On 28 Jul, 03:51, "George Hammond" wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

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But, George, suppose we are all just occupying work stations, get
disconnected when we die, etc. What then?
-
'foolsrushin.'

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:50:02 -0700, "'foolsrushin.'"
wrote:

On 28 Jul, 03:51, "George Hammond" wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

But, George, suppose we are all just occupying work stations, get
disconnected when we die, etc. What then?
-
'foolsrushin.'

[Hammond]
The point of having an "afterlife" is NOT to live life
over again... you don't need to die to do that... going to
sleep and having a "lucid dream" will accomplish that easily
enough.
The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.
Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".
========================================
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
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GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

On 28 Jul, 07:13, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:50:02 -0700, "'foolsrushin.'"
wrote:
On 28 Jul, 03:51, "George Hammond" wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

But, George, suppose we are all just occupying work stations, get
disconnected when we die, etc. What then?
-
'foolsrushin.'

[Hammond]
The point of having an "afterlife" is NOT to live life
over again... you don't need to die to do that... going to
sleep and having a "lucid dream" will accomplish that easily
enough.
The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.
Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".
========================================
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================- Hide quoted text -

George, when you're dead, you're dead! Edison tried to make a sort of
telephone to the dead, and I think we heard Mabel or someone piping
up, 'Come into the Garden, Maude', on those old scratchy cylinders,
you know the wax ones!'. Neither Mabel nor Maude has been heard from
since, though does it matter if they are one and the same?
Ontologically, George, Mabel and Maude are scratchy reminiscenes of
what they once were. And that's it: they are gone, man, solid gone!
What the hell is a 'a zero growth deficit person', ****wit! You can
surely do better than that stumbledumb, Gordon Brown!? It is a good
joke, so I held off, but nobody is getting it, so it is time to
laugh--
--
'foolsrushin.'

On Jul 28, 8:13 am, George Hammond wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:50:02 -0700, "'foolsrushin.'"



wrote:
On 28 Jul, 03:51, "George Hammond" wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

But, George, suppose we are all just occupying work stations, get
disconnected when we die, etc. What then?
-
'foolsrushin.'

[Hammond]
The point of having an "afterlife" is NOT to live life
over again... you don't need to die to do that... going to
sleep and having a "lucid dream" will accomplish that easily
enough.
The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.
Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

why tha fok are you using dots in stead of commas

On Jul 28, 2:29 am, "'foolsrushin.'" wrote:
On 28 Jul, 07:13, George Hammond wrote:



On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:50:02 -0700, "'foolsrushin.'"
wrote:
On 28 Jul, 03:51, "George Hammond" wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

But, George, suppose we are all just occupying work stations, get
disconnected when we die, etc. What then?
-
'foolsrushin.'

[Hammond]
The point of having an "afterlife" is NOT to live life
over again... you don't need to die to do that... going to
sleep and having a "lucid dream" will accomplish that easily
enough.
The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.
Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".
========================================
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http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================- Hide quoted text -

George, when you're dead, you're dead!


Damn, all that CPR training down the tubes.

Now go back and rewrite that gibberish you wrote afterwards-I stopped
trying to understand gibberish when I decided to stop taking **** from
nameless entities like you.
Arguing with HAMMOND doesn't make you look smart, either.

On 28 Jul, 09:06, 77ogrA wrote:
On Jul 28, 2:29 am, "'foolsrushin.'" wrote:





On 28 Jul, 07:13, George Hammond wrote:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 21:50:02 -0700, "'foolsrushin.'"
wrote:
On 28 Jul, 03:51, "George Hammond" wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

But, George, suppose we are all just occupying work stations, get
disconnected when we die, etc. What then?
-
'foolsrushin.'

[Hammond]
The point of having an "afterlife" is NOT to live life
over again... you don't need to die to do that... going to
sleep and having a "lucid dream" will accomplish that easily
enough.
The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.
Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".
========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================- Hide quoted text -

George, when you're dead, you're dead!

Damn, all that CPR training down the tubes.

Now go back and rewrite that gibberish you wrote afterwards-I stopped
trying to understand gibberish when I decided to stop taking **** from
nameless entities like you.
Arguing with HAMMOND doesn't make you look smart, either.

Yeah, but it goes, erm, nowhere. I don't want to look smart, but it is
going nowhere fast! It has been going nowhere fast for about 3 years!

