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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation

QUOTE:

" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."

Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.

BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding space
charge electron bunches)..


Once again:

The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Jun 10, 2:04 pm, " wrote:
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Why even try? I don't care.


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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Jun 10, 7:04 pm, " wrote:
Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:

************************************************** ****************

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation

QUOTE:

" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."

Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.

BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding space
charge electron bunches)..


Figure 5 is a similar depiction for the case in
which an impulse has been applied to
the charge, and the charge is observed in
Minkowski spacetime to continue in uniform motion
following the impulse. Here the circles lie on a
straight line, indicating that the particle travels
at a constant speed following the impulse. Note
that it is the average motion of the charge
that moves uniformly. Deviations about the average
motion are apparent and are, in fact,
zitterbewegung driven by the ZPF.
http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0205086v2

Sue...




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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default Synchrotron Radiation

Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:

************************************************** ****************


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation


QUOTE:


" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-
exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."


Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.


BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they
are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding
space
charge electron bunches)..


Once again:


The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS

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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Jun 10, 2:46 pm, " wrote:
[snip crap]

Didn't read this either.

Keep reposting - I will just laugh at you.

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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Jun 10, 6:04 pm, " wrote:
Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ


I am having a psychic flash. I predict that this post will
contain a misreading of something Eric said, and include a
"refutation" consisting of a misreading of some online
article which in fact agrees with Eric.

And now let's open the envelope...

therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:

************************************************** ****************

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation

QUOTE:

" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."


Yes, accelerated electrons emit synchrotron radiation.

Yes, electron beams spread apart because of Coulomb repulsion
(like charges repel) and so the beams need to be continually
refocused.

Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.

BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches


What? The change of direction of the electrons is not due to
the change of direction of the electron?

"Bending of the beam" is the same as "changing the direction
of the beam". It's a synonym.

but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding space
charge electron bunches)..


They are moving in circles, but the orbits also spread
out. Each individual electron, without the others present,
would be moving in a circle.

Once again:

The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS


[snip repeated nonsense].

The word "also" seems to be what you missed here. In addition
to the magnets bending the beam (which causes emission of
synchrotron radiation) they ALSO need to refocus the beam.

- Randy

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On Jun 10, 6:52 pm, Eric Gisse wrote:
On Jun 10, 2:46 pm, " wrote:



Didn't read



Do not read, it is beyond your brain limit.





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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Jun 10, 6:54 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On Jun 10, 6:04 pm, " wrote:

Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ


I am having a psychic flash. I predict that this post will
contain a misreading of something Eric said, and include a
"refutation" consisting of a misreading of some online
article which in fact agrees with Eric.

And now let's open the envelope...

therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:


************************************************** ****************


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation


QUOTE:


" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."


Yes, accelerated electrons emit synchrotron radiation.

Yes, electron beams spread apart because of Coulomb repulsion
(like charges repel) and so the beams need to be continually
refocused.

Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.


BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches


What? The change of direction of the electrons is not due to
the change of direction of the electron?

"Bending of the beam" is the same as "changing the direction
of the beam". It's a synonym.


HOWDY RANDY!!!!

Re-Quote from above: "...magnets also need to repeatedly recompress
the Coulomb-exploding space charge electron bunches."


No, the bending magnets only slightly change the direction (say .001
degree)from linear into the curvature of the synchrotron's ring.

The "D" and "F" are seperated quadrupole magnets; as they each
compress along "only" one direction (say Nrth & Sth), they cause the
beam to spit-out (scatter-out)in the opposite direction by as much as
*****90 degrees***** and this is what causes the noticable radiation
in the ring....*****NOT THE BENDING*****.

By re-compressing each time you are changing the direction of a
scattered beam by as much as 90 degrees (= higher deceleration =
radiation emission) which is more significant then the .001 degrees
deviation from the bending magnets.















but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding space
charge electron bunches)..


They are moving in circles, but the orbits also spread
out. Each individual electron, without the others present,
would be moving in a circle.

Once again:


The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS


[snip repeated nonsense].

The word "also" seems to be what you missed here. In addition
to the magnets bending the beam (which causes emission of
synchrotron radiation) they ALSO need to refocus the beam.

- Randy



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On Jun 10, 6:28 pm, "Sue..." wrote:
On Jun 10, 7:04 pm, " wrote:





Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:


************************************************** ****************


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation


QUOTE:


" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."


Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.


BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding space
charge electron bunches)..


Figure 5 is a similar depiction for the case


very similar in fact go generate syncrotron radiation with it.

in
which an impulse has been applied to
the charge, and the charge is observed in
Minkowski spacetime to continue in uniform motion
following the impulse. Here the circles lie on a
straight line, indicating that the particle travels
at a constant speed following the impulse. Note
that it is the average motion of the charge
that moves uniformly. Deviations about the average
motion are apparent and are, in fact,
zitterbewegung driven by the ZPF. http://www.arxiv.org/abs/physics/0205086v2

Sue...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -



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Old June 11th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On Jun 10, 3:04 pm, " wrote:
Some Eric Gisse(s) have thick SKULLS and CANNOT READ therefore
sometimes a little repeating is needed:

************************************************** ****************

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchrotron_radiation

QUOTE:

" The magnets also need to repeatedly recompress the Coulomb-exploding
space charge electron bunches. The change of direction is a form of
acceleration and thus the electrons emit radiation at GeV
frequencies."

Synchrotron Radiation is due to the CHANGE OF DIRECTION.

BUT BUT BUT BUT..... this CHANGE OF DIRECTION is not due to bending
the electron bunches but to re-compress (Re-Focus) them since they are
scattered (de-focused) in MULTIPLE DIRECTIONS (Coulomb-exploding space
charge electron bunches)..

Once again:

The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS
The magnets also need to repeatedly RECOMPRESS


An electron set as a bunch appears the quanta in some accelerators. A
large body radiation occurs related to the force causing the set.
Inter-electron force as the accelerator then demands a re-
excitation,i.e. a re-compression.

Excitation is recompression of the set.


It is highly odd free set radiation called the synchrotron type. The
distinction between free electrons and the single electron appears
this critical difference of force excitation effect.

A single electron can only Bremsstralung radiate.



 




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