On Jul 4, 5:38 pm, wrote:
http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

Truth is always in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as well
as it's also why we've supposedly walked on that physically dark and
unavoidably anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all the time Venus
remained invisible to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was correct, in that there's
endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other life
within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this crazy but
otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/nondisclosure
rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain to our
terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets or
moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.

In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP.

How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

"BradGuth" wrote
"hanson" worte...
"BradGuth" wrote in message
"hanson" wrote:
"pico" picodigoliardi.nowhere.universe wrote
"Tonico" wrote in message
BradGuth wrote:
wrote:

[Schoenfeld]
http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html
Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered,
for eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet. ... [snip] ... There is much better evidence for the hoax
case, including non-parallel shadows and anomalies in the motion
of the astronauts, among other things.

[Guth]
You are absolutely correct, in that our government has always excluded
truthful evidence, while otherwise having planted phony evidence ...
[snip] ... Just keep asking those wise old NASA/Apollo wizards;
where's Venus? ... [snip]...
Notice how only our diehard Third Reich collaborating Jews ...[snip]...
claim with such supposed expertise as to believing we've walked on
that nasty moon of ours...[snip]... avoiding local gamma and hard-Xrays
that are so freaking DNA lethal... [snip, but note Brad's Yiddish words]:
** Go figure** how the frail DNA of us humans survived and still having
managed to miss that crescent of Venus included in any Kodak film.
....[snip]... notice how these GOOGLE supported MI5/NSA/CIA Zion
bots of Usenet's stealth damage control, have managed to foil
searches, besides their usual of topic/author stalking, bashings and
having infected our PCs with their interactive spermware/****ware.
- Brad Guth-

[Tonio]
.... [snip]... both Schoenfeld and Brad Guth write about hokus-pokus
conspiracies ... [snip]... but hey!: you have to acknowledge the
interesting antisemite Third-Reich-Jewish-Zionist evil witch of the
west spin Brad Guth spices his rambling with. That's originality...

[hanson]
..... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA... Come on, Tonio! These are not
"ramblings, hokus-pokus and nonsenses and plain stupidities".
In their minds, all this is true and hardcore fact.. proven by them!
To boot, Guth/Schoenfeld posts..[snip].. are better entertaiment!
So enjoy it... unabashed! ...[snip]... Carry on!..-

[Brad]
Your hokus-pokus (aka hocus-pocus) isn't the least bit funny
unless you're a Zionist bigot of a Yid on steroids.

[hanson]
.... [snip.... ahahahaha...]... Brad, in case that you have addressed
your profound displeasure at me, let me point out that I gave you
a well deserved plug .. [snip]... So, there is no need for you to
behave almost like this splendid member of your favorite ilk he
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e1842edc4f ...[snip]... OTOH,
don't expect me to bank on/with your opinions... ...yet.

[Brad]
....[snip]...
What's still so Yiddish taboo/nondisclosure about our moon's L1?

[hanson]
.... yeah, yeah, Brad, [[snip]... Tell me more about the Yidds' taboos
about the lunar L1. This is new to me. ...

[Brad]
....[section snipped for later investigations]....

[hanson]
Hold the door, or "Hoe-de-doh" as afro-zionists would say, Brad.
We shall get to... [the snipped]... 3 paras after you explain and do
convince me of/about that mysterious yiddish lunar L1 situation...

[Toni]
"Tonico" wrote in message
ups.com...
Uuuuh....well, after our overall world **coon-spiracy** has been
finally exposed by the superb minds of Schoenfeld and Bradguth,
I supose I can come out clean now about this huge hoax:
we zionist-evilish-yiddishish....boooh!!!!-ish conspirators actually
took Venus to Israel ... [snip]... That's why Venus doesn't show
up in the pics. There, I've confessed!

[hanson]
Hmm... **Coon-spiracy**...See, you racist, lying Zionist, Tonio,
you were/are & always will be thieves thru' your heritage and by
your X-ray resistant DNA, just like Brad said... [snipped... ahahaha...]

[Pico]
"pico" picodigoliardi.nowhere.universe wrote in message
...
At first I was alarmed that you gave it away, Tonico, but it is time for
the world to know [that] We have a name for our universal conspiracy
? network: we call ourselves the Oysters. Yah know, Oy, oy, oy!

