meaning.
C. The way Physics (the SPOG) explains all this is SIMPLE:
All of "reality" exists only in the human mind,
and this is known as the "Anrhropic Principle"
in modern Physics, and is overwhelmingly
accepted by the scientific community today.

So would it be false to say that "Dinosaurs existed 100 million years
ago"? Or "Life on earth began about 4 billion years ago"? for example.

D. Therefore it is perfectly logical to maintain that the
entire Universe, Fossils, Big Bang and all, was
"created" when the (modern) human mind came into
existence 200,00 years ago. (the Bible says 6,000
years ago but modern Anthropology shows them to
be a few thousand years off- they are not 14 billion
years off however.)
E. Therefore "time as we know it" began only 200,000 years
ago, and to say God existed "before" that has no
operational or logical meaning.
F. Educated people have know this for millenia, for
instance St. Augustine put it this way:

"The world was created WITH time, not IN time."
(St. Augustine ca. 300 AD)

The fields of biology, geology and cosmology rely on the idea that
"reality" of some kind existed and went through changes before humans,
or any of their deficits, came along.

[Hammond]
Obviously "reality" could not exist before the creation
of the human mind and Science merely "glosses" over that
fact by pointing out that IF a "hypothetical human" existed
150 billion years ago then he could have seen a dinosaur.
However, the "scientific gloss" breaks down on close
inspection, a fact discovered by Religion thousands of years
ago, and which has recently been REDISCOVERED by Science as
the "Anthropic Principle" which is now textbook science....

Then can you name any scientific text-book that or mainstream journal
that says time didn't exist before 200,000 years ago?

and which has finally lead to the discovery of the world's
first Scientific Proof of God (SPOG).

All major branches of revealed-religion posit a conscious being that
preceded life on earth.

[Hammond]
FALSE. "Preceded" is just another word for "before", and
as we have pointed out there IS NO SUCH THING as "before" if
there is no TIME! And as we point out TIME which is a
property of REALITY did not come into existence before
(modern) Man came into existence approximately 200,000 years
ago.

This is in disagreement with the bible which posits a conscious being
existing before life on earth.

If your explanation were accepted, who would knowingly pray to the
perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit?

[Hammond]
5 Billion people are ALREADY praying to the
"perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit",
and they call it "God".

Do they know it's a "perceptual result of a brain growth deficit"? If
they did, why would they (anyone) pray to it?

All the SPOG does is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE that the
Christian (and other major) religions are "scientifically
correct".

Sounds more like a scientific dis-proof of god, as far as religious
practice is concerned.

{Hammond]
Na.... the "big lie" gambit won't work against SPOG...
forgeddabout it.... it's time has come.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:14:16 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

On Jan 23, 5:23 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:26:01 -0800 (PST), darwinist



wrote:
On Jan 23, 2:02 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist

wrote:
For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this
... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

The god described in the bible was controlling things before humans
existed, before any life existed, before earth existed. Neither a
growth-deficit in humans, nor any of its perceptual effects, were
controlling anything before homo-sapiens came to exist.

[Hammond]
A. We can be sure God wasn't doing anything "before" God
created himself. And we know He had to create himself
because there is by definition no higher power
that could create Him.
B. God created TIME ITSELF, therefore the statement
"before" God created TIME has no logical meaning.
C. The way Physics (the SPOG) explains all this is SIMPLE:
All of "reality" exists only in the human mind,
and this is known as the "Anrhropic Principle"
in modern Physics, and is overwhelmingly
accepted by the scientific community today.

So would it be false to say that "Dinosaurs existed 100 million years
ago"? Or "Life on earth began about 4 billion years ago"? for example.


[Hammond]
No it's not false at all... as long as we have no need to
to question the meaning of the word "existence" which you
have used. And normally there is no need to... we simply
accept the "scientific convention" which defines the word
"existed" as meaning "if a hypothetical human observer had
lived 100 million years ago he would confirm that there were
dinosaurs".
However, Religion brings into question the operational
meaning of the word "existed" and points out that in fact
there was no hypothetical human observer living 100 million
years ago and therefore "reality itself" didn't exist 100
million years ago. Reality itsels only began 200,000 years
ago at which time the existence of a 15 billion year past
came into "reality" and was thus "created" along with
everything else in "reality". This (theoretical) fact is
now confirmed by the Anthropic Principle and it leads to the
explanation of the (Biblical) Creation and the discovery of
the entire phenomenon of God which has a real and serious
impact on human existence.
So BOTH evolution and Creation are correct, it is simply
that Creation marks the creation of "reality" while
Evolution marks the creation of the Universe WITHIN said
reality.
So, to put it bluntly, Science simply ignores the
phenomena of God (the creation of reality itself) when
talking about mundane facts like dinosaurs, the Big Bang,
etc... and rightly so... since the phenomena God can be
ignored to a first approximation and in fact IS IGNORED by
most people in everyday life.
However, it has been discovered that the phenomena of
God DOES have a major impact on social behavior and even
individual behavior and personal survival, and in fact has
even been discovered to have an impact on Physics (Anthropic
Principle) recently, so in that case the meaning of the
world "existed" must be more precisely defined..... and
voila, we come face to face with the world's first
scientific proof of God.
Now I will add that there is no use flaming this argument
anymore because Physics has already discovered and accepted
the Anthropic Principle and Hammond has used it to uncover
the world's first scientific proof of God... and in view of
the mighty discussion at the top in Physicis about the A.P.
it is clear to me that the SPOG's time has come and Physics
will notice it soon enough.


