"Tom Roberts" wrote
qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1 [...]

You assumed that Newtonian gravitation (NG) holds EXACTLY in a situation
for which it has never been tested. Not even close.

Hey, the whole universe is working after the same Newton principle.
For more than 13 billion years now! This is proof enough.

Moreover, our best theory of gravity, General Relativity,
predicts that NG does not come close to being valid
in the situation you describe.

LOL! I'm saying and proving that RT is buggy!!! Not only me,
but also many many many other people around the world say the same!
You can not ignore this fact any longer! Some decisions must be
undertaken, and RT must be banned from the schools and universities
because it has been proven that RT is a false and fraudelent theory
based on tricks and lies.

Your "proof" is no such thing, and is worthless.

Why? Because you said so? :-)
Arguments please! Hard facts please!

If you are interested in learning how modern physics addresses such

Just let us know how the so called "modern physics" solves this problem.
Which another postulate will be added to RT to adress this situation? :-)
It cannot solve it anyway differently. It is a classical, million-times tested
Free-Fall Experiment; everbody can do the easy math him/herself
and will come to the same conclusion like in my demonstration!

qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1

Einstein's Relativity Theory (RT) states that nothing can move
faster than the speed of light (ie. c = 299,792,458 m/s^2).

Lorentz invariance demands that massed bodies and information
propagation (i.e., casuality) cannot be viewed by inertical observers
as propagating at speeds exceding an arbitrary finite limit -
lightspeed, defining the null geodesic.

Everything in RT is limited to this upper speed limit, and termed
as "relativistic addition" etc. The Lorentz-Factor (also called gamma)
does that limiting to c. For example when adding velocities together
the sum never can become = c.
RT relies solely on this fact and is highly dependent on this.

Annalen der Physik 4 XVII 891-921 (1905)

Why don't your read it instead of pulling it out of your ass?

Below I will prove that this speed limit of RT cannot hold
for every object. It might be true for light (photons) itself,
and some other atomic particles, but this upper speed limit
cannot be valid for everything in the universe, especially not
for macroscopic objects like spaceships or celestial bodies like comets.
[snip crap]

Stooopid is boundless. Hey stooopid - spaceships and comets are
composed of atomic particles. At what packing density does a
spaceship or comet become independent atomic particles? Idiot.

Now comes the surprise: the final velocity of the object will be
v = sqrt(2*g*h) = 599E6 m/s
And guess what this is: this is about twice the speed of light!!! :-)))
[snip rest of crap]

a = GM/r^2. If "r" is changing you must integrate dr. If a body
possess an observed velocity exceeding ~20% of lightspeed, it requires
relativistic correction re EO Lawrence and his cyclotrons.

beta = sqrt[1 - (v^2/c^2)]
beta = sqrt[0.96)
beta = 0.98, already off by 2%.

Newton was wrong.
Large color TV CRTS are relativistically corrected.
PSR J0737-3039A/B
Idiot.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1

Einstein's Relativity Theory (RT) states that nothing can move
faster than the speed of light (ie. c = 299,792,458 m/s^2).

Lorentz invariance demands that massed bodies and information
propagation (i.e., casuality) cannot be viewed by inertical observers
as propagating at speeds exceding an arbitrary finite limit -
lightspeed, defining the null geodesic.

Everything in RT is limited to this upper speed limit, and termed
as "relativistic addition" etc. The Lorentz-Factor (also called gamma)
does that limiting to c. For example when adding velocities together
the sum never can become = c.
RT relies solely on this fact and is highly dependent on this.

Annalen der Physik 4 XVII 891-921 (1905)

Why don't your read it instead of pulling it out of your ass?

Below I will prove that this speed limit of RT cannot hold
for every object. It might be true for light (photons) itself,
and some other atomic particles, but this upper speed limit
cannot be valid for everything in the universe, especially not
for macroscopic objects like spaceships or celestial bodies like comets.
[snip crap]

Stooopid is boundless. Hey stooopid - spaceships and comets are
composed of atomic particles. At what packing density does a
spaceship or comet become independent atomic particles? Idiot.