[hanson]
AHH.. ha!... The plot thickens!... You two Salamis, Tonio and Pico,
you are NOT Yidds, but Sephardim who are the real Zionists and
who look down onto your low class quasi-Jew AshkeNazim ilk...
& mock them here with your "Oy, oy, oyster gag", to cover up that
Brad was right all along: You Jews have indeed stolen Venus!...
and to make matters worse for you, Brad has the last laugh!
Brad Guth said ** Go figure** which proves that Brad is really
an honest Jew under deep cover... [snip... ahahahaha...]... hanson

[Brad]
Why don't you Skull and Bones as supposed honest folks
(aka spooks, moles and rusemasters) share with us, by simply
telling the rest of us village idiots where Venus was hiding.
Please use an interactive 3D solar system simulator...
... [sipped additonal Yiddishe rusing by - Brad Guth]--

[hanson]
Wow... Something is wrong now. Brad has NOT mentionned the
word Jew or Yidds in his post a single time. Brad, is that because
your deep cover has been blown... you, Mr. "Bradavir Guthman"?.
.... ahahaha... Hey, Brad your coming out of the closet is not as
bad, by far, as is the Yiddish Tolerance Museum's rabbi Hier,
who when tender love "tl" is added into his name, it spells "Hitler"...

Now, AFA your missing Venus problem. I have posted before that
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...f1a721ed71de13
after the first horribly grainy and fuzzy moon landing pix from the
Apollo/NASA moon landing came in, the JPL did: a) "Retouched"
the pix and b) went out to the Mojave behind Barstow and re-staged
the original moon scenes. (with Venus & parallel shadows naturally
NOT being there). NASA & the news commentators of the time told,
while airing the new takes, that they did so with the sole purpose
**** to bring better quality pictures and film to the public****
That's just good PR by NASA.... AND it feeds the agile mind of the
paranoids just like in Hangar 18, Area 51, Roswell etc... ahahaha...

On L. Silverstein WTC 7, I also posted to Schoenfeld to look up
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...7678fcfa07b5f7
or go to the City Hall and check out the permits that Larry S.
had pulled to see what factually went on in the destruction of
that building. Schoeni did not, but preferred to believe his own
"analysis"... Cool by me. Great entertainment!..... ahahaha...

Have fun, Mr. Guthman... ahaha. You are always good for a chuckle.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

On Jul 23, 11:52 am, "hanson" wrote:
Have fun, Mr. Guthman... ahaha. You are always good for a chuckle.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

I'll say it again and again, with as much love and affection as I can
muster.

Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as
well as it's also why we've got to live with the swarm mindset of our
supposedly having walked on that physically dark and unavoidably
anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all of that time Venus remained
invisible as to any possible rad-hard Kodak moment to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was correct, in that there's
endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other life
within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this crazy but
otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/nondisclosure
rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain to our
terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets or
moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.

In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.

How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

On 23 jul, 22:07, BradGuth wrote:


How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

*******************************************

Terribly, suckingly, awfully, unbelievably bad. Learn some science.
There, I´ve answered your question.
Your welcome.
Regards from Zion
Tonio

Bradavir Guthman aka goyim "BradGuth" w/i
oups.com...
"hanson" wrote:
Have fun, Mr. Guthman... ahaha. You are always good for a chuckle.
ahahahaha... ahahahanson

[Bradavir]
I'll say it again and again, with as much love and affection as I can
muster.

Truth has always been in the swarm cultivated eye of the beholder, as
well as it's also why we've got to live with the swarm mindset of our
supposedly having walked on that physically dark and unavoidably
anticathode nasty moon of ours, while all of that time Venus remained
invisible as to any possible rad-hard Kodak moment to boot.

Carl Sagan's constructive yaysayism was correct, in that there's
endless possibilities of complex and even intelligent other life
within the Universe. Unfortunately, the local realm of this crazy but
otherwise vast universe seems rather unusually taboo/nondisclosure
rated, whereas the regular laws of physics that pertain to our
terrestrial existence seem not to apply to other local planets or
moons, especially if there's anything faith-based taken into
consideration.

Somehow, not even the honestly deductive interpretations on behalf of
any exploration obtained image, especially if it's derived from a
proper composite made of 36 radar looks or confirming exposures per
pixel, is simply not allowed no matters what those interpretations
have to offer, as not even the perfectly natural planetology of such a
geothermally active and thus newish planet such as Venus can be openly
shared without such topics taking on the lethal gauntlet of all that's
faith-based and/or ulterior motivated past the point of no return.
It's as though whatever laws of physics, the science of planetology
and even biology that works on behalf of interpreting our terrestrial
existence simply can not be applied on behalf of any other planet or
moon (including our own moon that's simply need-to-know or entirely
off-limits to anything except the NASA/Apollo holy grail). We can't
even honestly contemplate utilizing our moon's L1, much less the
relocation of our moon to Earth's L1, or forbid having anything to do
with establishing POOF City at Venus L2(VL2) as our first truly
interplanetary depot/gateway.

