FIRSTLY:

If light has no mass and is instead a reverbation of it's medium. Then
one could rotate wave reflectors (mirror simulation) in air or water
and record the sagnac effect on sound or water waves....the wave
reflectors (mirrors) disturb the medium thus possibly the ether.


SECONDLY:

If the ether is an energy field then it could resemble a field of
carrier waves.

Modulate a radio carrier wave to travel in both directions of rotating
reflectors (material from satellite dishes) as in a Sagnac model. Then
record if there's any phase latency between both modulations.

If the Sagnac has ZERO ***OR*** a similar effect to light then the
Sagnac experiment CANNOT validate the existance of an ether for it
cannot validate the existance of air, water or a carrier wave.

wrote:
FIRSTLY:

If light has no mass and is instead a reverbation of it's medium. Then
one could rotate wave reflectors (mirror simulation) in air or water
and record the sagnac effect on sound or water waves....the wave
reflectors (mirrors) disturb the medium thus possibly the ether.


SECONDLY:

If the ether is an energy field then it could resemble a field of
carrier waves.

Modulate a radio carrier wave to travel in both directions of rotating
reflectors (material from satellite dishes) as in a Sagnac model. Then
record if there's any phase latency between both modulations.

If the Sagnac has ZERO ***OR*** a similar effect to light then the
Sagnac experiment CANNOT validate the existance of an ether for it
cannot validate the existance of air, water or a carrier wave.


The Sagnac experiment confirm SR and ether theories,
and falsifes the Ritz Emission Theory.

MMX confirm SR and Ritz Emission Theory,
and falsifies a "Michelson type" ether theory.

--
Paul

http://home.c2i.net/pb_andersen/

wrote:
FIRSTLY:

If light has no mass and is instead a reverbation of it's medium. Then

Light has no mass, because experiment shows that for photons, E=p*c.
Since E^2=p^2*c^2+m^2*c^4, we get m=0 for photons.

one could rotate wave reflectors (mirror simulation) in air or water
and record the sagnac effect on sound or water waves....the wave
reflectors (mirrors) disturb the medium thus possibly the ether.

The experiment has been already done by Fizeau. It confirms the SR
explanation of the Sagnac effect.

You should also notice that there is no correlation between sound
waves and water waves to light waves, other than the fact that all are
waves. Sound and water require a medium to propagate the wave, whereas
light is its own medium (no aether needed).



SECONDLY:

If the ether is an energy field then it could resemble a field of

It's not. The aether doesn't exist. Ether on the other hand is a class
of chemicals that have nothing to do with light.

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On Oct 25, 8:59 pm, The TimeLord
wrote:
wrote:
FIRSTLY:

If light has no mass and is instead a reverbation of it's medium. Then

Light has no mass, because experiment shows that for photons, E=p*c.
Since E^2=p^2*c^2+m^2*c^4, we get m=0 for photons.


Not me but many in this newsgroup dispute it, such as Uncle Al and
have other experiments that show the opposite.

Alos, Mass vs no mass almost similar to particle(photoelectric) vs
wave experiments.

one could rotate wave reflectors (mirror simulation) in air or water
and record the sagnac effect on sound or water waves....the wave
reflectors (mirrors) disturb the medium thus possibly the ether.

The experiment has been already done by Fizeau. It confirms the SR
explanation of the Sagnac effect.

You should also notice that there is no correlation between sound
waves and water waves to light waves, other than the fact that all are
waves. Sound and water require a medium to propagate the wave, whereas
light is its own medium (no aether needed).

You concluding by going backwards, no ether then we can't compare it
to those, where as the point is to prove there is no ether...and yes
there are other experiments that show no ether....once again your
going backwards by only stressing this (same as electron some
experimetns show it's a particle others a wave).

Example: Lets deny Einstein's photoelectric experiment and Nobel prize
for it because another shows it's a wave.



SECONDLY:

If the ether is an energy field then it could resemble a field of

It's not. The aether doesn't exist. Ether on the other hand is a class
of chemicals that have nothing to do with light.


I would agree if it were but a little effect on the world we live in.
For ages of belief on the Ethereal universe where the multiple heavens
reside and the highest of the True North belonging to THEE most high.
[...]

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On Oct 25, 9:36 pm, " wrote:
On Oct 25, 8:59 pm, The TimeLord
wrote:

wrote:
FIRSTLY:

If light has no mass and is instead a reverbation of it's medium. Then

Light has no mass, because experiment shows that for photons, E=p*c.
Since E^2=p^2*c^2+m^2*c^4, we get m=0 for photons.

Not me but many in this newsgroup dispute it, such as Uncle Al and
have other experiments that show the opposite.

Alos, Mass vs no mass almost similar to particle(photoelectric) vs
wave experiments.

one could rotate wave reflectors (mirror simulation) in air or water
and record the sagnac effect on sound or water waves....the wave
reflectors (mirrors) disturb the medium thus possibly the ether.

The experiment has been already done by Fizeau. It confirms the SR
explanation of the Sagnac effect.

You should also notice that there is no correlation between sound
waves and water waves to light waves, other than the fact that all are
waves. Sound and water require a medium to propagate the wave, whereas
light is its own medium (no aether needed).

You concluding by going backwards, no ether then we can't compare it
to those, where as the point is to prove there is no ether...and yes
there are other experiments that show no ether....once again your
going backwards by only stressing this (same as electron some
experimetns show it's a particle others a wave).

Example: Lets deny Einstein's photoelectric experiment and Nobel prize
for it because another shows it's a wave.



SECONDLY:

If the ether is an energy field then it could resemble a field of

It's not. The aether doesn't exist. Ether on the other hand is a class
of chemicals that have nothing to do with light.

I would agree if it were but a little effect on the world we live in.
For ages of belief on the Ethereal universe where the multiple heavens
reside and the highest of the True North belonging to THEE most high.


Example: No earthian test has shown any ether or any God or even
clearly a big bang, thus can we conclude none exist?



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wrote:
On Oct 25, 8:59 pm, The TimeLord
wrote:
wrote:
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Not me but many in this newsgroup dispute it, such as Uncle Al and

Sorry, I just clipped some of the intro lines without really looking.

[...]
You should also notice that there is no correlation between sound
waves and water waves to light waves, other than the fact that all are
waves. Sound and water require a medium to propagate the wave, whereas
light is its own medium (no aether needed).

You concluding by going backwards, no ether then we can't compare it
to those, where as the point is to prove there is no ether...and yes
there are other experiments that show no ether....once again your
going backwards by only stressing this (same as electron some
experimetns show it's a particle others a wave).

Example: Lets deny Einstein's photoelectric experiment and Nobel prize
for it because another shows it's a wave.

Good point, thanks.

[...]

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