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The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause



 
 
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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Nick
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train. That is why there is no paradox. The cause of all
SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone; nothing else.

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FELL --

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Jeckyl
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

"Nick" wrote in message
ps.com...
The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train.


Yes it does .. unless you claim there is an absolute 'aether' reference
frame. In any case, a station on earth would be moving wrt to that frame
(so it does move through space .. it just moves with the earth)

That is why there is no paradox.


There was no paradox to start with

The cause of all SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone;
nothing else.


Really .. so you are in the Lorentz 'aether' camp?


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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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On May 3, 9:10 pm, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message

ps.com...

The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train.


Yes it does .. unless you claim there is an absolute 'aether' reference
frame. In any case, a station on earth would be moving wrt to that frame
(so it does move through space .. it just moves with the earth)

That is why there is no paradox.


There was no paradox to start with

The cause of all SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone;
nothing else.


Really .. so you are in the Lorentz 'aether' camp?




No, This guy is a well know autistic troll, he is in the imbecile
camp, you can ignore him.

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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

On May 4, 6:10 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message

ps.com...

The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train.


Yes it does ..


but tha train initiated tha motion between tha two, not tha station

unless you claim there is an absolute 'aether' reference
frame. In any case, a station on earth would be moving wrt to that frame
(so it does move through space .. it just moves with the earth)

That is why there is no paradox.


There was no paradox to start with

The cause of all SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone;
nothing else.


Really .. so you are in the Lorentz 'aether' camp?



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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

On May 3, 9:03 pm, Nick wrote:
The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train. That is why there is no paradox. The cause of all
SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone; nothing else.

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FELL --


2005 called, it wants its' spewing idiot back.

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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

On May 3, 9:18 pm, reproductor wrote:
On May 4, 6:10 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:

"Nick" wrote in message


ups.com...


The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train.


Yes it does ..


but tha train initiated tha motion between tha two, not tha station



unless you claim there is an absolute 'aether' reference
frame. In any case, a station on earth would be moving wrt to that frame
(so it does move through space .. it just moves with the earth)


That is why there is no paradox.


There was no paradox to start with


The cause of all SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone;
nothing else.


Really .. so you are in the Lorentz 'aether' camp?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -



HOW DOES THE TRAIN MAKE THE STATION MOVE THROUGH SPACE?

MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FELL --


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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

On May 4, 6:24 am, Nick wrote:
On May 3, 9:18 pm, reproductor wrote:



On May 4, 6:10 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:


"Nick" wrote in message


ups.com...


The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train.


Yes it does ..


but tha train initiated tha motion between tha two, not tha station


unless you claim there is an absolute 'aether' reference
frame. In any case, a station on earth would be moving wrt to that frame
(so it does move through space .. it just moves with the earth)


That is why there is no paradox.


There was no paradox to start with


The cause of all SRelativistic effects is motion through space alone;
nothing else.


Really .. so you are in the Lorentz 'aether' camp?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


HOW DOES THE TRAIN MAKE THE STATION MOVE THROUGH SPACE?


right, it cant

thay say that tha station start moving by itself,
instantaneously with the train, which is an imposibility



MITCH RAEMSCH -- LIGHT FELL --



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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

"reproductor" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 4, 6:10 am, "Jeckyl" wrote:
"Nick" wrote in message

ps.com...

The station does not move through space to get any closer to the
train.


Yes it does ..


but tha train initiated tha motion between tha two, not tha station


Irrelevant


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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Jeckyl
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Default The station moves to the train? Relativity's Cause

"Nick" wrote in message
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HOW DOES THE TRAIN MAKE THE STATION MOVE THROUGH SPACE?


What space .. you talk about it as though it is some fixed medium.

The train moves through "space" as much as the train does .. indeed from a
FoR of the sun, both the train and station are moving through space around
the sun, as well as rotating with the earth. It just depends on your point
of view.


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Old May 4th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"reproductor" wrote in message
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On May 4, 6:24 am, Nick wrote:
HOW DOES THE TRAIN MAKE THE STATION MOVE THROUGH SPACE?

right, it cant


How does the station make the train move?

Neither makes the other move, that are simple moving relative to each other

thay say that tha station start moving by itself,
instantaneously with the train, which is an imposibility


You mean a reality.


 




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