It seems our one and only viable alternative is to accept the past,
present and future as having been interpreted and thus scripted by the
faith-based mindset or swarm like intelligence, that's clearly
unwilling to look or even allow of others to look outside their
mainstream status quo box. This leaves us with the one and only
global domination options of war upon war until the last of whatever
dissenting mindset has been eliminated. Being that we'll all have to
accept whatever the upper most 0.1% of humanity has to say (or else),
doesn't exactly leave all that many of us off of their NO FLY list.

The ongoing swarm like manipulations of physics as having been made or
otherwise forced to suit their faith-based interpretations of science,
is simply the exposed tip of their badly polluted iceberg that's
clearly melting rather nicely before our typically dumbfounded eyes.

Those in charge of our mainstream media and especially of public
textbooks and science journals that are permitted to exist are also
those in charge of having established our past, present and future,
that no matters what has to reinforce upon all that came before.
Therefore, revisionism of any kind simply is not allowed, regardless
of the truths or replicated scientific evidence that gets presented.
Only of whatever allows the past to remain unchanged is permitted, and
even that much usually has to conform to the prevailing faith-based
mindset of those in charge.

In other words, Carl Sagan would have to agree that it's far better to
hide or exclude whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt
off than to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.

How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

...... about what?

On Jul 23, 12:53 pm, Tonico wrote:
On 23 jul, 22:07, BradGuth wrote:



How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

*******************************************

Terribly, suckingly, awfully, unbelievably bad. Learn some science.
There, I´ve answered your question.
Your welcome.
Regards from Zion
Tonio

Been there, done that, you lose.
- Brad Guth

On Jul 23, 1:45 pm, "hanson" wrote:
..... about what?

About most of anything that comes from your Yiddish butt-cheek brain.

You lie, I fix.
- Brad Guth

On Jul 24, 4:36 am, BradGuth wrote:
[...]

How am I doing so far?

Generally agreed. However, I depart from your views on Carl Sagan.
Sagan was either a fool for "crackpotizing" the UFO phenomenon during
its modern infancy when it still had chance for reasonable public
exposure, or, as member of Project Blue-Book, was just another
conspirator helping aid its cover-up.

Sagan believed abundant UFO reports were merely the planet Venus, a
planet he believed could not be observed by "astronauts" from the
lunar surface. To hold such contradictions as views, simultaneously
believing them both to be true, reveals the true founding principle of
his much touted "critical thinking" - Error.

Bradavir Guthman aka BradGuth" wrote in
oups.com...
ups.com...
I'll say it again and again, with as much love and affection
as I can muster. ... [snip]... it's far better to hide or exclude
whatever truth(s), and/or to essentially lie your butt off than
to rock thy mainstream status quo good ship LOLLIPOP,
especially if that ship has a Jewish captain.
How am I doing so far?
- Brad Guth

"hanson" wrote:
..... about what?

[Guthman]
About most of anything that comes from your
Yiddish butt-cheek brain. -- You lie, I fix.
- Brad Guth

[hanson]
Don't be THAT paranoid now, Brad. Where did I lie and what
did you fix?... ahahahaha... and what makes you believe that I
am a Yidd, or that I do treat them preferentially? First of all
you must fix your own fixations about you getting so bent outa
shape over/because of Jews. Jews are ****ing funny, dude!

Brad, your attention to and fixation with Jews is not uncommon.
After all, they are funniest, most crankable, engaging and
entertaining ilk there is on the Usenet.
But you have fallen for their gags & tricks of verbal intimidation.

Jews are not any different then the rest of us goys, except
that they are much, MUCH louder, and when they achieve
anything that is out of the norm, they never praise them-
selves saying: "I worked hard / I studied deeply / I was
lucky... No, with them it is always "because I am Jewish"
ahahaha... ahahahaha... AHAHAHA...

Of course that loud, self-aggrandizing religious shrillness
makes every goy angry, ... but you, Brad, you have let yourself
become intimidated by them to the point that to see a Jew in
very boat and under every bed. Think about it,...Let'em do the
dirty work and let'em expose themselves (by their own actions)
to their apparently celebratetd, looked for, desired and
welcomed past and future collective ass-kickings and
barbequings. See here for that "why, how and when":
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...ad269a321ff50a

A notable exception, when compared to the very obnoxious
US Jew types, is the Israeli poster Yehiel Porat whose personal
physics is quite loud, insistent, admirable, instructive & very
pedagogic to the student crowd here in sci.physics.
Yehiel never made any remarks that his physics is splendid
because he is Jewish, nor does he brag around with the financial
and intellectual state of Jews because their are Jewish, ...
aux contraire, Yehi said openly and loudly that most of the
world's Jews are intellectually quite average and rather poor
when compared to other white goyim. Porat is a good Yidd.

