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The most advanced theory of "life after death" is the
Christian theory.... namely the theory advanced by St. Paul in I Corinthians Ch. 15 verses 35-58. There St. Paul theorizes that when we die we go into a sort of "death dream" and a "spiritual body" in this (all 5-senses) dream thereby survives our death and that the PURPOSE of this afterlife dream to achieve the "beautific vision"- the vision of heaven (sometimes called "seeing God") and which is in fact, the achievementof the bodily condition of "eternal life", so called. The historical scientific criticism of this theory is of course the argument that "a dead brain can't dream" so therefore, if you died suddenly... such as having your head blown off by a cannon ball in a millisecond... how could you possible have this "post mortem 5-sense dream of heaven"? Recently however, Hammond (1997) has published the discovery that the ordinary (historical) phenomenon of "God" is in fact a SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC effect... that the "invisible world" of theology (aka "Heaven") is actually occasioned by the Secular Trend Human Growth Deficit of the human body, particularly of the brain, where it causes "subjective spacetime" to be a CURVED VERSION of "objective spacetime". According to Hammond this causes the world we actually see to be "bigger and faster" than the "objective" (standard) world that "physics" sees. Be that as it may, the mere fact that the phenomenon of "God" has now been proven to be "Relativistic" has now shed additional light on the age old Christian theory of Life After Death. (Note, while Hammond has proven that God exists and is be measured to 2 decimal place accuracy, the theory of Life After Death still remains an unproven theory) Fact is, Hammond has now eliminated the long standing dilemma that "dead brains can't dream". According to Hammond's theory it is possible that St. Paul's "terminal dream" could actually be a sudden readout of a stored up (lifelong precomputed and stored) dream that is "suddenly downloaded" by the brain- probably at optical frequencies in the hollow microtubules of the neurons (see Penrose _Shadows of the Mind_, Ch. 7, 1994*) just before death-, at the "last instant" just as St. Paul predicts. However, the subjective experience of this "afterlife dream" is ENORMOUSLY TIME DILATED (gamma = 10^10 or more) so that even though the dream is downloaded in a split second.. it is time dilated out into years! Naturally of course it would APPEAR to the bereaved survivors that the patient "died suddenly in a few seconds"... but subjectively to the dearly departed... he would observe that he lived on in heaven for years.... and thus the origin of the phrase "life after death" is actually seen to be a simple case of "Relativistic loss of simultaneity". In fact the Afterlife it is NOT life after death... it is actually life BEFORE death which is time dilated so it ONLY APPEARS to occur "after death". THUS, Hammond with his discovery of the relativistic explanation (e.g. proof) of the existence of God... may very well have also solved the FINAL CHRISTIAN MYSTERY... the mystery of "life after death"! ======================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== |
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On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:42:34 GMT, George Hammond
wrote: The most advanced theory of "life after death" is the Christian theory.... namely the theory advanced by St. Paul in I Corinthians Ch. 15 verses 35-58. There St. Paul theorizes that when we die we go into a sort of "death dream" and a "spiritual body" in this (all 5-senses) dream thereby survives our death and that the PURPOSE of this afterlife dream to achieve the "beautific vision"- the vision of heaven (sometimes called "seeing God") and which is in fact, the achievementof the bodily condition of "eternal life", so called. The historical scientific criticism of this theory is of course the argument that "a dead brain can't dream" so therefore, if you died suddenly... such as having your head blown off by a cannon ball in a millisecond... how could you possible have this "post mortem 5-sense dream of heaven"? Recently however, Hammond (1997) has published the discovery that the ordinary (historical) phenomenon of "God" is in fact a SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC effect... that the "invisible world" of theology (aka "Heaven") is actually occasioned by the Secular Trend Human Growth Deficit of the human body, particularly of the brain, where it causes "subjective spacetime" to be a CURVED VERSION of "objective spacetime". According to Hammond this causes the world we actually see to be "bigger and faster" than the "objective" (standard) world that "physics" sees. Be that as it may, the mere fact that the phenomenon of "God" has now been proven to be "Relativistic" has now shed additional light on the age old Christian theory of Life After Death. (Note, while Hammond