Crooks up to no good in cave paintings? Zook, who understands the need
to understand by representing the world in pictures. Just suppose,
across the ancient world in caves here and there, almost the same
images had been drawn by tribes unconnected by land and or water?
Supposing, like Huxley, you consumed a magic mushroom, were inspired
to paint your visions. Suppose, now, that from the oldest to the
earliest, the nearest to the farthest, cave paintings were almost
thematically identical. You might be driven to wonder why!

Think about it, guy! IQ ought to be a product rather than a sum!
--
'foolsrushin.'

"George Hammond"

The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.

This does sound worrysome. If you were a relative of mine, I'd wonder if
they could come without staight jackets. But perheps I simply do not
understand you.

What do you mean woth the "true reality" ?

Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".

And, I wonder. How would you define "you"?

Christine!

"'foolsrushin.'"

Suppose, now, that from the oldest to the
earliest, the nearest to the farthest, cave paintings were almost
thematically identical. You might be driven to wonder why!

It could be they were created by beings that were rather similar? And at the
time they could hardly make drawings of the Eiffel tower, for instance...

Just a thought!

Christine!

On 28 Jul, 10:30, "CRxx" wrote:
"George Hammond"

The POINT IS that the "afterlife" unlike a lucid dream
is NOT generated by the neuronal brain, it's generated by
the microtubule brain. THIS allows it to compute what the
world would look like if you had a zero growth deficit (saw
the world with zero curvature) which is "true reality" and
has no time dilation or space magnification which is what
makes life a veil of tears, a nightmare of suffering and
evil to begin with.

This does sound worrysome. If you were a relative of mine, I'd wonder if
they could come without staight jackets. But perheps I simply do not
understand you.

Yeah, I couldn't put up with it any longer: we never got a bite. 'Two
frauds talking at each other.' Michael Grey. Funny!

What do you mean woth the "true reality" ?

Flat subjective spacetime (Guv=0) is by DEFINITION a
physical condition of "ETERNAL LIFE", which is the ENTIRE
POINT of having an afterlife. A lucid dream does NOT
provide you with Eternal Life. In the Afterlife dream you
obtain flat spacetime vision (called by the theologians the
"Beatific vision"). It doesn't matter if you get hit by a
truck and die.... if you die in a condition of eternal life
you don't lose anything because you are in possesion of
"100% life" (which we aren't) and it is simply irrelevant
when, where or how you die. A zero growth deficit person is
"deathproof".
And, I wonder. How would you define "you"?
Christine!

Nice looney things are about the place. Here's one nice loony thing.
A neighbour gave me an old radio, 7 valves (tubes, you), sweet-looking
thing, was in a chest in her loft. It has a sort of sunrise front, and
a
gorgeous dial, plus switches, from maybe 10m up. It is, I think
1930's,
but almost like new! It makes the prop want to write a play or a
sketch!
--
'foolsrushin.'

On 28 Jul, 10:43, "CRxx" wrote:
"'foolsrushin.'"
Suppose, now, that from the oldest to the
earliest, the nearest to the farthest, cave paintings were almost
thematically identical. You might be driven to wonder why!
It could be they were created by beings that were rather similar? And at the
time they could hardly make drawings of the Eiffel tower, for instance...
Just a thought!
Christine!

More likely they got the Eiffel tower from somewhere else! Sorry, that
is a bit extreme! Nevertheless,have a look at http://
rickstrassman.com/. Again, http://www.grahamhancock.com/. Even
before you go to either, though, let me make one thing clear. Whilst I
beleive that Hancock and Strassman are onto something like an Eiffel
tower arrived at by lots of guys who never saw Paris, or at least
nothing they could have seen in the 'real' world, the crux of the
matter is that entoptic phenomena, for example, seem to be universal
yet with diverse commonalities that cannot be simply or easily
assimilated to local conditions or 'real' experiences. I have belonged
to two special interest groups, one on theory of knowledge, and the
other on the history of anti-science, the only way I can put our
concerns conveniently. I think, therefore, that I am not, shall we
say, likely to conflate a picture of a bison with the creature itself
or given only one bison, assume additional ones, though either might
appear reasonable to an untutored mind. What Hancock and Strassman
have to say is that, perhaps, 60,000 years ago, human beings became
symbol users, with all that entails, and that this, as they would have
it, happened almost overnight. They hypothesise that the consumption
of certain psychtropic substances may have opened the doors to
perception, as it were, and support their claims by means of the
virtually universal occurrence of, say, cave paintings whose theme,
content and character are of such a nature that they can in no way be
ascribed entirely to local experience or transmission of their content
between or across cultures. It is for you to decide whether they have
a claim on your attention. Personally, I find that they make out a
strong and fascinating case!
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'foolsrushin'.