On Aug 17, 9:06 am, socratus wrote:
Another comment .
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Let me try:
We know that
E=hv
v=E/h
Now, h is a constant so it is directly proportional to energy E.
Let me further classify this equation.
We also know that E=0.5kT

No you don't. You're not allowed to use just any old equation
involving E that you have laying around. The equation you referenced
is for a statistical distribution of weakly interacting particles, not
for a single photon.

Putting it into the above equation v=(0.5kT)/h
Now, 0.5 and k are also constant.

So, we can say that frequency is
directly proportional to Temperature.

I don't know if my answer is right or not because my answer
has not been able to calculate the maximum frequency.

lakshya_micheal

On Aug 21, 3:52 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
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For Jeckyl .
To agree with you on 100%, please, tell me:
" Which geometrical form does photon have
moving with speed c=1?"
Thank you.
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AFAIKm as a point particle it doesn't have a shape.

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Physics with particle without shape,
with particle without geometrical form
is abstract science.

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On Aug 21, 3:52 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"socratus" wrote in message

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For Jeckyl .
To agree with you on 100%, please, tell me:
" Which geometrical form does photon have
moving with speed c=1?"
Thank you.
=============..

AFAIKm as a point particle it doesn't have a shape.

================================================
Physics with particle without shape,
with particle without geometrical form
is abstract science.

Its physics. Get used to it.

On Aug 22, 1:07 am, socratus wrote:
On Aug 21, 3:52 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:

"socratus" wrote in message

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For Jeckyl .
To agree with you on 100%, please, tell me:
" Which geometrical form does photon have
moving with speed c=1?"
Thank you.
=============..

AFAIKm as a point particle it doesn't have a shape.

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Physics with particle without shape,
with particle without geometrical form
is abstract science.

Nonsense. Shape is a feature of macroscopic, composite objects only.
You are used to that because your senses are sensitive only to
macroscopic, composite objects. However, there is no reason to
extrapolate that common experience to the universe as a whole.

PD

Jeckyl
If it is possible, I want to know your opinion
about this dialog.
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Fin666
If you spoke English a bit better your question might make more sense.
S
Excuse my wrong English.
Fin666
If its empty space by definition there are no particles.
S
Empty space has..... " virtual particles".
Fin666
If there is no gravity fields either, which i guess you could say is
truely empty, then the space would just be flat then its defined by
the metric for minkowski space which has the main diagonal as -1 1 1
1. But as that really doesn't describe
the presence of the singularity(= "single point").
S
If there is no gravity fields....the space would be flat...then this
space
is Minkowski space .... negative 4-D united space/time continuum.

Is the Minkowski space abstract continuum, as anybody says?
I think this space is real one.
I think this space is Vacuum.
Why?
1. Minkowski space has no gravity fields, but negative parameter.
2.Vacuum has negative parameter : T= - 273.
3.And this negative parameter united with space/ time , which
join together absolutely .
4.And the second SRT postulate says about moving
light quanta in Vacuum.

Fin666
For the geometry go look up the Schwarzschild metric
which describes all the physical and geometrical parameters
for the empty space(vacuum) around a star, black hole, sigularity
etc.
Its just a solution to Einstein's field equations for general
relativity as I said before.
S
It means ....the Schwarzschild metric ...the Einstein's general
relativity
they describes absolute another situation......
The presence of Mass changed situation.
Fin666
All this was worked out over 90 years ago in a ww1 trench no less!!!
Poor Schwarzschild died in the trench shortly after writting the paper
so for **** sake give the guy some credit!
S
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On Aug 21, 11:18 pm, "Jeckyl" wrote:
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On Aug 21, 3:52 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"socratus" wrote in message

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For Jeckyl .
To agree with you on 100%, please, tell me:
" Which geometrical form does photon have
moving with speed c=1?"
Thank you.
=============..

AFAIKm as a point particle it doesn't have a shape.

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Physics with particle without shape,
with particle without geometrical form
is abstract science.

Its physics. Get used to it.- Hide quoted text -

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Jeckyl
If it is possible, I want to know your opinion
about this dialog.

What about it?

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What is a maximum frequency limit for light quanta
in respect to its constant velocity: c=1?
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Sadovnik: My opinion.

maximum energy photon with the shortest
wavelength and highest frequency
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It means when photon moves with speed limit c=1.
the frequency is also limited f=1. And it happens because
the spin/impulse (h ) of photon is also equal to one h=1.
Then the energy oh this photon is also: E=1.
In this situation photon moves simply from point A to point B.
In such movement photon doesn't work, doesn't make
positive work. Why doesn't the photon make positive work?
Because photon moves as a wheel (with infinity density)
in a straight line. Photon doesn't create waves in such movement.
But it is impossible for photon to be always in such movement,
in such condition. Because we know what an important,
positive role photon plays in our planet, in our life.
So, it is possible to say that we know nothing about photon.
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Comment:

sadovnik,

You are correct that photons do not wave. If the electric and
magnetic field oscillated as is suggested in Maxwell's equations, then
we would get different values for these measurables depending on the
phase of the received photons. Instead only one energy value is
measured, the maximum value, never any value changing like a wave.

But we do know how potentials are allowed to change in quantum state
and this alone accounts for the actual behavior of light as we measure
it. It is by orthogonal folding in spin laddars or networks called
spinors or twistors. This action is how light moves as far as we know
from measurement. Any other notion gets the wrong answers.

/ Jim. /