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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian,alt.sci.relativistic-proof-of-god.moderated
George Hammond
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Default OPEN LETTER TO FRANK TIPLER

TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_


Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
..... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================

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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian
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Default OPEN LETTER TO FRANK TIPLER

George Hammond wrote:

TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian
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"Uncle Al" wrote in message
...

snip crap

Get the outta here ("Uncle") Alan Schwarz, and stay outta here!


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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian
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Default OPEN LETTER TO FRANK TIPLER

On Jul 28, 1:44 am, George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================


finally you heard somthin abou micritubule,
until now you said that if your head would
explode then tha life after life would been
very short but max curvature

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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian
TMG
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Default OPEN LETTER TO FRANK TIPLER

George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_


Yippie!! George has wriggled free of the restraints!

This round of treatment seems to have fogged what's left of George's
memory. He seems to have forgotten all of the mean, vile, things he's
written about Tipler over the years.

Such as:

*******
[Hammond]
Aw comon..... if you really like kooks,
TIPLER simply can't be beat... the guy's even a full professor
(of physics I believe) at an accredited university in Louisiana.
Tipler and Sollog are pure Star-Trekers..... "all make believe
and no evidence", and even their theories are ridiculous...
"God is an infinite celestial computer in outer space" horse****.
I wonder who they think Micheangelo painted on the Sistine
Chapel Ceiling?
If anybody has read that book by Sellog (or Tipler), give us
a rundown.. it's fun to watch liars when they run out of ideas.

*******

Good to see the old kook has given his keepers the slip - no matter how
short lived it will be.
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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian,alt.religion.kibology
George Hammond
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 10:47:58 -0400, TMG
wrote:

George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_


Yippie!! George has wriggled free of the restraints!

This round of treatment seems to have fogged what's left of George's
memory. He seems to have forgotten all of the mean, vile, things he's
written about Tipler over the years.

Such as:

*******
[Hammond]
Aw comon..... if you really like kooks,
TIPLER simply can't be beat... the guy's even a full professor
(of physics I believe) at an accredited university in Louisiana.
Tipler and Sollog are pure Star-Trekers..... "all make believe
and no evidence", and even their theories are ridiculous...
"God is an infinite celestial computer in outer space" horse****.
I wonder who they think Micheangelo painted on the Sistine
Chapel Ceiling?
If anybody has read that book by Sellog (or Tipler), give us
a rundown.. it's fun to watch liars when they run out of ideas.

*******

Good to see the old kook has given his keepers the slip - no matter how
short lived it will be.


[Hammond]
What I say to a dufus stalker like you and what I say to
Tipler by email are two different things. Remember, you're
a low grade psychotic stalker, he's a respectable college
professor. Btw, hasn't the security clearance officer at
WHOI gotten you fired yet for your nite job activities as an
internet staker, dufus?
=====================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================
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Old July 28th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian
Immortalist
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Default OPEN LETTER TO FRANK TIPLER

On Jul 27, 4:44 pm, George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.


Cognitive science can show good evidence for the theory that the
brain's activies are enough or sufficient to create all of human
experience, even a so called soul or other epiphenomena. If there is a
God and it created us, it could either have done so with a dualistic
soul or a soul that is merely the result of the activities of "a"
brain or some such "similar device." Are you saying that you have some
evidence that makes it more probable that If God then Not identity
with activities and strongly supporting your dualism?

[Clear answer here]

....

[Name calling ad hominums here]

....

Identity Theory of Mind) is a theory, in philosophy of mind, which
asserts that mental events are type-identical to the physical events
in the brain with which they are correlated. The thesis of type
physicalism is that mental event types (for example, pains) are
identical, perhaps contingently, with specific physical event types in
the brain (for example, C-fiber firings).

It is called type identity in order to distinguish it from a similar
but distinct theory called the token identity theory. The type-token
distinction is easily illustrated by way of example. In the phrase
"yellow is yellow is yellow is yellow", there are only two types of
words ("yellow" and "is") but there are seven tokens (four "yellow"
and three "is" tokens).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_theory

But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?

With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================



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Old August 5th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian
zzbunker@netscape.net
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Default OPEN LETTER TO FRANK TIPLER

On Jul 27, 7:44 pm, George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?


