Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...46878da7c586d1
Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."


Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).


The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

On May 27, 6:01 pm, " wrote:
Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...

Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."

Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).

The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

No debating the quote above clarifies the truth. Intensity can also
create a Single Particle pair.

On May 27, 3:01 pm, " wrote:
Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...

Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."

Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).

The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

You know that a "single particle pair" means two particles, right?

You may be forgiven if the English-language construction is
throwing you on this one. The key word is "pair". If you
are producing a "pair", that means "two". "Multiple pairs"
means many groups of two. "A single pair" means one group
of two.

- Randy

On May 28, 3:40 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On May 27, 3:01 pm, " wrote:





Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...

Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."

Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).

The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

You know that a "single particle pair" means two particles, right?

You may be forgiven if the English-language construction is
throwing you on this one. The key word is "pair". If you
are producing a "pair", that means "two". "Multiple pairs"
means many groups of two. "A single pair" means one group
of two.

- Randy-

100% Correct Randy and yet Tom Roberts said I was wrong and that
QUOTE: "MORE pairs can be produced" (from high intensity beam)

Where as Wikipedia says a high intensity beam produces, QUOTE ABOVE:
"a SINGLE particle pair."

Tom Roberts only believes a particle pair can be produce by only
***TWO*** photons instead of a multiple of photons.
He said that multiple photons must produce multiple pairs....=
Incorrect they can produce a SINGLE pair as quoted from Wikipedia
above here.

Wikipedia (not me) says the important ingredient be that the INTENTITY
(and not the energy of two photons only) be higher than the rest mast
of the particle pair to be created.

I have yet to receive an apology from Tom Roberts, which would be the
mature behavior.

On May 28, 12:40 pm, Randy Poe wrote:

[...]

Please stop giving the idiot child any more attention....

On May 28, 1:09 pm, " wrote:
On May 28, 3:40 pm, Randy Poe wrote:



On May 27, 3:01 pm, " wrote:

Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...

Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."

Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).

The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

You know that a "single particle pair" means two particles, right?

You may be forgiven if the English-language construction is
throwing you on this one. The key word is "pair". If you
are producing a "pair", that means "two". "Multiple pairs"
means many groups of two. "A single pair" means one group
of two.

- Randy-

100% Correct Randy and yet Tom Roberts said I was wrong and that
QUOTE: "MORE pairs can be produced" (from high intensity beam)

Where as Wikipedia says a high intensity beam produces, QUOTE ABOVE:
"a SINGLE particle pair."

Tom Roberts only believes a particle pair can be produce by only
***TWO*** photons instead of a multiple of photons.
He said that multiple photons must produce multiple pairs....=
Incorrect they can produce a SINGLE pair as quoted from Wikipedia
above here.

Wikipedia (not me) says the important ingredient be that the INTENTITY
(and not the energy of two photons only) be higher than the rest mast
of the particle pair to be created.

By "intensity" they mean "energy".

I have yet to receive an apology from Tom Roberts, which would be the
mature behavior.

Why? He's right and you're wrong.

- Randy

On May 28, 4:24 pm, Eric Gisse wrote:
On May 28, 12:40 pm, Randy Poe wrote:

Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the
energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...



Tommy wrote:


"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:


PROOF:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."


Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).


The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

On May 28, 5:45 pm, Randy Poe wrote:
On May 28, 1:09 pm, " wrote:





On May 28, 3:40 pm, Randy Poe wrote:

On May 27, 3:01 pm, " wrote:

Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...

Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."

Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).

The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

You know that a "single particle pair" means two particles, right?

You may be forgiven if the English-language construction is
throwing you on this one. The key word is "pair". If you
are producing a "pair", that means "two". "Multiple pairs"
means many groups of two. "A single pair" means one group
of two.

- Randy-

100% Correct Randy and yet Tom Roberts said I was wrong and that
QUOTE: "MORE pairs can be produced" (from high intensity beam)

Where as Wikipedia says a high intensity beam produces, QUOTE ABOVE:
"a SINGLE particle pair."

Tom Roberts only believes a particle pair can be produce by only
***TWO*** photons instead of a multiple of photons.
He said that multiple photons must produce multiple pairs....=
Incorrect they can produce a SINGLE pair as quoted from Wikipedia
above here.

Wikipedia (not me) says the important ingredient be that the INTENTITY
(and not the energy of two photons only) be higher than the rest mast
of the particle pair to be created.

By "intensity" they mean "energy".

Intensity and frequency both mean energy (higher energy), but both
Intensity and Temperature of a light beam means multiple photons (the
higher the intensity or temperature then the more photons in the beam
and NOT THE MORE ENERGY PER PHOTON).

Even Tom Roberts ****agrees with me**** on that,his words on this
subject are quote from above: "Higher intensity means more photons in
the beam"


I have yet to receive an apology from Tom Roberts, which would be the
mature behavior.

Why? He's right and you're wrong.

Please read carefully below:

Tom Roberts says multiple photons (or higher intensity or temperature)
***ONLY*** can create ***mutilple**** particle pairs, where as
Wikipedia(not me) says that multiple photons (intensity/temperatature)
can create a ***SINGLE pair*** (pair is NOT PLURAL).

Tom believe a single pair can only be created by ONLY two photons and
never multiple photons where as Wikipedia (not me) says the opposite.

On May 28, 2:54 pm, " wrote:
On May 28, 4:24 pm, Eric Gisse wrote: On May 28, 12:40 pm, Randy Poe wrote:

Tom Roberts doesn't believe that:

You are misunderstanding
- what I said
- what you read
- what Roberts said
- what everybody else says to you.

Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)

No, photon intensity does not mean "multiple photons".

also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair.

No, intensity does not create pairs.

(He thinks that the
energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

That is correct, and it's what you read.

at http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/6146878da7c...

Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."

Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).

Yes, that statement occurs in that article.


The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.

That statement does not occur in that article.

- Randy

On 2007-05-27, , pathetic troll

Not only were you wrong, you keep finding new ways to be wrong.


Tom Roberts doesn't believe that: Photon INTENSITY (multiple photons)
also creates SINGLE electron/positron pair. (He thinks that the energy
of only two individual photons can do this)

at http://groups.google.com/gro
up/sci.physics.relativity/msg/6146878da7c586d1
Tommy wrote:

"That is completely independent of the intensity of the beams, and
depends only on the energies of the individual photons in the beams.
Higher intensity means more photons in the beam, and that implies
that
IF the photons are above threshold then MORE pairs can be produced. "

Wrong read below:

PROOF:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_creation
Quote:"....the energy (temperature) of photons must obviously exceed
the rest mass energy of the given matter particle pair."


Particle PAIR and not PAIRS (plural).


The required Energy above is that of the Temperature (INTENSITY of
MULTIPLE PHOTONS and not the energy of only two photons) must exceed
the rest mass of the SINGLE particle pair.