On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Benj wrote:
Androcles wrote:
I don't need to watch any movie, I was alive and sentient in 1969.
Since then I've watched shuttles launch from Cape Canaveral. Live.
Any idiot that hallucinates a launch is not for real has to be a complete
and total ****head. Scepticism is healthy, blind stupidity is sick.
But then, that's just what you are. Sick.

"Androcles" calling someone else "sick" THAT is a good one!!!

I presume I'm speaking to a government spokesman here, right?

Again, you are wrong.


That's the way I am too. When I hear about a new idea I never go read
the original paper.

How many "original papers" have you EVER read?

I'm PROUD that I never read it! I simply point out
that the idea is clearly ridiculous and the author must be totally
stupid, insane and a complete "****head".

Ideas which are in conflict with experiment are "clearly ridiculous".

Usually that is all the
"proof" anyone needs that the new idea should be rejected. Debate?
Discussion? We doan need no stinkin' scientific debate!

You can discuss it all you want - no one is stopping you. "Discussion"
doesn't make a wrong idea corrrect.


You know, Androcles, I love recess as much as anybody, but you really
are a poopy-face!
In other words, you DID notice that these are newsgroups given to
scientific discussions and not grade school play periods. Right?

"Scientific discussions" are best undertaken by scientists, or at
least people who know something about science. One can sit with 4 year
olds, and ask them about the "nature of the chemical bond", and they
will certainly be wrong, no matter how earnest and cute they seem.

It is not a coincidence that the greater one's scientific education,
the more absurd this drivel about "hoaxes" seems.

On 5 jul, 03:38, wrote:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.
**********************************************
Again with your hokus-pokus conspiracy theories?¡?¡
Dude, you´re turning stupidity into an an art....
Tonio

On Jul 5, 1:07 pm, Benj wrote:
Androcles wrote:
I don't need to watch any movie, I was alive and sentient in 1969.
Since then I've watched shuttles launch from Cape Canaveral. Live.
Any idiot that hallucinates a launch is not for real has to be a complete
and total ****head. Scepticism is healthy, blind stupidity is sick.
But then, that's just what you are. Sick.

"Androcles" calling someone else "sick" THAT is a good one!!!

I presume I'm speaking to a government spokesman here, right?

Again, you are wrong.


That's the way I am too. When I hear about a new idea I never go read
the original paper.

How many "original papers" have you EVER read?

I'm PROUD that I never read it! I simply point out
that the idea is clearly ridiculous and the author must be totally
stupid, insane and a complete "****head".

Ideas which are in conflict with experiment are "clearly ridiculous".

Usually that is all the
"proof" anyone needs that the new idea should be rejected. Debate?
Discussion? We doan need no stinkin' scientific debate!

You can discuss it all you want - no one is stopping you. "Discussion"
doesn't make a wrong idea corrrect.


You know, Androcles, I love recess as much as anybody, but you really
are a poopy-face!
In other words, you DID notice that these are newsgroups given to
scientific discussions and not grade school play periods. Right?

"Scientific discussions" are best undertaken by scientists, or at
least people who know something about science. One can sit with 4 year
olds, and ask them about the "nature of the chemical bond", and they
will certainly be wrong, no matter how earnest and cute they may seem.

It is not a coincidence that the greater one's scientific education,
the more absurd this drivel about "hoaxes" seems.

On Jul 4, 8:38 pm, wrote:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

The idea that man (or woman) has actually walked on this planet
(Earth) is a hoax perpertrated by NASA to perpetuate funding. America
was never disovered by Columbus - it was a hoax by the Spanish. The
"fact" that the earth revolves around the sun was a hoax perpetrated
by Copernicus, so he could perpetuate his funding and fool the saps.

hanson wrote:

[...]

[hanson]
IIRC from the many times this issue was discussed here,
the suspicion and consequent conspiracy theories did
root in the original BAD quality of pixs from the moon. NASA
then went into their sandboxes out in Barstow and REfilmed
the scenes to impress the TV audience with a better show.
Unfortunately NASA did not acknowledge right away that
the TV news pix were reenacted and enhanced...

You mean they acknowledged this? Do you have a link?

