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Old September 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Is this true:

1.

a) An electron charge has an negative? electric field (E_FIELD)

b) ...but a photon's E_Field is neutral?

c) An electron E_Field becomes neutral when coupled with a proton.


2.

a) An electron charge's E_FIELD is in all directions

b) A photon's E_FIELD is longitudinal "only" with the photon's travel
direction?

c) A electron charge's E_FIELD is in zero direction (neutral) when
coupled with a proton (or perhaps longitudinal with the direction of
the proton...and likewise in an electric circuit)?

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Old September 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 6, 12:21 pm, " wrote:
Is this true:

1.

a) An electron charge has an negative? electric field (E_FIELD)


The standard convention is for electric fields to go from positive
charges to negative charges.

b) ...but a photon's E_Field is neutral?


Your statement is meaningless. The electric field of an EM wave
oscillates transverse to the direction in which it is traveling.

c) An electron E_Field becomes neutral when coupled with a proton.


The word neutral is meaningless with electric fields. There is a
combined field going from the proton to the electron that is divergent
at the opposite ends.

2.

a) An electron charge's E_FIELD is in all directions


Correct.

b) A photon's E_FIELD is longitudinal "only" with the photon's travel
direction?


Longitudinal fields are associated with mass. The fields of an EM
wave are transverse. However, there may be sa longitudinal component
if the photon had a mass, which would need to be extremely small. The
latest experimental upper bound is on the order of 10^-51 grams.


c) A electron charge's E_FIELD is in zero direction (neutral) when
coupled with a proton (or perhaps longitudinal with the direction of
the proton...and likewise in an electric circuit)?


What the hell is a zero direction? Not that it gets much better. You
really enjoy going out with complete nonsense, don't you?


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Old September 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Comparing Charge and Photon's E_FIELD

On Sep 6, 1:59 pm, Igor wrote:
On Sep 6, 12:21 pm, " wrote:

Is this true:


1.


a) An electron charge has an negative? electric field (E_FIELD)


The standard convention is for electric fields to go from positive
charges to negative charges.

b) ...but a photon's E_Field is neutral?


Your statement is meaningless. The electric field of an EM wave
oscillates transverse to the direction in which it is traveling.


So is it's magnetic component but that doesn't make the photon's
magnetic field neutral.

Tom Roberts or someone once told me either the photon has zero charge
and/or zero electric field, most likely both since I believe the
Electric Force is a component of the Electric field and if E = 0 then
likewise the E_Field (E= kqq/r^2).




c) An electron E_Field becomes neutral when coupled with a proton.


The word neutral is meaningless with electric fields. There is a
combined field going from the proton to the electron that is divergent
at the opposite ends.


A neutral E_field will have zero effect on other charges (other
electrons).

2.


a) An electron charge's E_FIELD is in all directions


Correct.

b) A photon's E_FIELD is longitudinal "only" with the photon's travel
direction?


My mistake, transverse as you said.

Longitudinal fields are associated with mass. The fields of an EM
wave are transverse. However, there may be sa longitudinal component
if the photon had a mass, which would need to be extremely small. The
latest experimental upper bound is on the order of 10^-51 grams.

c) A electron charge's E_FIELD is in zero direction (neutral) when
coupled with a proton (or perhaps longitudinal with the direction of
the proton...and likewise in an electric circuit)?


What the hell is a zero direction? Not that it gets much better. You
really enjoy going out with complete nonsense, don't you?


The field is bent towards the photon it coupled with. It's direction
is different then an electron that is by itself.



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Old September 6th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 09:21:15 -0700, "
wrote:

[...everything you write down is wrong...]

http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-E.../dp/013805326X
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Old September 7th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Whom "taught" whom the very basic that improper time is invariant. You
can't even build a spacetime model without it, meaning Erica Gisse is
a N.O.V.I.C.E.




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Old September 7th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Sep 6, 2:53 pm, " wrote:
On Sep 6, 1:59 pm, Igor wrote:





On Sep 6, 12:21 pm, " wrote:


Is this true:


1.


a) An electron charge has an negative? electric field (E_FIELD)


The standard convention is for electric fields to go from positive
charges to negative charges.


b) ...but a photon's E_Field is neutral?


Your statement is meaningless. The electric field of an EM wave
oscillates transverse to the direction in which it is traveling.


So is it's magnetic component but that doesn't make the photon's
magnetic field neutral.

Tom Roberts or someone once told me either the photon has zero charge
and/or zero electric field, most likely both since I believe the
Electric Force is a component of the Electric field and if E = 0 then
likewise the E_Field (E= kqq/r^2).

c) An electron E_Field becomes neutral when coupled with a proton.


The word neutral is meaningless with electric fields. There is a
combined field going from the proton to the electron that is divergent
at the opposite ends.


A neutral E_field will have zero effect on other charges (other
electrons).

2.


a) An electron charge's E_FIELD is in all directions


Correct.


b) A photon's E_FIELD is longitudinal "only" with the photon's travel
direction?


My mistake, transverse as you said.

Longitudinal fields are associated with mass. The fields of an EM
wave are transverse. However, there may be sa longitudinal component
if the photon had a mass, which would need to be extremely small. The
latest experimental upper bound is on the order of 10^-51 grams.


c) A electron charge's E_FIELD is in zero direction (neutral) when
coupled with a proton (or perhaps longitudinal with the direction of
the proton...and likewise in an electric circuit)?


What the hell is a zero direction? Not that it gets much better. You
really enjoy going out with complete nonsense, don't you?


