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EINSTEIN CONFUSES EINSTEINIANS



 
 
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Old April 24th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.logic
Pentcho Valev
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A. Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 22: "...the special theory of
relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its results
hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

Einsteinians often worship and repeat this thought but they also want
to develop it. They imagine a celestial body sending light and since
initially the light moves in a gravitational field, its speed varies
with position and an observer would measure it to be less than
c=299792km/s. The light moves on, the gravitational field decreases
and the speed of the light continues to vary with position, that is,
to decrease, as Einstein has said. What a genius is this Divine
Albert! In the end the field becomes zero, the speed of light stops
decreasing and remains less than.....Oh no! No, no, no and no! The
observer there is INERTIAL and therefore the speed of light can only
be c=299792km/s! After declaring this Einsteinians look for sand,
stick their heads and expose other parts of their bodies. The
development of Einstein's thought is postponed.

Pentcho Valev

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Old April 25th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.logic
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
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A. Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 22: "...the special theory of
relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its results
hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

Einsteinians often worship and repeat this thought but they also want
to develop it. They imagine a celestial body sending light and since
initially the light moves in a gravitational field, its speed varies
with position and an observer would measure it to be less than
c=299792km/s.


It depends on which observer...

The light moves on, the gravitational field decreases
and the speed of the light continues to vary with position, that is,
to decrease, as Einstein has said.


Oh no, you have it the wrong way round! Thus it's more appropriate to title
this "confused anti-Einsteinian"...

Harald

What a genius is this Divine
Albert! In the end the field becomes zero, the speed of light stops
decreasing and remains less than.....Oh no! No, no, no and no! The
observer there is INERTIAL and therefore the speed of light can only
be c=299792km/s! After declaring this Einsteinians look for sand,
stick their heads and expose other parts of their bodies. The
development of Einstein's thought is postponed.

Pentcho Valev



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Old April 25th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.logic
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
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A. Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 22: "...the special theory of
relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its results
hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

Einsteinians often worship and repeat this thought but they also want
to develop it. They imagine a celestial body sending light and since
initially the light moves in a gravitational field, its speed varies
with position and an observer would measure it to be less than
c=299792km/s.


It depends on which observer...


The observer is Einstein, ****head. He's the tord that says "us" and includes you.

"In short, let *us* assume that the simple law of the constancy of the velocity of light c (in vacuum) is justifiably believed by the child at school. Who would imagine that this simple law has plunged the conscientiously thoughtful physicist into the greatest intellectual difficulties? Let *us* consider how these difficulties arise."

"The law of the propagation of light in vacuo would then have to be replaced by a more complicated law conformable to the principle of relativity. "

Tough beans, Einstein. The more complicated law conformable to the principle of relativity is w = c-v.


"Prominent theoretical physicists were therefore more inclined to reject the principle of relativity"

Prominent ****heads, more like.
http://www.bartleby.com/173/7.html


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Old April 26th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech,sci.logic
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On Apr 24, 8:43 am, Pentcho Valev wrote:
A. Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 22: "...the special theory of
relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its results
hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

Einsteinians often worship and repeat this thought but they also want
to develop it. They imagine a celestial body sending light and since
initially the light moves in a gravitational field, its speed varies
with position and an observer would measure it to be less than
c=299792km/s. The light moves on, the gravitational field decreases
and the speed of the light continues to vary with position, that is,
to decrease, as Einstein has said. What a genius is this Divine
Albert! In the end the field becomes zero, the speed of light stops
decreasing and remains less than.....Oh no! No, no, no and no! The
observer there is INERTIAL and therefore the speed of light can only
be c=299792km/s! After declaring this Einsteinians look for sand,
stick their heads and expose other parts of their bodies. The
development of Einstein's thought is postponed.

Pentcho Valev


In criticizing Einstein, you must presume that he liked you enough
also, to have presented his ideas, and all of his ideas, in a form
that you can understand.

You may struggle through the theory that he presented and you might
remember the end results that he derived. Such as the bending of light
near the limb of the sun, and the gravitational lensing effect of
distance galaxies that was only discovered after his death. You must
admit, if he was a crank he was a VERY lucky one.

The main point of his first paper of relativity, was to integrate the
concept of the 'inertia of energy' (which means that ALL enegy has
mass according to m = E/v^2), with very high velocities and to depose
the classical notion that light was merely waves (which QM is a
return, only with a changed concept of the aether).

The academics are never willing to admit they are wrong, even if it
means the avoidance of real science or understandings of the truth.

You don't like Einstein,,,,you shouldn't assume he liked you.

KD


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Old April 26th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech
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On Apr 24, 3:43?pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
A. Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 22: "...the special theory of
relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its results
hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

Einsteinians often worship and repeat this thought but they also want
to develop it. They imagine a celestial body sending light and since
initially the light moves in a gravitational field, its speed varies
with position and an observer would measure it to be less than
c=299792km/s. The light moves on, the gravitational field decreases
and the speed of the light continues to vary with position, that is,
to decrease, as Einstein has said. What a genius is this Divine
Albert! In the end the field becomes zero, the speed of light stops
decreasing and remains less than.....Oh no! No, no, no and no! The
observer there is INERTIAL and therefore the speed of light can only
be c=299792km/s! After declaring this Einsteinians look for sand,
stick their heads and expose other parts of their bodies. The
development of Einstein's thought is postponed.

Pentcho Valev



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Old April 26th 07 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.physics.cond-matter,sci.philosophy.tech
John Jones
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On Apr 24, 3:43?pm, Pentcho Valev wrote:
A. Einstein, "Relativity", Chapter 22: "...the special theory of
relativity cannot claim an unlimited domain of validity; its results
hold only so long as we are able to disregard the influences of
gravitational fields on the phenomena (e.g. of light)."

Einsteinians often worship and repeat this thought but they also want
to develop it. They imagine a celestial body sending light and since
initially the light moves in a gravitational field, its speed varies
with position and an observer would measure it to be less than
c=299792km/s. The light moves on, the gravitational field decreases
and the speed of the light continues to vary with position, that is,
to decrease, as Einstein has said. What a genius is this Divine
Albert! In the end the field becomes zero, the speed of light stops
decreasing and remains less than.....Oh no! No, no, no and no! The
observer there is INERTIAL and therefore the speed of light can only
be c=299792km/s! After declaring this Einsteinians look for sand,
stick their heads and expose other parts of their bodies. The
development of Einstein's thought is postponed.

Pentcho Valev



 




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