I did see another google video program who's name escapes
me where they claimed not that Apollo was hoaxed, but that
the moon pictures were. Apparently with no radiation
shielding or insulation the film all came back fogged
or something.

Oh yes, they say that the pictures were filmed at Stanly
Kubrik's studio in the UK. Ah yes, it was called _Dark
Side of the Moon_, no pink floyd included. It does not seem
to be on google video any more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Si...n_(documentary)

Dark Side of the Moon (documentary)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dark Side of the Moon is a French documentary by director William Karel which
originally aired on Arte in 2002 with the title Opération Lune. The basic
premise for the film is the theory that the television footage from the Apollo
11 Moon landing was faked and actually recorded in a studio by the CIA with help
from director Stanley Kubrick. It features some surprising guest appearances,
most notably by Donald Rumsfeld, Dr. Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Buzz
Aldrin and Stanley Kubrick's widow, Christiane Kubrick.

=============

Cheers,

Rich


and so the
agile mind of the paranoid went into high gear... which is equally
great entertainment...
And Jacoby woman... don't get uptight now! Just stay tight!...
ahaha.. Thanks for the laughs, dudes and dudettes... ahahanson

"Rich" wrote in message
...

[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...f1a721ed71de13
IIRC from the many times this issue was discussed here,
the suspicion and consequent conspiracy theories did
root in the original BAD quality of pixs from the moon. NASA
then went into their sandboxes out in Barstow and REfilmed
the scenes to impress the TV audience with a better show.
Unfortunately NASA did not acknowledge right away that
the TV news pix were reenacted and enhanced...

[Rich]
You mean they acknowledged this? Do you have a link?

[hanson]
Yes, Rich, they did; otherwise I would not have said so. However
I am not here to do research for you. Google/groups for -- Apollo
pictures transmission quality refilming, JPL etc. -- It is there, but like
with UFO-Roswell or Area 51 -- fantasies for feeding the paranoid
sells much easier... Just like the Einstein Dingleberries with their
fetish that their Relativity dominates and governs everything...
ahahaha... ahahahanson


[Rich]
I did see another google video program who's name escapes
me where they claimed not that Apollo was hoaxed, but that
the moon pictures were. Apparently with no radiation
shielding or insulation the film all came back fogged
or something.

Oh yes, they say that the pictures were filmed at Stanly
Kubrik's studio in the UK. Ah yes, it was called _Dark
Side of the Moon_, no pink floyd included. It does not seem
to be on google video any more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Si...n_(documentary)

Dark Side of the Moon (documentary)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dark Side of the Moon is a French documentary by director William Karel
which originally aired on Arte in 2002 with the title Opération Lune. The
basic premise for the film is the theory that the television footage from
the Apollo 11 Moon landing was faked and actually recorded in a studio by
the CIA with help from director Stanley Kubrick. It features some
surprising guest appearances, most notably by Donald Rumsfeld, Dr. Henry
Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Buzz Aldrin and Stanley Kubrick's widow,
Christiane Kubrick.
Cheers, Rich

----------------------

[hanson]
and so the
agile mind of the paranoid went into high gear... which is equally
great entertainment...
And Jacoby woman... don't get uptight now! Just stay tight!...
ahaha.. Thanks for the laughs, dudes and dudettes... ahahanson

hanson wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
...
[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...f1a721ed71de13
IIRC from the many times this issue was discussed here,
the suspicion and consequent conspiracy theories did
root in the original BAD quality of pixs from the moon. NASA
then went into their sandboxes out in Barstow and REfilmed
the scenes to impress the TV audience with a better show.
Unfortunately NASA did not acknowledge right away that
the TV news pix were reenacted and enhanced...
[Rich]
You mean they acknowledged this? Do you have a link?

[hanson]
Yes, Rich, they did; otherwise I would not have said so. However
I am not here to do research for you. Google/groups for -- Apollo
pictures transmission quality refilming, JPL etc. --

I don't find any references with this search string.