has proven that God exists and is be measured to 2 decimal place accuracy, the theory of Life After Death still remains an unproven theory) Fact is, Hammond has now eliminated the long standing dilemma that "dead brains can't dream". According to Hammond's theory it is possible that St. Paul's "terminal dream" could actually be a sudden readout of a stored up (lifelong precomputed and stored) dream that is "suddenly downloaded" by the brain- probably at optical frequencies in the hollow microtubules of the neurons (see Penrose _Shadows of the Mind_, Ch. 7, 1994*) just before death-, at the "last instant" just as St. Paul predicts. However, the subjective experience of this "afterlife dream" is ENORMOUSLY TIME DILATED (gamma = 10^10 or more) so that even though the dream is downloaded in a split second.. it is time dilated out into years! Naturally of course it would APPEAR to the bereaved survivors that the patient "died suddenly in a few seconds"... but subjectively to the dearly departed... he would observe that he lived on in heaven for years.... and thus the origin of the phrase "life after death" is actually seen to be a simple case of "Relativistic loss of simultaneity". In fact the Afterlife it is NOT life after death... it is actually life BEFORE death which is time dilated so it ONLY APPEARS to occur "after death". THUS, Hammond with his discovery of the relativistic explanation (e.g. proof) of the existence of God... may very well have also solved the FINAL CHRISTIAN MYSTERY... the mystery of "life after death"! ======================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== |
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On May 1, 6:16 pm, George Hammond wrote:
The most advanced theory of "life after death" is the Christian theory.... namely the theory advanced by St. Paul in I Corinthians Ch. 15 verses 35-58. There St. Paul theorizes that when we die we go into a sort of "death dream" and a "spiritual body" in this (all 5-senses) dream thereby survives our death and that the PURPOSE of this afterlife dream to achieve the "beautific vision"- the vision of heaven (sometimes called "seeing God") and which is in fact, the achievementof the bodily condition of "eternal life", so called. The historical scientific criticism of this theory is of course the argument that "a dead brain can't dream" so therefore, if you died suddenly... such as having your head blown off by a cannon ball in a millisecond... how could you possible have this "post mortem 5-sense dream of heaven"? Recently however, Hammond (1997) has published the discovery that the ordinary (historical) phenomenon of "God" is in fact a SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC effect... that the "invisible world" of theology (aka "Heaven") is actually occasioned by the Secular Trend Human Growth Deficit of the human body, particularly of the brain, where it causes "subjective spacetime" to be a CURVED VERSION of "objective spacetime". According to Hammond this causes the world we actually see to be "bigger and faster" than the "objective" (standard) world that "physics" sees. Be that as it may, the mere fact that the phenomenon of "God" has now been proven to be "Relativistic" has now shed additional light on the age old Christian theory of Life After Death. (Note, while Hammond has proven that God exists and is be measured to 2 decimal place accuracy, the theory of Life After Death still remains an unproven theory) Fact is, Hammond has now eliminated the long standing dilemma that "dead brains can't dream". According to Hammond's theory it is possible that St. Paul's "terminal dream" could actually be a sudden readout of a stored up (lifelong precomputed and stored) dream that is "suddenly downloaded" by the brain- probably at optical frequencies in the hollow microtubules of the neurons (see Penrose _Shadows of the Mind_, Ch. 7, 1994*) just before death-, at the "last instant" just as St. Paul predicts. However, the subjective experience of this "afterlife dream" is ENORMOUSLY TIME DILATED (gamma = 10^10 or more) so that even though the dream is downloaded in a split second.. it is time dilated out into years! Naturally of course it would APPEAR to the bereaved survivors that the patient "died suddenly in a few seconds"... but subjectively to the dearly departed... he would observe that he lived on in heaven for years.... and thus the origin of the phrase "life after death" is actually seen to be a simple case of "Relativistic loss of simultaneity". In fact the Afterlife it is NOT life after death... it is actually life BEFORE death which is time dilated so it ONLY APPEARS to occur "after death". THUS, Hammond with his discovery of the relativistic explanation (e.g. proof) of the existence of God... may very well have also solved the FINAL CHRISTIAN MYSTERY... the mystery of "life after death"! ======================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== What is Zorgaborg Philosophy? And what is its relation to the above information? Does anyone know? Does anyone care? Where do the Zorgaborgs come from? What do they think? What is a Zorgaborg? Are you one? http://groups.google.com/group/zorgaborg zorgaborg |