Probably not. Since what Tipler obviously missed about computers
is their ability to be embedded in adaptive robotic laser systems.
not their ability to resurrect anything.




With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================



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Old August 5th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.philosophy,alt.religion.christian,sci.logic
George Hammond
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:09:13 -0700, "
wrote:

On Jul 27, 7:44 pm, George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans

FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA

SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_

Dear Frank:

Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?


Probably not. Since what Tipler obviously missed about computers
is their ability to be embedded in adaptive robotic laser systems.
not their ability to resurrect anything.



[Hammond]
Jibu in a now famous series of papers points out that the
microtubules are very likely "water lazers" and (hollow)
waveguides for infrared laser action. Sir Roger Penrose
even was overheard at a recent symposium saying that "the
hollow microtubules are just the right diameter for a
massless exchange boson to travel right down the middle like
a rifle bullet".
"Robotics" is an interesting subject for pedestrian
minds, however, Theology and the Resurrection of the dead is
a fit subject for more serious minds, which is what we are
discussing here.
In fact, TIPLER being a prof. of Math-Physics and
computer science, has SHOWN that a computer can
"theoretically emulate a person" and therefore, "Resurrect"
him after death.... a historical accomplishment on his part!

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================




With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,

George Hammond, M.S. Physics

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================


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On Aug 5, 1:51 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:09:13 -0700, "





wrote:
On Jul 27, 7:44 pm, George Hammond wrote:
TO:
Professor Frank Tipler
Tulane University
Math Department
New Orleans


FROM:
George Hammond M.S. Physics
Cape Cod MA


SUBJECT:
Your 1994 book:
_The Physics of Immortality_


Dear Frank:


Your 1994 book establishes that a human being could
be "emulated" on a big enough computer and that
this would constitute a "Resurrection" of the body
.... e.g. the computer emulation would be the resurrected
"spiritual body" described by St. Paul in
I Cor 15:35-58.
But in your (1994) book you cite brain speed as 10^15
bits/sec. Since then Penrose-Hameroff have raised that
figure to 10^30 bits/sec because of the discovery of the
processing speed of the vast MICROTUBULE system inside the
neurons.
In view of the fact that the microtubule system remains
viable for at least 30 minutes after death, isn't it more
reasonable that the brain simply "downloads" a lifetime
precomputed "emulation" of the person from the microtubule
system and that this is in fact "Life After Death" so
called..... hence your theory is CORRECT... but in fact we
don't need to construct the mammoth galactic sized computer
you propose because it turns out the brain already possesses
a mammoth enough computer to do the trick in the
microtublule system.
Your "computer emulation" theory is BRILLIANT... but
isn't it time you brought the theory down to earth in view
of the 15 orders of magnitude of newly discovered computing
power in the brain which actually makes a "computer
Resurrection" in the brain a scientific explanation of St.
Paul's "spiritual resurection" much closer to hand rather
than having to build a "Hal" sized computer to do it as you
propose?


Probably not. Since what Tipler obviously missed about computers
is their ability to be embedded in adaptive robotic laser systems.
not their ability to resurrect anything.


[Hammond]
Jibu in a now famous series of papers points out that the
microtubules are very likely "water lazers" and (hollow)
waveguides for infrared laser action. Sir Roger Penrose
even was overheard at a recent symposium saying that "the
hollow microtubules are just the right diameter for a
massless exchange boson to travel right down the middle like
a rifle bullet".
"Robotics" is an interesting subject for pedestrian
minds, however, Theology and the Resurrection of the dead is
a fit subject for more serious minds, which is what we are
discussing here.


That's true, since Penrose is one of those
strange enough to believe that strangeness is actually
a property of matter, rather than it is,
a very, very pedestrian property of group theory.



In fact, TIPLER being a prof. of Math-Physics and
computer science, has SHOWN that a computer can
"theoretically emulate a person" and therefore, "Resurrect"
him after death.... a historical accomplishment on his part!

========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
========================================





With the greatest admiration for your historic publication,


George Hammond, M.S. Physics


========================================
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE
http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god
mirror site:
http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com
GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3)
http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3
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