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I read Nucleus has Protons & Nutrons. They join together with Nuclear
Force. What is the Equation of Nuclear Force that joins Protons & Nutrons together. Just like Gravitational force is ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two masses. Gravitational Force=G m1*m2/R^2 where G is gravitatiobnal Constant. And Electric Foirce is Also ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two charges. Electrical Force=k` q1*q2/R^2 Where k is dielectric Constant. Does Nuclear Force which joins protons & nutrons is also proportional to square of distance between them? What is the distance betwenn twon Protons in a Nucleus? What is the technique to know whats going in between Nucleus and to measure Nuclear force? Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html |
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On Jan 4, 11:23*am, Sanny wrote:
I read Nucleus has Protons & Nutrons. They join together with Nuclear Force. The nucleus has protons and neutrons. What is the Equation of Nuclear Force that joins Protons & Nutrons together. Just like Gravitational force is ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two masses. It does not work that way. Maybe you should get yourself a book and read up on it. Socks |
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Dear Sanny:
On Jan 4, 9:23*am, Sanny wrote: I read Nucleus has Protons & Nutrons. They join together with Nuclear Force. Strong and weak forces, yes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_interaction What is the Equation of Nuclear Force that joins Protons & Nutrons together. Very complex. See link above. Just like Gravitational force is ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two masses. Gravitational Force=G m1*m2/R^2 where G is gravitatiobnal Constant. And Electric Foirce is Also ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two charges. Electrical Force=k` q1*q2/R^2 Where k is dielectric Constant. Does Nuclear Force which joins protons & nutrons is also proportional to square of distance between them? No. Very different. Seems even to have a discrete nature, completely "turning off" beyond a certain distance. What is the distance betwenn twon Protons in a Nucleus? Classical size measurements make no sense at that scale. We can establish a "size" for the various nucleii, and we know the "size" of protons and neutrons, but "distance" does not necessarily follow. What is the technique to know whats going in between Nucleus and to measure Nuclear force? Smash it, and see what (and how fast) stuff comes out. Add stuff, and see what (and how fast) stuff comes out. David A. Smith |
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On Jan 4, 11:23 am, Sanny wrote:
I read Nucleus has Protons & Nutrons. They join together with Nuclear Force. Usually called the "strong force" or the "strong nuclear force". There is also a "weak nuclear force". What is the Equation of Nuclear Force that joins Protons & Nutrons together. Just like Gravitational force is ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two masses. The corresponding potential for gravity is V ~ -1/r. In classical field theory, force is the gradient of potential. I believe that the Yukawa potential is considered a good model for the strong force: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukawa_potential Does Nuclear Force which joins protons & nutrons is also proportional to square of distance between them? For short distances. The Yukawa potential has a term exp(-r/constant) in the numerator. The constant is equal to h-bar/(m*c) where m is the mass of the mediating particle. The constant is called the "range" of the potential. For distances less than the range, it looks like a 1/r^2 force. For distances greater than the range, it is much weaker than a 1/r^2 force. What is the distance betwenn twon Protons in a Nucleus? On the order of 10^-15 m. What is the technique to know whats going in between Nucleus and to measure Nuclear force? Throwing particles at each other in accelerators. - Randy |
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On Jan 4, 8:23*am, Sanny wrote:
I read Nucleus has Protons & Nutrons. They join together with Nuclear Force. What is the Equation of Nuclear Force that joins Protons & Nutrons together. Just like Gravitational force is ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two masses. Gravitational Force=G m1*m2/R^2 where G is gravitatiobnal Constant. And Electric Foirce is Also ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two charges. Electrical Force=k` q1*q2/R^2 Where k is dielectric Constant. Does Nuclear Force which joins protons & nutrons is also proportional to square of distance between them? What is the distance betwenn twon Protons in a Nucleus? What is the technique to know whats going in between Nucleus and to measure Nuclear force? Bye Sanny Play Chess at:http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html A neutron standard, 80 years out of date, NBS-1 at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, NIST is used to determine the constitiuent particles binding energy. ANd nuclear force was so born. The problem, the standard was cooked and the number of neutrons released in a single fission is a definitive singe number. It is all alternative nostatistical interaction theory inside the fencelines. It is tough, real tough to measure neutron standard output without relying on binding energy or crosssections. SO hard they are afraid to do a true re-calibration for fear they screw-up the security system in place. It is an old archane nuclear security system, doa. now. Right now it is a political toss-up, whether to stay on-course or update theory. It is doa. |
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[I'm answering in the theoretical context of the standard model,
specifically quantum chromodynamics (QCD). I am not expert in this, so I don't go into details.] Sanny wrote: I read Nucleus has Protons & Nutrons. They join together with Nuclear Force. That is only an approximation. The nucleus of an atom with A1 is not really made up of individual nucleons, because this is a quantum system and the nucleons don't really have individual identities -- indeed the number of particles in a given nucleus is not a good quantum number (i.e. does not have a definite value). But the success of the nuclear shell model implies that one can approximate the nucleus as being made up of nucleons.... What is the Equation of Nuclear Force that joins Protons & Nutrons together. Far too complicated to post here. QCD has a Lagrangian that would require many lines of ASCII text. That must be differentiated to obtain "force", but that is essentially meaningless for such a QUANTUM system. Just like Gravitational force is ~ 1/(r^2) where r distance between two masses. That is a CLASSICAL system. Moreover, that is from Newtonian mechanics with is merely an approximation to our current best theory of gravitation, General Relativity. In GR one cannot write down an equation for "gravitational force" (one can only write down an APPROXIMATION). Does Nuclear Force which joins protons & nutrons is also proportional to square of distance between them? Not really, it's MUCH more complicated than that. For instance, one cannot even discuss "nuclear force between this proton and that neutron" because neither of them has a definite identity and "this" does not apply. What is the distance betwenn twon Protons in a Nucleus? Again, the question does not really make sense. But the diameter of a nuclueus is typically a few fm (10^-15 m), depending on the atomic number A, and scaling roughly as A^0.33. What is the tecnique to know whats going in between Nucleus and to measure Nuclear force? Perform electron-nucleus scattering and analyze the results using a model of the nucleus and a model of the interactions between electrons and the nucleus (or its components). This is quite complicated.... Tom Roberts |
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