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Why does it matter if one individual brain survives in some form to be
able to dream? The fact that numerous other virtually identical brains survive (in the ordinary sense) should be enough. Further the fact that in an infinite universe there will be another set of virually identical brains in some other galaxy or independent quantum fluctuation (ie "big bang") means that you need no longer obsess about dying and non existence. (Unless you believe in a unique soul and that there is some function not caused by the physical properties of the brain) On May 1, 1:46�pm, George Hammond wrote: On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:42:34 GMT, George Hammond wrote: * *The most advanced theory of "life after death" is the Christian theory.... namely the theory advanced by St. Paul in I Corinthians Ch. 15 verses 35-58. *There St. Paul theorizes that when we die we go into a sort of "death dream" and a "spiritual body" in this (all 5-senses) dream thereby survives our death and that the PURPOSE of this afterlife dream to achieve the "beautific vision"- the vision of heaven (sometimes called "seeing God") and which is in fact, the achievementof the bodily condition of "eternal life", so called. * *The historical scientific criticism of this theory is of course the argument that "a dead brain can't dream" so therefore, if you died suddenly... such as having your head blown off by a cannon ball in a millisecond... how could you possible have this "post mortem 5-sense dream of heaven"? * *Recently however, Hammond (1997) has published the discovery that the ordinary (historical) phenomenon of "God" is in fact a SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC effect... that the "invisible world" of theology (aka "Heaven") is actually occasioned by the Secular Trend Human Growth Deficit of the human body, particularly of the brain, where it causes "subjective spacetime" to be a CURVED VERSION of "objective spacetime". *According to Hammond this causes the world we actually see to be "bigger and faster" than the "objective" (standard) *world that "physics" sees. * *Be that as it may, the mere fact that the phenomenon of "God" has now been proven to be "Relativistic" has now shed additional light on the age old Christian theory of Life After Death. *(Note, while Hammond has proven that God exists and is be measured to 2 decimal place accuracy, the theory of Life After Death still remains an unproven theory) Fact is, Hammond has now eliminated the long standing dilemma that "dead brains can't dream". *According to Hammond's theory it is possible that St. Paul's "terminal dream" could actually be a sudden readout of a stored up (lifelong precomputed and stored) dream that is "suddenly downloaded" by the brain- probably at optical frequencies in the hollow microtubules of the neurons (see Penrose _Shadows of the Mind_, Ch. 7, 1994*) just before death-, at the "last instant" just as St. Paul predicts. *However, the subjective experience of this "afterlife dream" is ENORMOUSLY TIME DILATED *(gamma = 10^10 or more) so that even though the dream is downloaded in a split second.. it is time dilated out into years! *Naturally of course it would APPEAR to the bereaved survivors that the patient "died suddenly in a few seconds"... but subjectively to the dearly departed... he would observe that he lived on in heaven for years.... and thus the origin of the phrase "life after death" is actually seen to be a simple case of "Relativistic loss of simultaneity". *In fact the Afterlife it is NOT life after death... it is actually life BEFORE death which is time dilated so it ONLY APPEARS to occur "after death". * *THUS, Hammond with his discovery of the relativistic explanation (e.g. proof) of the existence of God... may very well have also solved the FINAL CHRISTIAN MYSTERY... the mystery of "life after death"! * ======================================== * * *SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE *http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god * *mirror site: *http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com * * * GOD=G_uv * (a folk song on mp3) *http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== |
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On 1 May 2007 16:43:45 -0700, Rushtown