Cheers,

Rich

It is there, but like
with UFO-Roswell or Area 51 -- fantasies for feeding the paranoid
sells much easier... Just like the Einstein Dingleberries with their
fetish that their Relativity dominates and governs everything...
ahahaha... ahahahanson

[Rich]
I did see another google video program who's name escapes
me where they claimed not that Apollo was hoaxed, but that
the moon pictures were. Apparently with no radiation
shielding or insulation the film all came back fogged
or something.

Oh yes, they say that the pictures were filmed at Stanly
Kubrik's studio in the UK. Ah yes, it was called _Dark
Side of the Moon_, no pink floyd included. It does not seem
to be on google video any more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Si...n_(documentary)

Dark Side of the Moon (documentary)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dark Side of the Moon is a French documentary by director William Karel
which originally aired on Arte in 2002 with the title Opération Lune. The
basic premise for the film is the theory that the television footage from
the Apollo 11 Moon landing was faked and actually recorded in a studio by
the CIA with help from director Stanley Kubrick. It features some
surprising guest appearances, most notably by Donald Rumsfeld, Dr. Henry
Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Buzz Aldrin and Stanley Kubrick's widow,
Christiane Kubrick.
Cheers, Rich

----------------------
[hanson]
and so the
agile mind of the paranoid went into high gear... which is equally
great entertainment...
And Jacoby woman... don't get uptight now! Just stay tight!...
ahaha.. Thanks for the laughs, dudes and dudettes... ahahanson

ahahahaaha.. "Rich" wrote in message
. ..
hanson wrote:
"Rich" wrote in message
...
[hanson]
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...f1a721ed71de13
IIRC from the many times this issue was discussed here,
the suspicion and consequent conspiracy theories did
root in the original BAD quality of pixs from the moon. NASA
then went into their sandboxes out in Barstow and REfilmed
the scenes to impress the TV audience with a better show.
Unfortunately NASA did not acknowledge right away that
the TV news pix were reenacted and enhanced...

[Rich]
You mean they acknowledged this? Do you have a link?

[hanson]
Yes, Rich, they did; otherwise I would not have said so. However
I am not here to do research for you. Google/groups for -- Apollo
pictures transmission quality refilming, JPL etc. --

[Rich]
I don't find any references with this search string.

[hanson]
..... ahahaha... I said also "etc"... which means keep trying...
Cheers!... ahahahaha... It is there, Richie, somewhere!


[hanson]
It is there, but like
with UFO-Roswell or Area 51 -- fantasies for feeding the paranoid
sells much easier... Just like the Einstein Dingleberries with their
fetish that their Relativity dominates and governs everything...
ahahaha... ahahahanson

[Rich]
I did see another google video program who's name escapes
me where they claimed not that Apollo was hoaxed, but that
the moon pictures were. Apparently with no radiation
shielding or insulation the film all came back fogged
or something.

Oh yes, they say that the pictures were filmed at Stanly
Kubrik's studio in the UK. Ah yes, it was called _Dark
Side of the Moon_, no pink floyd included. It does not seem
to be on google video any more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Si...n_(documentary)

Dark Side of the Moon (documentary)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dark Side of the Moon is a French documentary by director William Karel
which originally aired on Arte in 2002 with the title Opération Lune.
The
basic premise for the film is the theory that the television footage
from
the Apollo 11 Moon landing was faked and actually recorded in a studio
by
the CIA with help from director Stanley Kubrick. It features some
surprising guest appearances, most notably by Donald Rumsfeld, Dr. Henry
Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Buzz Aldrin and Stanley Kubrick's widow,
Christiane Kubrick.
Cheers, Rich

----------------------
[hanson]
and so the
agile mind of the paranoid went into high gear... which is equally
great entertainment...
And Jacoby woman... don't get uptight now! Just stay tight!...
ahaha.. Thanks for the laughs, dudes and dudettes... ahahanson

Uncle Al wrote:

Hey stooopid, the Apollo landing was staged on Mars.

Aw ****! There goes the neighborhood!

On Jul 5, 7:34 pm, pico wrote:
Uncle Al wrote:
Hey stooopid, the Apollo landing was staged on Mars.

Aw ****! There goes the neighborhood!

I personally think it was staged on a tiny moon orbiting a planet
orbiting a star in a galaxy just at the causal horizon.

An dats de truff.