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On Jul 6, 2:53 pm, " wrote:
On Jul 6, 11:15 am, Randy Poe wrote: On Jul 6, 3:13 am, " wrote: On Jul 5, 4:43 pm, Randy Poe wrote: On Jul 4, 6:41 am, " wrote: It is confusing and error prone What is? Did you mean to have a link in your post? - Randy The very same link that you gave about redshift versus distance. I guess you mean this one: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/sne_cosmology.html yes It was irritating to make me dig for it. So I don't start this post in a good mood. Sorry, thought you knew it off hand cause it's the only one you gave me about redshift I think? I was wondering if that chart was modified in the following way below what it would mean: (linear means a chart with a linear straight slope increasing gradually as it is plotted from present to past distances) No, "linear" does not mean slope is "increasing gradually". "Linear" means slope is constant. Correct....what I ment was as opposed to a straight horizontal line on the chart. If that original chart was modified: 1. What would a decelerating chart of the expansion rate look like? Do you mean what would the curve look like if expansion rate (slope) were higher for older, more distant observations? It would curve upward, having higher slope at the larger distances. ok 2. What if the past distance is curved above the linear and the present distance is curved below the linear? Depends on the shape you mean. Easier to describe in terms of slope. I could imagine a curve matching your description in which slope smallest in the middle, and larger at both ends. 3. What if both past and present are curved above the linear? 4. What if past is curved below and present curved above? All your questions are better asked in terms of slope. As it is, I don't know exactly what you have in mind. But the answers will all be based on this: Large slope = large expansion rate, small slope = small expansion rate. ok but if both large and small slope represent an expansion They do. You haven't read what I said? Large slope = large expansion rate. Small slope = small expansion rate. I just said that. Look up two lines. Both are expansions. so then what kind of slope would reprent a contraction instead of expansion? A negative slope in redshift would indicate objects that are getting farther from us, but closer to each other. If they were getting closer to us, then there would be a blueshift. - Randy |
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On Jul 8, 4:05 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jul 6, 2:53 pm, " wrote: On Jul 6, 11:15 am, Randy Poe wrote: On Jul 6, 3:13 am, " wrote: On Jul 5, 4:43 pm, Randy Poe wrote: On Jul 4, 6:41 am, " wrote: It is confusing and error prone What is? Did you mean to have a link in your post? - Randy The very same link that you gave about redshift versus distance. I guess you mean this one: http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/sne_cosmology.html yes It was irritating to make me dig for it. So I don't start this post in a good mood. Sorry, thought you knew it off hand cause it's the only one you gave me about redshift I think? I was wondering if that chart was modified in the following way below what it would mean: (linear means a chart with a linear straight slope increasing gradually as it is plotted from present to past distances) No, "linear" does not mean slope is "increasing gradually". "Linear" means slope is constant. Correct....what I ment was as opposed to a straight horizontal line on the chart. If that original chart was modified: 1. What would a decelerating chart of the expansion rate look like? Do you mean what would the curve look like if expansion rate (slope) were higher for older, more distant observations? It would curve upward, having higher slope at the larger distances. ok 2. What if the past distance is curved above the linear and the present distance is curved below the linear? Depends on the shape you mean. Easier to describe in terms of slope. I could imagine a curve matching your description in which slope smallest in the middle, and larger at both ends. 3. What if both past and present are curved above the linear? 4. What if past is curved below and present curved above? All your questions are better asked in terms of slope. As it is, I don't know exactly what you have in mind. But the answers will all be based on this: Large slope = large expansion rate, small slope = small expansion rate. ok but if both large and small slope represent an expansion They do. You haven't read what I said? Large slope = large expansion rate. Small slope = small expansion rate. I just said that. Look up two lines. Both are expansions. so then what kind of slope would reprent a contraction instead of expansion? A negative slope in redshift would indicate objects that are getting farther from us, but closer to each other. Oh my mistake I thought the slope was dipping down towards the end where as it's only bending less. If they were getting closer to us, then there would be a blueshift. - Randy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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