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how can they predict black holes when black holes divide spacetime byzero, which is impossible to do?



 
 
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  #1  
Old December 5th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
scratch
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes divide spacetime byzero, which is impossible to do?

the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists

for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists

how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?
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Old December 5th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
JanPB
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:
the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists

for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists

how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".

--
Jan Bielawski
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Old December 5th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
scratch
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:

the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists


for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists


how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".

--
Jan Bielawski


singularity

i can see you never did numerical computation
finite differences or whatever schemes ta a black
hole

becus if you had done, you had never asked that
question

but thank you anyway
  #4  
Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
JanPB
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 5, 12:38 pm, scratch wrote:
On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:

On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:


the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists


for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists


how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".


--
Jan Bielawski


singularity


So? Charged particles are also singularities in Maxwell's
electrodynamics and I don't see you bent out of shape over this.

i can see you never did numerical computation
finite differences or whatever schemes ta a black
hole


You can infer no such thing from what I wrote. (I did lots of
numerical computations although they were in chemistry not physics.)

becus if you had done, you had never asked that
question

but thank you anyway


"Divide spacetime by zero" is an undefined term so obviously I had to
ask what you meant.

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Jan Bielawski
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Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
scratch
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 6, 3:07 am, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:38 pm, scratch wrote:



On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:


On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:


the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists


for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists


how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".


--
Jan Bielawski


singularity


So? Charged particles are also singularities in Maxwell's
electrodynamics and I don't see you bent out of shape over this.


you dont need ta do numericals on particles

can you see my point now that i can see you
never did physisics for real?

read


i can see you never did numerical computation
finite differences or whatever schemes ta a black
hole


You can infer no such thing from what I wrote. (I did lots of
numerical computations although they were in chemistry not physics.)

becus if you had done, you had never asked that
question


but thank you anyway


"Divide spacetime by zero" is an undefined term so obviously I had to
ask what you meant.


how could not be, if you ever had your fingers dirty
in physics you never asked that question

if were a philosoph yo are that type without bein
sciencist

learn somthin phylosoph

in order ta do numericals you need a mesh, usually
triangular, higher granularity were changes are more

when you do a black hole, and also other things, you
may hit singularity, so you need to adjust

but you cannot adjust a black hole becus an adjusted
black hole without singularity is not a black hole

i expect yo say thank you for tha things you just learned


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Jan Bielawski


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Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
JanPB
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 6, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:
On Dec 6, 3:07 am, JanPB wrote:



On Dec 5, 12:38 pm, scratch wrote:


On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:


On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:


the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists


for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists


how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".


--
Jan Bielawski


singularity


So? Charged particles are also singularities in Maxwell's
electrodynamics and I don't see you bent out of shape over this.


you dont need ta do numericals on particles


So you are now changing your mind - it's no longer singularity or
"division by zero" that matters, it's just that particles are somehow
OK. I know very well where you want to go with this and I'm trying to
tease out a coherent statement from you.

can you see my point now that i can see you
never did physisics for real?


Obviously not - physics is one thing, numerical computations are
another. They do meet here and there but to say that one doesn't
understand physics because one did not do numerical computations
(which happens to be false in my case, BTW) is preposterous. Are you
prepared to state that Newton, Lagrange, etc. were not physicists
because they didn't work with computers?

--
Jan Bielawski
  #7  
Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
alt.geek
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 6, 1:07 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 6, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:



On Dec 6, 3:07 am, JanPB wrote:


On Dec 5, 12:38 pm, scratch wrote:


On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:


On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:


the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists


for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists


how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".


--
Jan Bielawski


singularity


So? Charged particles are also singularities in Maxwell's
electrodynamics and I don't see you bent out of shape over this.


you dont need ta do numericals on particles


So you are now changing your mind - it's no longer singularity or
"division by zero" that matters, it's just that particles are somehow
OK. I know very well where you want to go with this and I'm trying to
tease out a coherent statement from you.

can you see my point now that i can see you
never did physisics for real?