Now Brad, as little as you will take my post here for serious
so do the Jews take yours... except that everybody seems
to have great fun with you on your account... which is alright
by me.... ahaha... So, carry on as you must and see fit... and
Thanks for the laughs, Brad.... ahahaha... ahahasnon

On Jul 25, 2:46 am, wrote:
On Jul 24, 4:36 am, BradGuth wrote:
[...]

How am I doing so far?

Generally agreed. However, I depart from your views on Carl Sagan.
Sagan was either a fool for "crackpotizing" the UFO phenomenon during
its modern infancy when it still had chance for reasonable public
exposure, or, as member of Project Blue-Book, was just another
conspirator helping aid its cover-up.

Sagan believed abundant UFO reports were merely the planet Venus, a
planet he believed could not be observed by "astronauts" from the
lunar surface. To hold such contradictions as views, simultaneously
believing them both to be true, reveals the true founding principle of
his much touted "critical thinking" - Error.

I tend to agree that Carl Sagan's positive/yaysay mindset about this
vast universe cultivating and sustaining other intelligent life wasn't
exactly all there for us, whereas at least at times his mindset made
the effort of having excluded whatever potential of visiting ETs, and
as you say having otherwise lied his infomercial spewing butt off with
regard to his going along with whatever our mutually perpetrated cold-
war demanded, that we'd supposedly walked on that physically dark and
nasty moon of ours, but oddly couldn't possibly have noticed Venus.

According to all that's NASA/Apollo; that raw sunlight on our naked
moon was not only passive, but it was offering exactly the very same
spectrum worth of a xenon arc lamp, and even as well as for such
passive photons arriving from multiple directions at the same time, as
well as having provided some kind of cosmic robo back-lighting or
nifty fill-in illumination as somehow getting nicely reflected off
that sooty coal dark moon to boot. Why arnt we impressed as all get
out?

If we accept that moon of ours was in fact associated with Earth as of
the last 4 billion years, and having been collecting its fair share of
local and cosmic debris (say at the average rate of merely 4e9 grams/
year), whereas within each billion years amounts to roughly 100 kg/m2,
and of 4 billion years is therefore packing in 400 kg/m2 worth of that
naked environment having obtained such cosmic crystal dry debris,
along with such a gauntlet of impacts generated whatever secondary
shards of local debris that might at least 10 fold that combined dust
factor, of which now gives us a dry 4 tonnes/m2 of such surface
accumulations to deal with, especially once having included all of
those unavoidable local debris accumulations of what such a naked orb
as our 7.35e22 kg orbiting mascon should have easily managed for its
salty old dusty self.

On Earth, with our typically wet atmospheric and relatively damp
surface environment for such collected dust eroding and binding to
itself, plus the added gravity might cause this same 4000 kg/m2 of
combined influx and local lose debris worth of such physical
substances (even if it were kept desert dry) to easily represent more
than a cubic meter, or something greater than a meter in average
depth. However, upon the absolutely crystal dry and electrostatic
environment of such a nifty cosmic morgue of that vacuum freeze dried
and/or vacuum roasted to death moon of ours, as having but 1/6th the
gravity to work with, is likely going to represent a potential minimum
of 10 meters in depth for having accommodated all of that raw influx
that's including whatever's the local secondary shards and subsequent
local contributed dust, with drifts at the base of a given slope or
within a crater basin being worth 10s of meters in absolutely crystal
dry and otherwise non-sticking, least surface tension capable or
otherwise least clump worthy soil (aka dry quicksand), that's also
upon albedo average having to be nearly as sooty dark as an open pit
coal mine, and always highly electrostatic and naked anti-cathode
worthy of creating a local saturation of gamma and hard-Xrays to boot.

There's no freaking way that any of our hocus-pocus NASA/Apollo
astronauts set any such rad-hard moonboot within that physically nasty
environment, at least not as made the least bit evident by way of any
such unfiltered Kodak moments that somehow could not even manage once
out of thousands of frames to record the nearby vibrance of a crescent
Venus. Terribly sorry about all that pesky moon hoax implications
that'll need a little extra revisionism applied.

BTW, I see that our warm and fuzzy GOOGLE/NOVA Usenet server is still
selectively stuck in their "Sort by date" past of sharing nothing any
newer on behalf of anything "Brad Guth" than July 17, 2007. A good
example of our very own Yiddish swarm of topic/author damage-control
(aka MIB) mindset in stealth/robo action.
- Brad Guth