"Uncle Al" wrote in message
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: Androcles wrote:
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: Rabbi Albert Einstein
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: The Androclitty doctrine: Protect confused angry ignorance against
: achievement through technical incompetence exercising intellectual
: irresponsibility.

The Uncle Stooopid doctrine:
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--
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...rt/tAB=tBA.gif

'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B doesn't equal the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A in the stationary system, obviously.' --
Heretic Jan Bielawski, assistant light-bulb changer.

Ref: ups.com


"SR is GR with G=0." -- Uncle Stooopid.

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid.


"Counterfactual assumptions yield nonsense.
If such a thing were actually observed, reliably and reproducibly, then
relativity would immediately need a major overhaul if not a complete
replacement." -- Humpty Roberts.

Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would
have allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer
at the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

According to Phuckwit Duck it was geography and history that Einstein
failed on, as if Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule would give a
damn. That tells you the lengths these lying *******s will go to to
protect their tin god, but its always a laugh when they slip up.
Trolls, the lot of them.

"This is PHYSICS, not math or logic, and "proof" is completely
irrelevant." -- Humpty Roberts.

Rex wrote:
Special Relativity and General Relativity are pretty boring.

....to what degree have you studied either?

[...]

On Sep 4, 1:30 am, Uncle Al wrote:
Rex wrote:

Special Relativity and General Relativity are pretty boring.

[snip crap]

Idiot. SR is GR with G=0.

1. quantising General Relativity

GR founding postulates c=c G=G h=0. Can't be quantized by definition.

Idiot

2. quantising a different classical theory, while still having
general relativity emerge as a low-energy (large-distance) limit.

ALL classical gravitation theories postulate h=0. "Classical" =
"non-quantized"

Idiot.

3. having general relativity emerge as a low-energy limit
of a quantum theory that is not a quantization of a classical
theory

You don't know the difference between weak field and strong field vs.
classical and quantum limits.

Idiot.

4. having both general relativity and quantum theory emerge
from a theory very different from both

[snip crap]

A high school pendulum with sin(theta)=theta and the full expression
with a power series of angle cannot wildly diverge from a common
origin, ditto Newton and Einstein. The common background is still
there wahtever the decimal trim.

Idiot.

This assumes QM and GR coming from a
another theory where you can overdide probabilities,
etc.

Idiot.


You are the mother of all idiots. The above 4 possibilities
come from your colleague: See this intreresting 58 page paper:

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9903072

It appears in the $53 book "Physics Meet Philosophy at
the Planck Scale". What is good is that 80% of the
papers mentioned in this book can be found at arxiv.

Anyway. SR and GR is just the tip of the iceberg.
Try to tackle teleportation Mr. Genius. You want a
demo. This is how a demo can be done. When focusing
in your living room. A quantum presence is already there.
By densifying or photon charging the state, it is possible
for an apparition to exist. In fact this is how apparitions
occur. I have a friend who while asleep can project her
consciousness in the world and appear to people as
solid. But all this is just semi-teleportation because
you don't transfer the entire quantum state of the person.
To do the latter, spacetime itself is overridden, and it
needs consciousness of very high calibre to do this
although it is possible to teleport a pencil and making
it reappear in another part of the room by both controlling
the quantum, paraquantum and spacetime properties of
the pencil and room. This is the promise of quantum
spacetime and you have the mathematical abilities to
make it work in the world and it can even make you
a billionaire by having your own Fedex Teleporting
Courier Service.

rex



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On Sep 3, 10:18 am, Tom Roberts wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
SR is GR with G=0.

Not really. SR is the local limit of GR. Alternatively, SR is GR applied
to a flat manifold with topology R^4.

There are solutions of "GR with G=0" in which SR is not valid. Some
examples: all of the gravitational wave manifolds, and even the flat
manifold with topology SxR^2xR.

Do you have any good resources for those wave manifolds? I have seen
them before, but I have no idea how they are obtained or what
qualifies them for such a name.

My only understanding of waves comes from perturbation theory.


GR is quite complicated, and it is rather difficult to construct a VALID
sound bite.

Tom Roberts

"RLG" wrote in message
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"Rex" wrote in message
ps.com...

