Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?

Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?


Thanks,

Radium

On Aug 13, 11:17 pm, Radium wrote:
Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?

From a scientific point of view, you are free to add any consequences
imaginable to a completely imaginary scenario. The moment you cite a
"supernatural force" acting with "mysterious power" to do something
that is well outside the scope of natural law (such as free gluons not
attached to anything), then there are no scientifically reliable
consequences. It wouldn't matter if you concluded that time would
shear and bifurcate the universe into two simultaneous futures, or if
you concluded that the recombination energy of the free gluon
reassociating with any nearby quark would ignite the atmosphere.
Either are equally likely in a fantasy world.

Next assignment: Figure out what would happen, scientifically
speaking, if some supernatural power violated the 2nd law of
thermodynamics.


Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?

Thanks,

Radium

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Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?

Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?



Well, you'd better hope your supernatural force has whisked you to Mars, or
one of Saturn's moons and set you up with a cozy environment and many sexy
in-heat women, because form your vantage point, all you'd see is a very
bright flash as the Earth stopped existing as a planet housing 6 billion
humans and many billions more of various plant and animal species. Perhaps
you could ask your supernatural force why it would do such a silly thing?


Greysky

On Aug 14, 8:19 pm, PD wrote:
On Aug 13, 11:17 pm, Radium wrote:



Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?
From a scientific point of view, you are free to add any consequences

imaginable to a completely imaginary scenario. The moment you cite a
"supernatural force" acting with "mysterious power" to do something
that is well outside the scope of natural law (such as free gluons not
attached to anything), then there are no scientifically reliable
consequences. It wouldn't matter if you concluded that time would
shear and bifurcate the universe into two simultaneous futures, or if
you concluded that the recombination energy of the free gluon
reassociating with any nearby quark would ignite the atmosphere.
Either are equally likely in a fantasy world.

Next assignment: Figure out what would happen, scientifically
speaking, if some supernatural power violated the 2nd law of
thermodynamics.

.... as relativity?





Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?

Thanks,

Radium

You said "temporarily free".

It depends: What is the energy scale?

On Aug 29, 5:34 pm, "Autymn D. C." wrote:

You said "temporarily free".

Sorry I mean't free until the end of the story.

It depends: What is the energy scale?

I wish I knew

On Aug 31, 7:48 am, Radium wrote:
On Aug 29, 5:34 pm, "Autymn D. C." wrote:

You said "temporarily free".

Sorry I mean't free until the end of the story.

It depends: What is the energy scale?

I wish I knew

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yes realy
better you wish you would know !!
what is th e energy scale
and what is * break os symetry *!!!
and after all that
you pretend to teach people physics .

Y.Porat
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On Aug 14, 10:21 pm, "greysky" wrote:
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Hi:

Theoretical situation:

It is 12:00 AM on a dark moonless, cloudless night in the desert. I am
here in an area free of city lights and city sounds. It is extremely
dark but clear. Suddenly, some supernatural force attacks an area of
air molecules the size of a basketball. This mysterious power
stretches apart the gluons present in the neutrons of those air
molecules. The gluons are stretched to their breaking points. The
gluons are now temporarily free and not attached to quarks, other
gluons, or anything else. I am from a safe enough distance that I am
not injured but still close enough to perceive the benign effects.

From a scientific point of view, what should I expect to see, feel,
and hear as the gluons present in these air molecules' neutrons are
stretched free? What about after the gluons are freed?

Will the gluons try to attach to anything? If so, what would most
likely see, feel, and hear as a result of this?

Well, you'd better hope your supernatural force has whisked you to Mars, or
one of Saturn's moons and set you up with a cozy environment and many sexy
in-heat women, because form your vantage point, all you'd see is a very
bright flash as the Earth stopped existing as a planet housing 6 billion
humans and many billions more of various plant and animal species. Perhaps
you could ask your supernatural force why it would do such a silly thing?

Greysky- Hide quoted text -

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hey Greyskeycan you tell us
how 10 percent of mass is becoming 90 pecent??

can you tell os why are there only 3 quarks
why 4
why not 5 ??

3
can you tell us by your 'not supernatural' unsedstandings

how
**3 quarks* are making a sphere ??

TIA
Y.Porat
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On Sep 1, 1:33 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Aug 14, 10:21 pm, "greysky" wrote:
one of Saturn's moons and set you up with a cozy environment and many sexy
in-heat women, because form your vantage point, all you'd see is a very
bright flash as the Earth stopped existing as a planet housing 6 billion
humans and many billions more of various plant and animal species. Perhaps
you could ask your supernatural force why it would do such a silly thing?

hey Greyskeycan you tell us
how 10 percent of mass is becoming 90 pecent??

Hmm, a hadròn's empeiric formula is not lik its kemic formula? Why
can't you get one molecule of watter in a cup, why only none or many?

Did you also know there are 8 gluòns? (9 with the nouht-gluòn)

can you tell os why are there only 3 quarks
why 4
why not 5 ??

http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+New-Model
http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+angular-and-linear

3
can you tell us by your 'not supernatural' unsedstandings

how
**3 quarks* are making a sphere ??

Who said a hadròn was a sfair? I gave you news that the protòn could
be a ring or peanut. I also said that two quarks could trend about
one quark and trace out a ring of a ring, which is like a sfair.

-Aut

On Sep 2, 8:35 am, "Autymn D. C." wrote:
On Sep 1, 1:33 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Aug 14, 10:21 pm, "greysky" wrote:
one of Saturn's moons and set you up with a cozy environment and many sexy
in-heat women, because form your vantage point, all you'd see is a very
bright flash as the Earth stopped existing as a planet housing 6 billion
humans and many billions more of various plant and animal species. Perhaps
you could ask your supernatural force why it would do such a silly thing?
hey Greyskeycan you tell us
how 10 percent of mass is becoming 90 pecent??

Hmm, a hadròn's empeiric formula is not lik its kemic formula? Why
can't you get one molecule of watter in a cup, why only none or many?

Did you also know there are 8 gluòns? (9 with the nouht-gluòn)

can you tell os why are there only 3 quarks
why 4
why not 5 ??

http://google.com/groups?q=Autymn+Ne...lar-and-linear

3
can you tell us by your 'not supernatural' unsedstandings

how
**3 quarks* are making a sphere ??

Who said a hadròn was a sfair? I gave you news that the protòn could
be a ring or peanut. I also said that two quarks could trend about
one quark and trace out a ring of a ring, which is like a sfair.

-Aut

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sorry i ddint get you!

there migh tbe evn 6 quarks
but not in one hadron!

2
if you whant to be clear in geometry
you have to be less verbal and more geometry using

3
do you know tha t there are 'physicsits'
that claime that you can never know the geometry
of the hadron 'becauase of the HUP' ???
(that is their claime not mine (:-)

4
even if i will be killed
(and burned on the stake in the market place (:-))
i will not accept the (crooked stupid ) notion of :

10 percent of masss becoming 100 percent of
(REST ) mass
of the hadron ....
and i hope you and others alread know that

THERE IS ONLY ONE KIND OF MASS ----
INVARIANT MASS !!!.

ATB
Y.Porat
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