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Pioneer Anomaly is GR Time Dilation?



 
 
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Old December 27th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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Sadie Hawkins Day wrote:
However considering your recently expressed opinions on Jews


You must have me confused with someone else, or are just making this up.


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"Tom Roberts" wrote in message . net...
Sadie Hawkins Day wrote:
However considering your recently expressed opinions on Jews


You must have me confused with someone else, or are just making this up.


He probably confused you with Tom Potter.

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Old December 27th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:23:02 GMT, Tom Roberts
wrote:

Sadie Hawkins Day wrote:
However considering your recently expressed opinions on Jews


You must have me confused with someone else, or are just making this up.


I confused you with Tom Potter and apologize profusely.
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Old December 27th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics
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On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:32:07 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Tom Roberts" wrote in message . net...
Sadie Hawkins Day wrote:
However considering your recently expressed opinions on Jews


You must have me confused with someone else, or are just making this up.


He probably confused you with Tom Potter.


True. My profuse apologies to everyone concerned. My comment however
stands and I hope you'll excuse my inadvertent misattribution.
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Old December 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
xxein@comcast.net
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On Dec 27, 5:49*pm, Sadie Hawkins Day wrote:
On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:32:07 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"

wrote:

"Tom Roberts" wrote in rodigy.net...
Sadie Hawkins Day wrote:
However considering your recently expressed opinions on Jews


You must have me confused with someone else, or are just making this up..


He probably confused you with Tom Potter.


True. My profuse apologies to everyone concerned. My comment however
stands and I hope you'll excuse my inadvertent misattribution.


xxein: Which comment? The only one that qualifies as a 'comment' is
about 'Jews'.

You should know that the physic doesn't give a damn about you or your
thoughts. They are of your own self-making and do not relate to the
physic in any way, shape or form.

Give all 'Jew' firemen your name so that they won't have to risk their
own lives to save yours.
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Old December 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Ken S. Tucker
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On Dec 24, 11:08 pm, Roland PJ wrote:
On Dec 24, 6:07 pm, Roland PJ wrote:

The Pioneer Spacecraft have shown an anomalous acceleration towards the
Sun of ~8 x 10^-16 m/s^2.


Pioneer 10 and Pioneer 11 were traveling at about 1.22 x 10^4 m/s and
1.16 x 10^4 m/s away from the Sun at the end of their lifetimes.


Now, the Pioneers will have experienced time dilation in the correct
direction (blue-shift for us on earth) as they escape the gravitational
well of the Sun, as follows:


Actually not with the observed Pioneer signal shift. Seehttp://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0208046

He uses only phase-locked echo-ing of a signal by the Pioneer craft,
with a constant frequency-shift ration between receiver and
transmitter.

This (almost) eliminates any interference of relative time-dilation,
since the signal travels in both directions.


So why didn't y'all just say so in the first place


Maybe your 1st idea was embryotic, never
know where some nudging will take you.
Maybe "speed of gravity" might relate to
that.

Roland


Regards
Ken S. Tucker
 




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