Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).


Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

On Jun 26, 4:57 am, " wrote:
Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

If you put an observer in the space, it won't be empty.

Figure 3: The wave impedance measures
the relative strength of electric and magnetic
fields. It is a function of source [or absorber] structure.
http://www.sm.luth.se/~urban/master/Theory/3.html
Formerly: http://www.conformity.com/0102reflections.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_impedance
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_space
http://www-ssg.sr.unh.edu/ism/what.html

You may however be the unique observer that
could participate in such an experiment given
the quality of vacuum between your ears.

With aluminum ear muffs you might discover
hitherto unheard of phenomena. )

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...o ogle+Search

Sue...

On Jun 26, 4:43 am, "Sue..." wrote:
On Jun 26, 4:57 am, " wrote:

Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

If you put an observer in the space, it won't be empty.

Figure 3: The wave impedance measures
the relative strength of electric and magnetic
fields. It is a function of source [or absorber] structure. http://www.sm.luth.se/~urban/master/Theory/3.html
Formerly:http://www.conformity.com/0102reflections.html


Are you saying the em fields don't cancel-out?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_im.../ism/what.html

You may however be the unique observer that
could participate in such an experiment given
the quality of vacuum between your ears.

With aluminum ear muffs you might discover
hitherto unheard of phenomena. )

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...culate%22&btnG...

Sue...

On Jun 26, 6:41 am, " wrote:
On Jun 26, 4:43 am, "Sue..." wrote:





On Jun 26, 4:57 am, " wrote:

Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

If you put an observer in the space, it won't be empty.

Figure 3: The wave impedance measures
the relative strength of electric and magnetic
fields. It is a function of source [or absorber] structure. http://www.sm.luth.se/~urban/master/Theory/3.html
Formerly:http://www.conformity.com/0102reflections.html

Are you saying the em fields don't cancel-out?

Yes... That is why automobile headlamps do not
have to obey traffic signals.

Sue...




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_im...kipedia.org/wi...

You may however be the unique observer that
could participate in such an experiment given
the quality of vacuum between your ears.

With aluminum ear muffs you might discover
hitherto unheard of phenomena. )

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...culate%22&btnG...

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On Jun 26, 3:57 am, " wrote:
Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase

You mean 180 degrees, I think.

and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

Nature saves us from this paradox: Since the two sources can't
really be exactly on top of each other but must be some
distance apart, there will always be places where they add
constructively (in phase) as well.

- Randy

"Sue..." wrote in news:1182851112.158597.234670
@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

Yes... That is why automobile headlamps do not
have to obey traffic signals.


the lamps do, but not the light from them [except it MUST obey the speed
limit of 'c'].




--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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On Jun 26, 6:11 am, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jun 26, 3:57 am, " wrote:

Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase

You mean 180 degrees, I think.

and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

Nature saves us from this paradox: Since the two sources can't
really be exactly on top of each other but must be some
distance apart, there will always be places where they add
constructively (in phase) as well.

- Randy

Ok but as I showed above even a dead battery is an energy conservation
equation.

Therefore because of what you said, then lets "exagerate a little" and
say the two waves (coming from the same or as well **direct opposite**
dirfection) are both get caught in the EXACT same GRAVITY pull...so
strong they become a perfect orbit around the gravity pull....say
always "R" distance.

And since they are 180 out of phase then a perpetuel energy supply
will be reduced to ZERO..thus no energy conservation???....(unless we
remove the Gravity force years later and all of a sudden a trillion
volts of energy suddenly spurts out?)

(PS I still think gravity will pull on them even if no wave is
visible...thus the wave will not behave exactly as empty space
behaves??)

On Jun 26, 9:31 pm, " wrote:
On Jun 26, 6:11 am, Randy Poe wrote:





On Jun 26, 3:57 am, " wrote:

Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase

You mean 180 degrees, I think.

and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

Nature saves us from this paradox: Since the two sources can't
really be exactly on top of each other but must be some
distance apart, there will always be places where they add
constructively (in phase) as well.

- Randy

Ok but as I showed above even a dead battery is an energy conservation
equation.

Therefore because of what you said, then lets "exagerate a little" and
say the two waves (coming from the same or as well **direct opposite**
dirfection) are both get caught in the EXACT same GRAVITY pull...so
strong they become a perfect orbit around the gravity pull....say
always "R" distance.

And since they are 180 out of phase then a perpetuel energy supply
will be reduced to ZERO..thus no energy conservation???....(unless we
remove the Gravity force years later and all of a sudden a trillion
volts of energy suddenly spurts out?)


If the original waves were in opposite direction of course, otherwise
the energy would still not reappear after the force of gravity is
removed.

(Since "c" is constant perhaps they could have even come in at
different angles prior to the constant orbit around the force of
gravity.....black hole force I presume)


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On Jun 26, 5:45 am, "Sue..." wrote:
On Jun 26, 6:41 am, " wrote:



On Jun 26, 4:43 am, "Sue..." wrote:

On Jun 26, 4:57 am, " wrote:

Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).

Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

If you put an observer in the space, it won't be empty.

Figure 3: The wave impedance measures
the relative strength of electric and magnetic
fields. It is a function of source [or absorber] structure. http://www.sm.luth.se/~urban/master/Theory/3.html
Formerly:http://www.conformity.com/0102reflections.html

Are you saying the em fields don't cancel-out?

Yes... That is why automobile headlamps do not
have to obey traffic signals.


Why wouldn't they cancel out at 180 degrees since the em field is also
in a phase relationship with the phase of the wave.

Sue...





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_im...kipedia.org/wi...

You may however be the unique observer that
could participate in such an experiment given
the quality of vacuum between your ears.

With aluminum ear muffs you might discover
hitherto unheard of phenomena. )

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...culate%22&btnG...

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On 2007-06-26, wrote:

Since energy is never lost (a dead battery emitted energy away before
it became dead).


Two polarized same mono-frequency light waves(or lasers) with a
TRILLION volts of energy are exactly 90 degrees out of phase and along
the same trajectory thus due to superposition will they be invisible?

Will they be harmless?

Will we be able to notice the difference between them and an empty
space?

Will you ever grow up?