wrote: Why does it matter if one individual brain survives in some form to be able to dream? [Hammond] If one brain does it then they all do, obviously. Remember, it is a simple law of physics (the finite speed of light) that the FASTEST SPEED WITH WHICH A PERSON CAN DIE IS ONE-NANOSECOND. The reason for this is because that is the time it would take the fastest thing in the world (light) to cross your brain from ear to ear (a lethal burst of Gamma rays from an H-Bomb for instance). THEREFORE in order to guarantee that one will see life after death.... the "death dream" time dilation must be sufficient to dilate ONE NANOSECOND into at least ONE MINUTE (say), and that is a time dilation of around 10^10 which is the figure I quoted in my original post. This assumes that ONE MINUTE OF THE BEAUTIFIC VISION would be sufficient to, as one famous preacher put it: "Ay, one short glimpse, one transitory vision of his glory, one brief glance at his exalted and beaming countenance, would repay a lifetime of trouble." Actually however, my suspicion is that Life After Death (if it exists) is around 7.5 years for the average person. This is calculated from the Secular Trend Growth Deficit which is known to be about, say, 10% on average for Humans. Since a normal Lifetime is 75 years, then the theoretical shortfall is about 7.5 years... which I estimate to be the average length of the Afterlife experience so called. Thus the worst case time dilation may have to be as large as 10^14 . As I pointed out the ratio of optical frequency to neuranal firing frequency is about 10^11 or 10^12 which is in the right ball park. wrote: he most advanced theory of "life after death" is the Christian theory.... namely the theory advanced by St. Paul in I Corinthians Ch. 15 verses 35-58. here St. Paul theorizes that when we die we go into a sort of "death dream" and a "spiritual body" in this (all 5-senses) dream thereby survives our death and that the PURPOSE of this afterlife dream to achieve the "beautific vision"- the vision of heaven (sometimes called "seeing God") and which is in fact, the achievementof the bodily condition of "eternal life", so called. he historical scientific criticism of this theory is of course the argument that "a dead brain can't dream" so therefore, if you died suddenly... such as having your head blown off by a cannon ball in a millisecond... how could you possible have this "post mortem 5-sense dream of heaven"? ecently however, Hammond (1997) has published the discovery that the ordinary (historical) phenomenon of "God" is in fact a SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC effect... that the "invisible world" of theology (aka "Heaven") is actually occasioned by the Secular Trend Human Growth Deficit of the human body, particularly of the brain, where it causes "subjective spacetime" to be a CURVED VERSION of "objective spacetime". ccording to Hammond this causes the world we actually see to be "bigger and faster" than the "objective" (standard) 7orld that "physics" sees. e that as it may, the mere fact that the phenomenon of "God" has now been proven to be "Relativistic" has now shed additional light on the age old Christian theory of Life After Death. (Note, while Hammond has proven that God exists and is be measured to 2 decimal place accuracy, the theory of Life After Death still remains an unproven theory) Fact is, Hammond has now eliminated the long standing dilemma that "dead brains can't dream". ccording to Hammond's theory it is possible that St. Paul's "terminal dream" could actually be a sudden readout of a stored up (lifelong precomputed and stored) dream that is "suddenly downloaded" by the brain- probably at optical frequencies in the hollow microtubules of the neurons (see Penrose _Shadows of the Mind_, Ch. 7, 1994*) just before death-, at the "last instant" just as St. Paul predicts. owever, the subjective experience of this "afterlife dream" is ENORMOUSLY TIME DILATED (gamma = 10^10 or more) so that even though the dream is downloaded in a split second.. it is time dilated out into years! aturally of course it would APPEAR to the bereaved survivors that the patient "died suddenly in a few seconds"... but subjectively to the dearly departed... he would observe that he lived on in heaven for years.... and thus the origin of the phrase "life after death" is actually seen to be a simple case of "Relativistic loss of simultaneity". n fact the Afterlife it is NOT life after death... it is actually life BEFORE death which is time dilated so it ONLY APPEARS to occur "after death". HUS, Hammond with his discovery of the relativistic explanation (e.g. proof) of the existence of God... may very well have also solved the FINAL CHRISTIAN MYSTERY... the mystery of "life after death"! ======================================== CIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE (ttp://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god -irror site: (ttp://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) (ttp://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== |
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The reason St Paul was so interested in life after death was because
he killed so many Christians before becoming one. What better way to absolve yourself of guilt than to come up with a 'Christian' theory like that. Don't forget, he spent the formative years of life as a Turkish Jew. -y |
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On 1 May 2007 18:12:27 -0700, Y