Now comes the surprise: the final velocity of the object will be
v = sqrt(2*g*h) = 599E6 m/s
And guess what this is: this is about twice the speed of light!!! :-)))
[snip rest of crap]

a = GM/r^2. If "r" is changing you must integrate dr. If a body
possess an observed velocity exceeding ~20% of lightspeed, it requires
relativistic correction re EO Lawrence and his cyclotrons.

beta = sqrt[1 - (v^2/c^2)]
beta = sqrt[0.96)
beta = 0.98, already off by 2%.

Newton was wrong.
Large color TV CRTS are relativistically corrected.
PSR J0737-3039A/B
Idiot.

--
Uncle Al
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/
(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/lajos.htm#a2

"THE_ONE" wrote
On Aug 8, 8:13 pm, "qbit" wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1

Einstein's Relativity Theory (RT) states that nothing can move
faster than the speed of light (ie. c = 299,792,458 m/s^2).

The typo of the unit was corrected in later posting, ie. m/s of course.

"THE_ONE" wrote
On Aug 8, 8:13 pm, "qbit" wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1

Einstein's Relativity Theory (RT) states that nothing can move
faster than the speed of light (ie. c = 299,792,458 m/s^2).

The typo of the unit was corrected in later posting, ie. m/s of course.

"qbit" wrote in message
...
"Tom Roberts" wrote
qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1
[...]

You assumed that Newtonian gravitation (NG) holds EXACTLY in a situation
for which it has never been tested. Not even close.

Hey, the whole universe is working after the same Newton principle.
For more than 13 billion years now! This is proof enough.

Funny .. I thought we realised many many years ago that it does NOT work
after Newton principles. They just didn't properly explain what we began to
find experimentally.

Moreover, our best theory of gravity, General Relativity,
predicts that NG does not come close to being valid
in the situation you describe.

LOL! I'm saying and proving that RT is buggy!!!

No .. you've done no such thing .. you've simply shown that if you try to
use old classical Newtonian physics you get different results to what modern
physics predicts.

That is not a proof that one is wrong and the other right, only that they
are different.

NOW what you have to do is build yourself a spaceship, travel to the
appropriate star and perform the experiment to see which one is right.

See you when you get back.

"qbit" wrote in message
...
"Tom Roberts" wrote
qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1
[...]

You assumed that Newtonian gravitation (NG) holds EXACTLY in a situation
for which it has never been tested. Not even close.

Hey, the whole universe is working after the same Newton principle.
For more than 13 billion years now! This is proof enough.

Funny .. I thought we realised many many years ago that it does NOT work
after Newton principles. They just didn't properly explain what we began to
find experimentally.

Moreover, our best theory of gravity, General Relativity,
predicts that NG does not come close to being valid
in the situation you describe.

LOL! I'm saying and proving that RT is buggy!!!

No .. you've done no such thing .. you've simply shown that if you try to
use old classical Newtonian physics you get different results to what modern
physics predicts.

That is not a proof that one is wrong and the other right, only that they
are different.

NOW what you have to do is build yourself a spaceship, travel to the
appropriate star and perform the experiment to see which one is right.

See you when you get back.

"Uncle Al" wrote in message ...
qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1

Einstein's Relativity Theory (RT) states that nothing can move
faster than the speed of light (ie. c = 299,792,458 m/s^2).

Lorentz invariance demands that massed bodies and information
propagation (i.e., casuality) cannot be viewed by inertical observers
as propagating at speeds exceding an arbitrary finite limit -
lightspeed, defining the null geodesic.

The usual nothing saying RT bla bla bla.
Keep it for yourself; it does not convince anybody.

Everything in RT is limited to this upper speed limit, and termed
as "relativistic addition" etc. The Lorentz-Factor (also called gamma)
does that limiting to c. For example when adding velocities together
the sum never can become = c.
RT relies solely on this fact and is highly dependent on this.

Annalen der Physik 4 XVII 891-921 (1905)

Why don't your read it instead of pulling it out of your ass?

I have read all his sh*t lies. And finally came to the conclusion
that he was just a liar playing wordgames and selling illusions.