We know of the difficulty in probing planck scale, however there
is another way to to know which quantum gravity theory is
the right path for us. The theory must be able to explain
teleportation. So what kind of quantum gravity or quantum
spacetime theory is there available with enough degree of
freedom to describe teleportation of macroscopic objects
such as a chair? So far, I've seen one that has capability to
do it. It's this:

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0504062

What else?


Actually, string theory and M-theory are the best candidates for
unification
and they do not advocate the dubious and highly implausible idea that the
formulas of relativity need modification.

R



That would be tantamount to connecting Rumple Stiltskin to Gullivers Travels
using Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.

"Rex" wrote in message
ps.com...

We know of the difficulty in probing planck scale, however there
is another way to to know which quantum gravity theory is
the right path for us. The theory must be able to explain
teleportation. So what kind of quantum gravity or quantum
spacetime theory is there available with enough degree of
freedom to describe teleportation of macroscopic objects
such as a chair? So far, I've seen one that has capability to
do it. It's this:

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0504062

What else?


Actually, string theory and M-theory are the best candidates for unification
and they do not advocate the dubious and highly implausible idea that the
formulas of relativity need modification.

R

no one believes you any more.


"Dr. Planckenstein" wrote in message
. ..

"RLG" wrote in message
. ..

"Rex" wrote in message
ps.com...

We know of the difficulty in probing planck scale, however there
is another way to to know which quantum gravity theory is
the right path for us. The theory must be able to explain
teleportation. So what kind of quantum gravity or quantum
spacetime theory is there available with enough degree of
freedom to describe teleportation of macroscopic objects
such as a chair? So far, I've seen one that has capability to
do it. It's this:

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0504062

What else?


Actually, string theory and M-theory are the best candidates for
unification
and they do not advocate the dubious and highly implausible idea that the
formulas of relativity need modification.

R



That would be tantamount to connecting Rumple Stiltskin to Gullivers
Travels
using Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.

Androcles wrote:
[snip prolix crap]

Rabbi Albert Einstein
[snip rest of 61 lines of prolix crap]

The Androclitty doctrine: Protect confused angry ignorance against
achievement through technical incompetence exercising intellectual
irresponsibility.

Hey Androclitty, "Hab SoSlI' Quch!

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

"Uncle Al" wrote in message
...
: Androcles wrote:
: [snip prolix crap]
:
: Rabbi Albert Einstein
: [snip rest of 61 lines of prolix crap]
:
: The Androclitty doctrine: Protect confused angry ignorance against
: achievement through technical incompetence exercising intellectual
: irresponsibility.
:
: Hey Androclitty, "Hab SoSlI' Quch!
The Uncle Stooopid doctrine:
http://sound.westhost.com/counterfeit.jpg

--
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...rt/tAB=tBA.gif

'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B doesn't equal the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A in the stationary system, obviously.' --
Heretic Jan Bielawski, assistant light-bulb changer.

Ref: ups.com


"SR is GR with G=0." -- Uncle Stooopid.

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without
evidence." -- Uncle Stooopid.


"Counterfactual assumptions yield nonsense.
If such a thing were actually observed, reliably and reproducibly, then
relativity would immediately need a major overhaul if not a complete
replacement." -- Humpty Roberts.

Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would
have allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer
at the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

According to Phuckwit Duck it was geography and history that Einstein
failed on, as if Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule would give a
damn. That tells you the lengths these lying *******s will go to to
protect their tin god, but its always a laugh when they slip up.
Trolls, the lot of them.

"This is PHYSICS, not math or logic, and "proof" is completely
irrelevant." -- Humpty Roberts.

Apparently. But my jokes are still funny anyway.


no one believes you any more.


"Dr. Planckenstein" wrote in message
. ..

"RLG" wrote in message
. ..

"Rex" wrote in message
ps.com...

We know of the difficulty in probing planck scale, however there
is another way to to know which quantum gravity theory is
the right path for us. The theory must be able to explain
teleportation. So what kind of quantum gravity or quantum
spacetime theory is there available with enough degree of
freedom to describe teleportation of macroscopic objects
such as a chair? So far, I've seen one that has capability to
do it. It's this:

http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0504062

What else?


Actually, string theory and M-theory are the best candidates for
unification
and they do not advocate the dubious and highly implausible idea that
the
formulas of relativity need modification.

R



That would be tantamount to connecting Rumple Stiltskin to Gullivers
Travels
using Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.