wrote: The reason St Paul was so interested in life after death was because he killed so many Christians before becoming one. What better way to absolve yourself of guilt than to come up with a 'Christian' theory like that. Don't forget, he spent the formative years of life as a Turkish Jew. -y [Hammond] St. Paul was interested in Life After Death for the same reason every other Christian was.... namely that hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the Levant were whispering about the "resurrection" of Jesus of Nazareth.... so much so that it had become a political problem between the Christians and the Romans by the time St. Paul was writing I Corinthians... schmuck! ======================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== |
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On May 1, 6:54 pm, George Hammond wrote:
[...] [Hammond] returns. How was the psych ward visit? |
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On 1 May 2007 20:16:48 -0700, Eric Gisse
wrote: On May 1, 6:54 pm, George Hammond wrote: [...] [Hammond] returns. How was the psych ward visit? [Hammond] You're a schmuck Gisse. Quit posting off topic ad hominem abuse to Usenet. ========original Hammond post========== The most advanced theory of "life after death" is the Christian theory.... namely the theory advanced by St. Paul in I Corinthians Ch. 15 verses 35-58. There St. Paul theorizes that when we die we go into a sort of "death dream" and a "spiritual body" in this (all 5-senses) dream thereby survives our death and that the PURPOSE of this afterlife dream to achieve the "beautific vision"- the vision of heaven (sometimes called "seeing God") and which is in fact, the achievementof the bodily condition of "eternal life", so called. The historical scientific criticism of this theory is of course the argument that "a dead brain can't dream" so therefore, if you died suddenly... such as having your head blown off by a cannon ball in a millisecond... how could you possible have this "post mortem 5-sense dream of heaven"? Recently however, Hammond (1997) has published the discovery that the ordinary (historical) phenomenon of "God" is in fact a SIMPLE RELATIVISTIC effect... that the "invisible world" of theology (aka "Heaven") is actually occasioned by the Secular Trend Human Growth Deficit of the human body, particularly of the brain, where it causes "subjective spacetime" to be a CURVED VERSION of "objective spacetime". According to Hammond this causes the world we actually see to be "bigger and faster" than the "objective" (standard) world that "physics" sees. Be that as it may, the mere fact that the phenomenon of "God" has now been proven to be "Relativistic" has now shed additional light on the age old Christian theory of Life After Death. (Note, while Hammond has proven that God exists and is be measured to 2 decimal place accuracy, the theory of Life After Death still remains an unproven theory) Fact is, Hammond has now eliminated the long standing dilemma that "dead brains can't dream". According to Hammond's theory it is possible that St. Paul's "terminal dream" could actually be a sudden readout of a stored up (lifelong precomputed and stored) dream that is "suddenly downloaded" by the brain- probably at optical frequencies in the hollow microtubules of the neurons (see Penrose _Shadows of the Mind_, Ch. 7, 1994*) just before death-, at the "last instant" just as St. Paul predicts. However, the subjective experience of this "afterlife dream" is ENORMOUSLY TIME DILATED (gamma = 10^10 or more) so that even though the dream is downloaded in a split second.. it is time dilated out into years! Naturally of course it would APPEAR to the bereaved survivors that the patient "died suddenly in a few seconds"... but subjectively to the dearly departed... he would observe that he lived on in heaven for years.... and thus the origin of the phrase "life after death" is actually seen to be a simple case of "Relativistic loss of simultaneity". In fact the Afterlife it is NOT life after death... it is actually life BEFORE death which is time dilated so it ONLY APPEARS to occur "after death". THUS, Hammond with his discovery of the relativistic explanation (e.g. proof) of the existence of God... may very well have also solved the FINAL CHRISTIAN MYSTERY... the mystery of "life after death"! ======================================== SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD WEBSITE http://geocities.com/scientific_proof_of_god mirror site: http://proof-of-god.freewebsitehosting.com GOD=G_uv (a folk song on mp3) http://interrobang.jwgh.org/songs/hammond.mp3 ======================================== |
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On May 1, 7:36 pm, George Hammond wrote:
On 1 May 2007 20:16:48 -0700, Eric Gisse wrote: On May 1, 6:54 pm, George Hammond wrote: [...] [Hammond] returns. How was the psych ward visit? [Hammond] You're a schmuck Gisse. Quit posting off topic ad hominem abuse to Usenet. I'm in your killfile - why are you replying to me? [...] |
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