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Old September 20th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
capstan
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Default speed of metal is higher than speed of light

understand this for me gentlemen

if light from A to B goes in 1 second, aCcording ta relativity
a grain of metal would do tha job in only ½ of second, and
even less

this is becus mass particles experience length contraction,
while light or photons, massless particles, does not

if this is not a blatant contradiction, i dont knoe what

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Old September 20th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default speed of metal is higher than speed of light

On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, capstan wrote:
understand this for me gentlemen

if light from A to B goes in 1 second, aCcording ta relativity
a grain of metal would do tha job in only ½ of second, and
even less

this is becus mass particles experience length contraction,
while light or photons, massless particles, does not

if this is not a blatant contradiction, i dont knoe what


xxein: So? Eliminate the contradiction.

Why do you believe everything Einstein says? He didn't.

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Old September 21st 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default speed of metal is higher than speed of light


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On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, capstan wrote:
understand this for me gentlemen

if light from A to B goes in 1 second, aCcording ta relativity
a grain of metal would do tha job in only ½ of second, and
even less

this is becus mass particles experience length contraction,
while light or photons, massless particles, does not

if this is not a blatant contradiction, i dont knoe what


There is no contradition here because if we measure the length of the
traveling object along the length of contraction we will observe a Lorentz
contraction. But that doesn't mean in any way that any part of the object is
moving faster than light.

And there is no truth in what you say. If light goes from A to B in a
straight line in an inertial frame then nothing is able to get there is less
that time,, not even a grain of metal. I see you claim that a grain of metal
would do it in half that time but there is no basis for such a claim and all
observations made to date contradict that any such speed would be obtained
by normal matter. If tachyons existed they it would be possible for a
tachyon. But I don't believe that tachon's exist. The person who came up
with that idea was basing his assumptions on weak grounds. In my opinion
those assumtions were invalid.

Pete


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Old September 21st 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default speed of metal is higher than speed of light

On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, capstan wrote:
understand this for me gentlemen

if light from A to B goes in 1 second, aCcording ta relativity
a grain of metal would do tha job in only ½ of second, and
even less

this is becus mass particles experience length contraction,
while light or photons, massless particles, does not

if this is not a blatant contradiction, i dont knoe what


But we already know that you don't know what.


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Old September 21st 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
capstan
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Default speed of metal is higher than speed of light


Pmb wrote:
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On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, capstan wrote:
understand this for me gentlemen

if light from A to B goes in 1 second, aCcording ta relativity
a grain of metal would do tha job in only ½ of second, and
even less

this is becus mass particles experience length contraction,
while light or photons, massless particles, does not

if this is not a blatant contradiction, i dont knoe what


There is no contradition here because if we measure the length of the
traveling object along the length of contraction we will observe a Lorentz
contraction. But that doesn't mean in any way that any part of the object is
moving faster than light.

And there is no truth in what you say. If light goes from A to B in a
straight line in an inertial frame then nothing is able to get there is less
that time,, not even a grain of metal. I see you claim that a grain of metal
would do it in half that time but there is no basis for such a claim and all
observations made to date contradict that any such speed would be obtained
by normal matter. If tachyons existed they it would be possible for a
tachyon. But I don't believe that tachon's exist. The person who came up
with that idea was basing his assumptions on weak grounds. In my opinion
those assumtions were invalid.

Pete


are you tellin me that muons dont go from A to B faster
than light becus thay namely experience length contraction?

are you sure you know your tensors?

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Old September 21st 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default speed of metal is higher than speed of light

On Sep 21, 9:14 pm, Igor wrote:
On Sep 20, 3:54 pm, capstan wrote:

understand this for me gentlemen


if light from A to B goes in 1 second, aCcording ta relativity
a grain of metal would do tha job in only ½ of second, and
even less


this is becus mass particles experience length contraction,
while light or photons, massless particles, does not


if this is not a blatant contradiction, i dont knoe what


But we already know that you don't know what.


dear mister

why not better teach us tha right way?

please


 




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