Obviously not - physics is one thing, numerical computations are
another. They do meet here and there but to say that one doesn't
understand physics because one did not do numerical computations
(which happens to be false in my case, BTW) is preposterous. Are you
prepared to state that Newton, Lagrange, etc. were not physicists
because they didn't work with computers?

--
Jan Bielawski


Dude. I'm pretty sure scratch's knobs go to 11.
  #8  
Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
scratch
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes dividespacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

On Dec 6, 9:07 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 6, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:



On Dec 6, 3:07 am, JanPB wrote:


On Dec 5, 12:38 pm, scratch wrote:


On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:


On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:


the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists


for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists


how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?


Define "divide spacetime by zero".


--
Jan Bielawski


singularity


So? Charged particles are also singularities in Maxwell's
electrodynamics and I don't see you bent out of shape over this.


you dont need ta do numericals on particles


So you are now changing your mind - it's no longer singularity or
"division by zero" that matters, it's just that particles are somehow
OK. I know very well where you want to go with this and I'm trying to
tease out a coherent statement from you.


third time you just prove yourself a dumb ass

learn what sciencific math modelling is all about

you fool


can you see my point now that i can see you
never did physisics for real?


Obviously not -


than why snipping the funny part?

are you ashame of yourself?

physics is one thing, numerical computations are
another.


forth time you just prove yourself a dumb ass

They do meet here and there but to say that one doesn't
understand physics because one did not do numerical computations
(which happens to be false in my case, BTW) is preposterous. Are you
prepared to state that Newton, Lagrange, etc. were not physicists
because they didn't work with computers?


in a way yeeees

reread what you just snipped and learn somthin fool


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Jan Bielawski


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Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
bz
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?

"alt.geek" wrote in news:06d27590-36b1-428c-a93d-
:

Dude. I'm pretty sure scratch's knobs go to 11.

Scratch is the same ole 'tha' troll that keeps posting 'almost sensible
questions' and then insulting those that try to answer them.

Don't feed the trolls.





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infinite set.

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Old December 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Daniel Pitts[_2_]
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Default how can they predict black holes when black holes divide spacetimeby zero, which is impossible to do?

scratch wrote:
On Dec 6, 9:07 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 6, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:



On Dec 6, 3:07 am, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 5, 12:38 pm, scratch wrote:
On Dec 5, 9:14 pm, JanPB wrote:
On Dec 5, 11:39 am, scratch wrote:
the roman empire had no zero in their alphabet, becus
they were wise persons, thay knew that zero does not
exists
for them a black hole is stoopid thing ta exists
how can they predict black holes when black holes
divide spacetime by zero, which is impossible to do?
Define "divide spacetime by zero".
--
Jan Bielawski
singularity
So? Charged particles are also singularities in Maxwell's
electrodynamics and I don't see you bent out of shape over this.
you dont need ta do numericals on particles

So you are now changing your mind - it's no longer singularity or
"division by zero" that matters, it's just that particles are somehow
OK. I know very well where you want to go with this and I'm trying to
tease out a coherent statement from you.


third time you just prove yourself a dumb ass

learn what sciencific math modelling is all about

you fool

can you see my point now that i can see you
never did physisics for real?

Obviously not -


than why snipping the funny part?

are you ashame of yourself?

physics is one thing, numerical computations are
another.


forth time you just prove yourself a dumb ass

They do meet here and there but to say that one doesn't
understand physics because one did not do numerical computations
(which happens to be false in my case, BTW) is preposterous. Are you
prepared to state that Newton, Lagrange, etc. were not physicists
because they didn't work with computers?


in a way yeeees

reread what you just snipped and learn somthin fool

--
Jan Bielawski


Spacetime is an entity, just like a chair is an entity... How do you
divide a chair by zero (or any other number).

Also, doesn't sine(x)/x have a valid value lim x-0? Obviously you
missed that calculus course.

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Daniel Pitts' Tech Blog: http://virtualinfinity.net/wordpress/
 




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