Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.
And the Relativists repeat saying "but it cannot transfer information at that speed".
Deeper analysis of the comet shows that it was not a comet but an alien spaceship.
Relativists say "see, we always said time travel is possible, so what?!".
:-)

"qbit" wrote in message
...
Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.
And the Relativists repeat saying "but it cannot transfer information at
that speed".
Deeper analysis of the comet shows that it was not a comet but an alien
spaceship.
Relativists say "see, we always said time travel is possible, so what?!".
:-)


Within the domains of relativity and under certain general conditions,
nothing can go faster than light. However that doesn't mean that aliens
can't cheat and use GR and things like Warp Bubbles.

If it were me making this observation then I'd question how the measurements
were being made. There might be hints as to the manipulation of spacetime
being used and thus violating the assumption that only principles from SR
were being used. However I'm on a GR break so I can't answer this. I've
decided to take a sabbatical in my mind and go back to basics which means
restudying my texts on linear algebra from college and then mastering a few
texts I have on tensors. So I've put off my serious continuation of my
education in GR so as to beef up my foundation in the required mathematics.
You don't need this level of math to learn or understand GR but for the more
advanced stuff it appears neccesary.

Pete

On Aug 24, 12:50 am, "qbit" wrote:
Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.

It does? Publish your observations then! Earthshaking! Revolutionary!

And the Relativists repeat saying "but it cannot transfer information at that speed".
Deeper analysis of the comet shows that it was not a comet but an alien spaceship.

It does? Publish your analysis then! Earthshaking! Revolutionary!

Relativists say "see, we always said time travel is possible, so what?!".
:-)

qbit wrote:

Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.
[snip crap]

Idiot.

The nucleus of Comet Halley is approximately 16 x 8 x 8 kilometres.
The density of Halley's nucleus is about 0.1 gm/cm^3. The mass is
estimated to ~8x10^13 kg.

Given the kinetic energy of Comet Halley traveling at 2.5c given that
no aspect of Special and General Relativity is relevant if Lorentz
invariance and ds^2 are broken. Don't try Newton either, fool.

Idiot.

An observer looks at said 2.5c comet in visible light, 400-750 nm
wavelength. Green photons, 540 nm wavelength, bounce off the 2.5c
object. What Doppler-shifted wavelength returns to the observer? No
aspect of relativistic Doppler shift is allowed given that the
boundary conditions are broken.

nu(observed) = nu(source)sqrt[(1 + beta)/(1 - beta)]

is off limits to you, fool.

Idiot.

--
Uncle Al
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qbit wrote:
Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.

Counterfactual assumptions yield nonsense.

If such a thing were actually observed, reliably and reproducibly, then
relativity would immediately need a major overhaul if not a complete
replacement. But that won't happen UNTIL AND UNLESS such a thing is
observed -- that is how science works.


Tom Roberts

"Uncle Al" wrote in message
...

1) 'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Albert Einstein,
who in 1895 failed an examination that would have allowed
him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

2) ****head.

"Tom Roberts" wrote in message
t...
: qbit wrote:
: Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
: passes through our solar system.
:
: Counterfactual assumptions yield nonsense.

You are right, Tom.

--
'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Albert Einstein,
who in 1895 failed an examination that would have allowed
him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

qbit schrieb:
Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.
And the Relativists repeat saying "but it cannot transfer information at that speed".
Deeper analysis of the comet shows that it was not a comet but an alien spaceship.
Relativists say "see, we always said time travel is possible, so what?!".
:-)


Yawn. Your humour is not getting better.

Aloha,
Norbert

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 14:30:48 GMT, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Uncle Al" wrote in message
...

1) 'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Albert Einstein,
who in 1895 failed an examination that would have allowed
him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer at
the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

Androcles, you have not disproved Einstein,
and you just proved again that you are inable to do so.

Androcles:

2) ****head.




w.

qbit wrote in sci.physics.relativity:
Suddenly and unexpectedly a comet with a speed of 2.5c
passes through our solar system.

Impossible.

And the Relativists repeat saying "but it cannot transfer information at that speed".

Actually since the comet has mass, it's speed is limited to c.
Otherwise it would consume more energy than is in the universe.

Deeper analysis of the comet shows that it was not a comet but an alien spaceship.

Do you have proof of that? And why is this not posted in alt.ufo where
it belongs?

Relativists say "see, we always said time travel is possible, so what?!".

No. Relativists say "we don't know if time-travel is possible."

You should try to find out the facts before criticizing them.

--
// The TimeLord says:
// Pogo 2.0 = We have met the aliens, and they are us!