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Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bring themtogether



 
 
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
BURT
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bring themtogether

What is repulsing protons and electrons?

They behave as if they are the same charge.
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 8:18 pm, BURT wrote:
What is repulsing protons and electrons?

They behave as if they are the same charge.


They attract, which is why an electron is BOUND to
an atom and why it takes energy to free it.

- Randy
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bring them together


"BURT" wrote in message
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What is repulsing protons and electrons?

They behave as if they are the same charge.


In your case , the repulsing element is your un-ending
blasting of questions or statements to this group that are of no use to
anyone who knows the answers.

You might just as well ask "What is repulsing me, ),
from the rest of the group?"


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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 5:18 pm, BURT wrote:
What is repulsing protons and electrons?

They behave as if they are the same charge.




Cretin.
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Eric Gisse
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 4:18 pm, BURT wrote:
What is repulsing protons and electrons?

They behave as if they are the same charge.


Buy a physics textbook instead of spewing endlessly on USENET where
you are neither appreciated or wanted.
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 9:04*pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:18 pm, BURT wrote:

What is repulsing protons and electrons?


They behave as if they are the same charge.


They attract, which is why an electron is BOUND to
an atom and why it takes energy to free it.

* * * * * * * *- Randy


Maybe it's not attraction.

Perhaps unlike charges repel each other just half as much
as much as like charges repel each other.

For more on the topic, see:
Emission-Absorption-Scattering Sub-quantum Electrodynamics.
http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/eas.htm

Bob fritzius
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 7:43 pm, "
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Maybe it's not attraction.

Perhaps unlike charges repel each other just half as much
as much as like charges repel each other.

For more on the topic, see:
Emission-Absorption-Scattering Sub-quantum Electrodynamics.http://www.datasync.com/~rsf1/eas.htm

Bob fritzius


Absolutely : http://www.dkimages.com/discover/pre...5/35092155.JPG

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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 7:04*pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:18 pm, BURT wrote:

What is repulsing protons and electrons?


They behave as if they are the same charge.


They attract, which is why an electron is BOUND to
an atom and why it takes energy to free it.

* * * * * * * *- Randy


What repulsion is keeping it at a distance?
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bring them together

" wrote in
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On Jan 1, 9:04*pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:18 pm, BURT wrote:

What is repulsing protons and electrons?


They behave as if they are the same charge.


They attract, which is why an electron is BOUND to
an atom and why it takes energy to free it.

* * * * * * * *- Randy


Maybe it's not attraction.

Perhaps unlike charges repel each other just half as much
as much as like charges repel each other.


You have to solve the Schroedinger equation in the 1/r potential to see
the answer. It's because the electron's de Broglie wavelength is much
much greater than the proton's de Broglie wavelength, so the two don't
'touch.' It's one of those things where the probabilistic nature of QM
makes our classical intuition unreliable, and applying the logic of
'billiard ball' particles gives the wrong answer. If you can't solve
differential equations, you can't understand.
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Old January 2nd 08 posted to rec.org.mensa, sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
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Default Electric attraction between proton and electron ought to bringthem together

On Jan 1, 11:30 pm, Agent Smith agent-sm...@two-blocks-on-your-
left.com wrote:
" wrote :



On Jan 1, 9:04 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jan 1, 8:18 pm, BURT wrote:


What is repulsing protons and electrons?


They behave as if they are the same charge.


They attract, which is why an electron is BOUND to
an atom and why it takes energy to free it.


- Randy


Maybe it's not attraction.


Perhaps unlike charges repel each other just half as much
as much as like charges repel each other.


You have to solve the Schroedinger equation in the 1/r potential to see
the answer. It's because the electron's de Broglie wavelength is much
much greater than the proton's de Broglie wavelength, so the two don't
'touch.' It's one of those things where the probabilistic nature of QM
makes our classical intuition unreliable, and applying the logic of
'billiard ball' particles gives the wrong answer. If you can't solve
differential equations, you can't understand.



That is so much hooey bull****.

If you can't explain it to a 10 year-old, you
don't know it.

If you don't have a conceptual model, you are
in Quite Mad land.

Here, I'll answer- a virtual particle is
a negative charge perfectly lying in the same place with and
cancelling a positive charge. When this virtual particle
encounters a rapidly-spinning part of space, it gives
both the negative and positive charge the same spin.
Since spinning charges create magnetic fields, and
two different charges spinning the same way create
opposite fields, the charges separate and
are held at a distance by their opposite magnetism.
But their electrical attraction still holds them together at that
distance.

John

John
 




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