On 8 jul, 13:46, wrote:
On Jul 6, 2:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:

On Jul 4, 5:38 pm, wrote:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

Fools of such bigotry in denial of their denial, to say the least.

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?
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Yes, my boy: you really MUST not only doubt everything in human
history, but actually be COMPLETELY sure that ALL is a huge scam, a
huge hoax designed by some obscure, suspicious people in order
to....uh....for....er....well, who knows what the heck for!
It must be a bliss to be you, knowing ALL are conspiring to deceive
you...uh....well, the hell knows what for, in particular when ALL the
evidence galore points precisely towards the other side you're staring
at....a huge bliss, indeed.
Regards
Tonio
Pd. By the way, I've learned the internet is ANOTHER huge hoax and
we've been convinced into BELIEVING we do chat.

On Jul 8, 8:56 pm, Tonico wrote:
On 8 jul, 13:46, wrote:

On Jul 6, 2:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:

On Jul 4, 5:38 pm, wrote:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

Fools of such bigotry in denial of their denial, to say the least.

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

************************************************** *********
Yes, my boy: you really MUST not only doubt everything in human
history, but actually be COMPLETELY sure that ALL is a huge scam, a
huge hoax designed by some obscure, suspicious people in order
to....uh....for....er....well, who knows what the heck for!
It must be a bliss to be you, knowing ALL are conspiring to deceive
you...uh....well, the hell knows what for, in particular when ALL the
evidence galore points precisely towards the other side you're staring
at....a huge bliss, indeed.
Regards
Tonio
Pd. By the way, I've learned the internet is ANOTHER huge hoax and
we've been convinced into BELIEVING we do chat.

Yes, that's right. For all I know, physical reality may be just
another deception waged by the subconcious mind against the concious
mind. The greatest victory is that against oneself.

On Jul 8, 9:07 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
wrote:

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

Not only did we send a dozen humans to the surface of the moon, but
the landers, buggies, equipment and foot prints are still there! You
can even bounce lasers of the corner reflectors.

Actually, according to the official NASA story, the buggies were in
the landers and the landers crashed back onto the moon at unknown
locations right after they were used to ascend back into the orbiting
capsule. No landers, buggies, and whatever happened to the 700 boxes
of original moon landing video? Still "lost"? What a stupid cover
story.

As for the lunar retroflectors, how did the Russians get theirs up
there? Retroflectors on the moon only prove there are retroflectors on
the moon and the Russians proved you don't need a manned lunar mission
to deploy them.

On Jul 8, 7:51 am, wrote:
On Jul 8, 9:07 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

wrote:

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

Not only did we send a dozen humans to the surface of the moon, but
the landers, buggies, equipment and foot prints are still there! You
can even bounce lasers of the corner reflectors.

Actually, according to the official NASA story, the buggies were in
the landers and the landers crashed back onto the moon at unknown
locations right after they were used to ascend back into the orbiting
capsule. No landers, buggies, and whatever happened to the 700 boxes
of original moon landing video? Still "lost"? What a stupid cover
story.

As for the lunar retroflectors, how did the Russians get theirs up
there? Retroflectors on the moon only prove there are retroflectors on
the moon and the Russians proved you don't need a manned lunar mission
to deploy them.

Also we promised only to bounce of OUR retoflectors.

Why would they even load the buggies if they
were just going to crash the lander back onto
the moon? Would weight not be at a premium?

When did they transfer all the
moon rocks?

So there is nothing there for us
to see except footprints? Is
Hubble capable of seeing footprints on the moon?

John

On Jul 8, 6:51 am, wrote:
Actually, according to the official NASA story, the buggies were in
the landers and the landers crashed back onto the moon at unknown
locations right after they were used to ascend back into the orbiting
capsule. No landers, buggies, and whatever happened to the 700 boxes
of original moon landing video? Still "lost"? What a stupid cover
story.

As for the lunar retroflectors, how did the Russians get theirs up
there? Retroflectors on the moon only prove there are retroflectors on
the moon and the Russians proved you don't need a manned lunar mission
to deploy them.

I agree, that far too much of what should have easily been matter of
fact is simply an ongoing matter of what-if. Too bad it has taken
such spendy and lethal decades, having diverted our best talent and
resources, plus having sustained our fully perpetrated cold-war as
having cost humanity and of our failing environment an extra good
trillion per decade.

Perhaps it's merely the ultimate naysayism black hole of GOOGLE/NOVA
Usenet that's having a bad decade, much like the past 4+ bad decades
of our NASA, along with those oily Muslims thinking it was a seriously
bad century worth of an idea being relatively poor and otherwise of
such low impact upon our global environment.

Swarmisim is actually what Atheism and many other faith-based cults
are all about (including our Third Reich host Skull and Bones), along
with our frail DNA lacking any remorse for having perpetrated such
horrific lies upon lies. Therefore, we should each collectively swarm
to our black heart's content, especially since there's only a few
centuries of spendy and bloody grief remaining, if that much.