Below I will prove that this speed limit of RT cannot hold
for every object. It might be true for light (photons) itself,
and some other atomic particles, but this upper speed limit
cannot be valid for everything in the universe, especially not
for macroscopic objects like spaceships or celestial bodies like comets.
[snip crap]

Stooopid is boundless. Hey stooopid - spaceships and comets are
composed of atomic particles. At what packing density does a
spaceship or comet become independent atomic particles? Idiot.

Now comes the surprise: the final velocity of the object will be
v = sqrt(2*g*h) = 599E6 m/s
And guess what this is: this is about twice the speed of light!!! :-)))
[snip rest of crap]

a = GM/r^2. If "r" is changing you must integrate dr. If a body
possess an observed velocity exceeding ~20% of lightspeed, it requires
relativistic correction re EO Lawrence and his cyclotrons.

LOL! Tell us more BS! :-)

beta = sqrt[1 - (v^2/c^2)]
beta = sqrt[0.96)
beta = 0.98, already off by 2%.

Newton was wrong.

Newton was correct! Einstein and his criminal cult are liars
who badmouth the biggest scientist the world ever had, Newton!

Large color TV CRTS are relativistically corrected.

LOL! You must be relativistically corrected too! :-)))

PSR J0737-3039A/B
Idiot.

The idiot is yourself!

"Uncle Al" wrote in message ...
qbit wrote:

Debunked by Proof: Einstein's Relativity Theory Is Wrong! - PROOF #1

Einstein's Relativity Theory (RT) states that nothing can move
faster than the speed of light (ie. c = 299,792,458 m/s^2).

Lorentz invariance demands that massed bodies and information
propagation (i.e., casuality) cannot be viewed by inertical observers
as propagating at speeds exceding an arbitrary finite limit -
lightspeed, defining the null geodesic.

The usual nothing saying RT bla bla bla.
Keep it for yourself; it does not convince anybody.

Everything in RT is limited to this upper speed limit, and termed
as "relativistic addition" etc. The Lorentz-Factor (also called gamma)
does that limiting to c. For example when adding velocities together
the sum never can become = c.
RT relies solely on this fact and is highly dependent on this.

Annalen der Physik 4 XVII 891-921 (1905)

Why don't your read it instead of pulling it out of your ass?

I have read all his sh*t lies. And finally came to the conclusion
that he was just a liar playing wordgames and selling illusions.

Below I will prove that this speed limit of RT cannot hold
for every object. It might be true for light (photons) itself,
and some other atomic particles, but this upper speed limit
cannot be valid for everything in the universe, especially not
for macroscopic objects like spaceships or celestial bodies like comets.
[snip crap]

Stooopid is boundless. Hey stooopid - spaceships and comets are
composed of atomic particles. At what packing density does a
spaceship or comet become independent atomic particles? Idiot.

Now comes the surprise: the final velocity of the object will be
v = sqrt(2*g*h) = 599E6 m/s
And guess what this is: this is about twice the speed of light!!! :-)))
[snip rest of crap]

a = GM/r^2. If "r" is changing you must integrate dr. If a body
possess an observed velocity exceeding ~20% of lightspeed, it requires
relativistic correction re EO Lawrence and his cyclotrons.

LOL! Tell us more BS! :-)

beta = sqrt[1 - (v^2/c^2)]
beta = sqrt[0.96)
beta = 0.98, already off by 2%.

Newton was wrong.

Newton was correct! Einstein and his criminal cult are liars
who badmouth the biggest scientist the world ever had, Newton!

Large color TV CRTS are relativistically corrected.

LOL! You must be relativistically corrected too! :-)))

PSR J0737-3039A/B
Idiot.

The idiot is yourself!

"qbit" wrote in message
...
Newton was correct! Einstein and his criminal cult are liars

You're a troll.

who badmouth the biggest scientist the world ever had, Newton!

Yes .. Newton was indeed a great scientist. Maybe even the greatest
(relativistically corrected) .. but that doesn't mean he was correct about
everything.

You see, even though Newton's contributions to science were extraordinary,
but science has advanced somewhat since Newton's time.

Dwelling in the past and worshipping former heros of science (not matter how
great) at the expense of moving forward is not the way of science. Newton
would be appalled by your ignorance and disregard for science.

The idiot is yourself!

I think you've soundly proved that it is you. You're not fooling anyone.