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Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation
emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. http://resources.yesican-science.ca/...em_matter.html QUOTE: "Since energy is always conserved, the kinetic energy of the ejected electron, its binding (orbital) energy, and the new photon energy all add up to the quantum energy of the original incident photon." |
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On Jun 23, 3:05 am, " wrote:
Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. http://resources.yesican-science.ca/...l/index_em_mat... QUOTE: "Since energy is always conserved, the kinetic energy of the ejected electron, its binding (orbital) energy, and the new photon energy all add up to the quantum energy of the original incident photon." Where is the word accelerate found on that page? Sue... |
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On Jun 22, 10:05 pm, " wrote:
[...] Why don't you stop worrying about advanced subjects and master the basics first? |
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On Jun 23, 2:05 am, " wrote:
Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. No, it isn't. How many times do you plan to go around that particular loop? Q. An electron going to a higher shell is accelerated... A. No it isn't. Q. OK, but an electron going to a higher shell speeds up... A. No it doesn't. Q. OK, but anyway an electron going to a higher shell is accelerated... A. No it isn't... Can we save time? The answer is "no it isn't", every time you make this statement. For future reference, this will be Guskz Statement EHSA (Electron Higher Shell Accelerated). - Randy |
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On Jun 23, 2:05 am, " wrote:
Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. http://resources.yesican-science.ca/...l/index_em_mat... QUOTE: "Since energy is always conserved, the kinetic energy of the ejected electron, its binding (orbital) energy, and the new photon energy all add up to the quantum energy of the original incident photon." You have at least three serious repeating misconceptions rolled up in this one: Electrons in atoms are in little planetary orbits. (We'll call that Guskz Statement EAKO -- Electrons in Atoms, Keplerian Orbits). Planets in higher orbits have faster speeds (we'll call that Guskz Statement OPHS -- Outer Planets Higher Speeds). More energy always means more speed (we'll call this Guskz Statement AEIK -- All energy is kinetic). The answer to all of these is "no it isn't" but let me show you why OPHS is wrong. Here's some orbital calculations. A planet around a sun of mass M at distance R obeys GM/R^2 = v^2/R v = sqrt(GM/R) So as R increases, v decreases. If R doubles, v decreases by sqrt(2). A little more data for you: Orbital speed of Mercury = 59 km/sec Orbital speed of earth = 29.8 km/sec Orbital speed of Mars = 24.1 km/sec Orbital speed of Jupiter = 13.1 km/sec - Randy |
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On Jun 23, 1:13 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jun 23, 2:05 am, " wrote: Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. http://resources.yesican-science.ca/...l/index_em_mat... QUOTE: "Since energy is always conserved, the kinetic energy of the ejected electron, its binding (orbital) energy, and the new photon energy all add up to the quantum energy of the original incident photon." You have at least three serious repeating misconceptions rolled up in this one: Electrons in atoms are in little planetary orbits. (We'll call that Guskz Statement EAKO -- Electrons in Atoms, Keplerian Orbits). Planets in higher orbits have faster speeds (we'll call that Guskz Statement OPHS -- Outer Planets Higher Speeds). More energy always means more speed (we'll call this Guskz Statement AEIK -- All energy is kinetic). actually this is not his fault tha top sciencists in their paper often confuse and represents atom energy level increase and decays by depicting electrons transitions to/from difrent orbits The answer to all of these is "no it isn't" but let me show you why OPHS is wrong. Here's some orbital calculations. A planet around a sun of mass M at distance R obeys GM/R^2 = v^2/R v = sqrt(GM/R) So as R increases, v decreases. If R doubles, v decreases by sqrt(2). A little more data for you: Orbital speed of Mercury = 59 km/sec Orbital speed of earth = 29.8 km/sec Orbital speed of Mars = 24.1 km/sec Orbital speed of Jupiter = 13.1 km/sec - Randy |
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"Randy Poe" wrote in message oups.com... : On Jun 23, 2:05 am, " wrote: : Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation : emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. : : No, it isn't. Yes, it is. |
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"Randy Poe" wrote in message oups.com... : On Jun 23, 2:05 am, " wrote: : Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation : emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. : : http://resources.yesican-science.ca/...l/index_em_mat... : : QUOTE: "Since energy is always conserved, the kinetic energy of the : ejected electron, its binding (orbital) energy, and the new photon : energy all add up to the quantum energy of the original incident : photon." : : : You have at least three serious repeating misconceptions rolled : up in this one: You have at least three serious repeating misconceptions wide open to the world. The first one is "Buses take longer to stop than cars". |
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On Jun 23, 2:45 am, "Sue..." wrote:
On Jun 23, 3:05 am, " wrote: Below the conservation of enery does not include any radiation emission, yet the electron is being accelerated. http://resources.yesican-science.ca/...l/index_em_mat... QUOTE: "Since energy is always conserved, the kinetic energy of the ejected electron, its binding (orbital) energy, and the new photon energy all add up to the quantum energy of the original incident photon." Where is the word accelerate found on that page? Sue... Now now Sue....no one likes to be pointed out making an error (especially in this...."newsgroup" with the Eric Gisses smurking around). But I now if you think twice about you will see your "little" error....... (just in case (I also make similar mistakes)....it wouldn't be part of the CONSERVATION equation if the velocity of the electron was not affected) |
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On Jun 23, 4:44 am, Eric Gisse wrote:
On Jun 22, 10:05 pm, " wrote: [...] Why don't you stop worrying about advanced subjects and master the basics first? Why don't you read newsgroup posts instead of insulting everyone. Hint: go back 4 years ago and you did not do this. You lost faith in me, after the effort excerted over my hammer and magnet story. When lost of faith occurs people stop listening (or reading) even to the one above. |
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