Since our moon's L1 remains as so unusually taboo/nondisclosure rated
(as well as for perfectly good gamma and hard-Xray reasons), whereas
Venus L2 represents our next space depot/gateway home away from home
is actually offering us a fairly cool and radiation survivable
location that we simply need to develop, thus claim before it's taken
by others having ulterior motives. Here's one of my new and somewhat
word improved rants that'll help justify our motivation for
establishing POOF City at VL2.
-
"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth

On Jul 8, 3:46 am, wrote:
On Jul 6, 2:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:

On Jul 4, 5:38 pm, wrote:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

Fools of such bigotry in denial of their denial, to say the least.

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth

On 8 jul, 21:14, BradGuth wrote:
On Jul 8, 3:46 am, wrote:





On Jul 6, 2:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:

On Jul 4, 5:38 pm, wrote:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

Fools of such bigotry in denial of their denial, to say the least.

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth-
************************************************
Hey, hellooooo! And what happened to the usual zionist jewish hokus-
pokus demonish shmonish ramble??
Are you beginning to like jews?? Oy vey!!!!!
One can´t trust fundie nazi-racist antisemites anymore...**sigh**
Regards
Tonio

On Jul 8, 11:26 am, Tonico wrote:
On 8 jul, 21:14, BradGuth wrote:



On Jul 8, 3:46 am, wrote:

On Jul 6, 2:35 pm, BradGuth wrote:

On Jul 4, 5:38 pm, wrote:

http://www.iamthewitness.com/NASA-exposes-Apollo.html

Those who were deceived by the Apollo Hoax will be remembered, for
eternity, as the greatest fools ever to have walked the surface of
this planet.

Fools of such bigotry in denial of their denial, to say the least.

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on themoon7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

"whoever controls the past, controls the future" / George Orwell
-
Brad Guth-

************************************************
Hey, hellooooo! And what happened to the usual zionist jewish hokus-
pokus demonish shmonish ramble??
Are you beginning to like jews?? Oy vey!!!!!
One can´t trust fundie nazi-racist antisemites anymore...**sigh**
Regards
Tonio- Hide quoted text -

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What's your problem?

Most of the Jews I know of are smart and wouldn't so much as hurt a
Muslim fly.

The still alive and kicking Third Reich (aka Skull and Bones and
Zionism) is exactly what it is. You've got actual proof otherwise?
-
Brad Guth

I was nine years old during the alleged landing, and
I still believe; see Bucky's _Critical Path_ exegesis on the
technological arch,
which certainly includes film & television.

another ponderable hoax would be,
what if men are *still* on Moon, only
"they" are not televizing it too regularly?

I believe that this may be the substratum
to a lot of Dick Hoagland's schtick with the Face on Mars,
Domes on Moon, Howitzers (tm) in the Rover pix etc.;
a kind of pleading to get your telescope out, and look,
a la the Harry Potter weekly astronomy class.

even better, to construt your own scope (but
the algorithm to do that, that used to be on The New Federalist
website ain't there,
no mo .-)

if the Wright Bros. hadn't understood _The Bicycle Wheel_
(by Jobst Brand), they would never have flown ****.

One has to wonder, if almost all of the worlds population including
the supposed "intelligent" few in the scientific community believe the
complete myth that man landed on the moon 7 times just 40 years ago,
what other commonly held beliefs are also complete lies? Is the whole
historical record nothing but mere mythology?

thus:
as shown in _The Bicycle Wheel_,
the spokes act as columns, however that actually works
on a turning wheel under a rider if not maximally
when the spoke is closest to the ground,
due to great prestressing (or some thing .-)

I would consider bicycle spokes purely tensile, though certainly spokes
could serve as compression elements in a tensegrity model carefully

thus:
mine is a lot simpler & analogous
to the trilateral ineq.
(we uncovered this in a Buckafka Fullofit maillist,
which has since been made more private;
one of the correspondents spent some hours
to derive it by programming,
which was kinda strange .-)...
I am still not sure,
how many sets of the the basic tetrahedral inequality,
it has to satisfy, but probably six.

thus:
ah, this looks like a good exercise
for comprehending "absolute value" function,
as well as of the trilateral inequality....

| x - y | = | |x| - |y| |
means these two things:
| x - y | = |x| - |y|
| x - y | = |y| - |x|

thus:
in Sudan, Iran and possibly all other once and
future British quagmires.... Belize, Canada, Trinidad
AND Tobago; when we get there,
be sure to ask if it's more than one country, and
did we miss Trinidad andOR Tobago?
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...es/2007/05/01/
pentagon_study_says_oil_reliance_strains_military? mode=PF

thus:
look, up in the sky -- it's Googoltude (TM) ?!?
http://www.ldeo.columbia.edu/LCSN/Eq...C_LDEO_KIM.pdf

--n~nerfman~n!

On Jul 8, 7:11 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
wrote:

As for the lunar retroflectors, how did the Russians get theirs up
there? Retroflectors on the moon only prove there are retroflectors on
the moon and the Russians proved you don't need a manned lunar mission
to deploy them.

Not only did we send a dozen humans to the surface of the moon, but
the landers, buggies, equipment and foot prints are still there! You
can even bounce lasers of the corner reflectors.


Are our corner reflectors distinguishable from the Russians'?
Can we visualize these objects you claim are there?
John