D. Therefore it is perfectly logical to maintain that the
entire Universe, Fossils, Big Bang and all, was
"created" when the (modern) human mind came into
existence 200,00 years ago. (the Bible says 6,000
years ago but modern Anthropology shows them to
be a few thousand years off- they are not 14 billion
years off however.)
E. Therefore "time as we know it" began only 200,000 years
ago, and to say God existed "before" that has no
operational or logical meaning.
F. Educated people have know this for millenia, for
instance St. Augustine put it this way:

"The world was created WITH time, not IN time."
(St. Augustine ca. 300 AD)

The fields of biology, geology and cosmology rely on the idea that
"reality" of some kind existed and went through changes before humans,
or any of their deficits, came along.

[Hammond]
Obviously "reality" could not exist before the creation
of the human mind and Science merely "glosses" over that
fact by pointing out that IF a "hypothetical human" existed
150 billion years ago then he could have seen a dinosaur.
However, the "scientific gloss" breaks down on close
inspection, a fact discovered by Religion thousands of years
ago, and which has recently been REDISCOVERED by Science as
the "Anthropic Principle" which is now textbook science....

Then can you name any scientific text-book that or mainstream journal
that says time didn't exist before 200,000 years ago?

and which has finally lead to the discovery of the world's
first Scientific Proof of God (SPOG).

All major branches of revealed-religion posit a conscious being that
preceded life on earth.

[Hammond]
FALSE. "Preceded" is just another word for "before", and
as we have pointed out there IS NO SUCH THING as "before" if
there is no TIME! And as we point out TIME which is a
property of REALITY did not come into existence before
(modern) Man came into existence approximately 200,000 years
ago.

This is in disagreement with the bible which posits a conscious being
existing before life on earth.

If your explanation were accepted, who would knowingly pray to the
perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit?

[Hammond]
5 Billion people are ALREADY praying to the
"perceptual-results of a brain-growth deficit",
and they call it "God".

Do they know it's a "perceptual result of a brain growth deficit"? If
they did, why would they (anyone) pray to it?

All the SPOG does is SCIENTIFICALLY PROVE that the
Christian (and other major) religions are "scientifically
correct".

Sounds more like a scientific dis-proof of god, as far as religious
practice is concerned.

{Hammond]
Na.... the "big lie" gambit won't work against SPOG...
forgeddabout it.... it's time has come.
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
=====================================

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:54:37 +1100, "Jeckyl"
wrote:

"George Hammond" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:20:15 -0800 (PST), darwinist
wrote:

For anyone confused about Hammond's proof of god, consider this

... the brain growth deficit is a bad explanation for god. Most
people won't, for example, worship, pray to, or seek guidance from a
brain-growth-deficit. They won't trust it to provide moral laws, part-
the-seas or multiply loaves of bread.

[Hammond]
Wrong. "brain growth defict" is a descriptive scientific
term.
However, the PERCEPTUAL REALITY caused by the "brain
growth deficit" is an INVISLBE MAN who lives in an INVISIBLE
WORLD, is all powerful, controls reality, and posesses
ETERNAL LIFE In other words the "brain growth deficit"
causes the "GOD" that is worshiped by billions of people
worldwide and is described in the 1,300 pages of the Bible.
You do greatly err.

In other words, 'god' is a subjective illusion. But we knew that already.
Thanks for playing


[Hammond]
Calling it an "illusion" is about like calling warfare an
"accident"... it's too trite a term to mean anything.
Yes... the reality we see is an "illusion" if you want to
call a "curvature of spacetime" an "illusion".
Problem is the reality we see is what determines our
actions. Sure, Physics can measure "objective reality"
(flat subjective spacetime) but nobody can actually SEE it.

We all see it .. in that that is what we are observing an objective reality
... that is what our senses detect .. but what we perceive .. what appears in
our minds .. is our own model of it. In most cases that model works very
well.

The reality that Physics measures with it's instruments
is called "Heaven" by religion

So objective reality is heaven. Hmmm. Then we are already living in heaven
and are ourselves heavenly. Nice to know.

and cannot be seen with
mortal eyes

Of course we can see objective reality .. We cannot see all of it at once ..
we are limited in the range of light our eyes are sensitive to, the range of
sounds our ears are sensitive too, etc etc. But we can build real objective
(heavenly?) machines to help compensate for those difficulties. So we are
no longer limited by our physical sense.

because of the braingrowth deficit... which is
the whole problem.

What difference would it make if our brains were a little larger or could
process a little more,or a little quicker. Reality would still be reality.
We'd require a higher frame-rate to be fooled into thinking a series of
static image was actually movement. But is the world that we see as achild
really any different ot the one we see as an adult (other than having more
knowledge about it)?

Hey, dummy up, there are some serious dudes here taking a
second look at this discovery, like Darwinist's recent
post.... he's not here looking for a flame war... he wants
to know the truth if there is a truth to be had. And the
fact that "God" is described by an "Einsteinian curvature"
which is experimentally confirmed to 3 significant figures,
is enough to set any serious mind on edge.... mine merely
being the first.

You can't do physics on subjective illusions.