The field is bent towards the photon it coupled with. It's direction
is different then an electron that is by itself.



I guess I should add the gazornanplat myself. In your haste to show
just how ridiculous your understanding of physics is, you left it
out. And one more question. Are you really that stupid, or are you
simply acting like s complete ignoramus just to get everyone's
attention?






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Old September 7th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Comparing Charge and Photon's E_FIELD

On Sep 7, 11:32 pm, Igor wrote:
On Sep 6, 2:53 pm, " wrote:



On Sep 6, 1:59 pm, Igor wrote:


On Sep 6, 12:21 pm, " wrote:


Is this true:


1.


a) An electron charge has an negative? electric field (E_FIELD)


The standard convention is for electric fields to go from positive
charges to negative charges.'


wrong fool

the current of charges is that standard convention, not
the electric field or any fields



b) ...but a photon's E_Field is neutral?


Your statement is meaningless. The electric field of an EM wave
oscillates transverse to the direction in which it is traveling.


wrong fool,

that is only a depiction, for fools, in a try to understand,
and it is an amplitude of somthin, not a field


So is it's magnetic component but that doesn't make the photon's
magnetic field neutral.


Tom Roberts or someone once told me either the photon has zero charge
and/or zero electric field, most likely both since I believe the
Electric Force is a component of the Electric field and if E = 0 then
likewise the E_Field (E= kqq/r^2).


c) An electron E_Field becomes neutral when coupled with a proton.


The word neutral is meaningless with electric fields. There is a


exactly fool,

you just said before that it has a direction, from plus ta minus

what a fool

combined field going from the proton to the electron that is divergent
at the opposite ends.


what tha fok is a combined field, which goes, still,

you foken moron


A neutral E_field will have zero effect on other charges (other
electrons).


2.


a) An electron charge's E_FIELD is in all directions


Correct.


b) A photon's E_FIELD is longitudinal "only" with the photon's travel
direction?


My mistake, transverse as you said.


Longitudinal fields are associated with mass. The fields of an EM
wave are transverse. However, there may be sa longitudinal component
if the photon had a mass, which would need to be extremely small. The
latest experimental upper bound is on the order of 10^-51 grams.


c) A electron charge's E_FIELD is in zero direction (neutral) when
coupled with a proton (or perhaps longitudinal with the direction of
the proton...and likewise in an electric circuit)?


What the hell is a zero direction? Not that it gets much better. You
really enjoy going out with complete nonsense, don't you?


look whos talkin

you are more foken stoopid than anyone else

get lost


The field is bent towards the photon it coupled with. It's direction
is different then an electron that is by itself.


I guess I should add the gazornanplat myself. In your haste to show
just how ridiculous your understanding of physics is, you left it
out. And one more question. Are you really that stupid, or are you
simply acting like s complete ignoramus just to get everyone's
attention?



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Old September 7th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Eric Gisse[_2_]
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Default Comparing Charge and Photon's E_FIELD

On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 03:54:30 -0700, "
wrote:

Whom "taught" whom the very basic that improper time is invariant. You
can't even build a spacetime model without it, meaning Erica Gisse is
a N.O.V.I.C.E.




Hint: Correcting my slip of mind does not mean you either know what
you are talking about or are in any position to judge me.

Everything you say continues to be absolutely stupid and is
contradicted by what is written in any reasonable electrodynamics
text.
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Old September 8th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Go back to school, spacetime is invariant likewise temperature.


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Old September 8th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Comparing Charge and Photon's E_FIELD

On Sep 7, 5:32 pm, Igor wrote:
On Sep 6, 2:53 pm, " wrote:





On Sep 6, 1:59 pm, Igor wrote:


On Sep 6, 12:21 pm, " wrote:


Is this true:


1.


a) An electron charge has an negative? electric field (E_FIELD)


The standard convention is for electric fields to go from positive
charges to negative charges.


b) ...but a photon's E_Field is neutral?


Your statement is meaningless. The electric field of an EM wave
oscillates transverse to the direction in which it is traveling.


So is it's magnetic component but that doesn't make the photon's
magnetic field neutral.


Tom Roberts or someone once told me either the photon has zero charge
and/or zero electric field, most likely both since I believe the
Electric Force is a component of the Electric field and if E = 0 then
likewise the E_Field (E= kqq/r^2).


c) An electron E_Field becomes neutral when coupled with a proton.


The word neutral is meaningless with electric fields. There is a
combined field going from the proton to the electron that is divergent
at the opposite ends.


A neutral E_field will have zero effect on other charges (other
electrons).


2.


a) An electron charge's E_FIELD is in all directions


Correct.


b) A photon's E_FIELD is longitudinal "only" with the photon's travel
direction?


My mistake, transverse as you said.


Longitudinal fields are associated with mass. The fields of an EM
wave are transverse. However, there may be sa longitudinal component
if the photon had a mass, which would need to be extremely small. The
latest experimental upper bound is on the order of 10^-51 grams.


c) A electron charge's E_FIELD is in zero direction (neutral) when
coupled with a proton (or perhaps longitudinal with the direction of
the proton...and likewise in an electric circuit)?


What the hell is a zero direction? Not that it gets much better. You
really enjoy going out with complete nonsense, don't you?


The field is bent towards the photon it coupled with. It's direction
is different then an electron that is by itself.




oops ....."towards the ***proton*** it coupled with"

I guess I should add the gazornanplat myself. In your haste to show
just how ridiculous your understanding of physics is, you left it
out. And one more question. Are you really that stupid, or are you
simply acting like s complete ignoramus just to get everyone's
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