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On Apr 20, 10:51Â*pm, "Bill Hobba" wrote:
"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ups.com... http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1162 John Farrell wrote: "The anti-relativity movement got underway as soon as Einstein's first paper on special relativity was published, in 1905. Some scientists disputed its assertion that the old Newtonian concepts of absolute space and time - which had never been scientifically established - were superfluous. Indeed, the attempt to restore these concepts to mainstream physics has been the essential foundation of almost every crank theory since." Red herrings. The real problems with Einstein's relativity were formulated by Einstein himself at the end of his life: Einstein: "If the speed of light is the least bit affected by the speed of the light source, then my whole theory of relativity and theory of gravity is false." Einstein again: "I consider it quite possible that physics cannot be based on the field concept, i.e., on continuous structures. In that case, nothing remains of my entire castle in the air, gravitation theory included, [and of] the rest of modern physics." John Farrell also wrote: "Albert Michelson, famous as the American who devised the failed Michelson-Morley experiment to detect aether, the invisible medium that 19th century scientists supposed responsible for the propagation of light waves through space, never accepted relativity and he politely admitted this to Einstein when they met." Michelson had any reason not to accept relativity: http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/arch...Norton.pdfJohn Norton: "Einstein regarded the Michelson-Morley experiment as evidence for the principle of relativity, There is some evidence he was not even, or only vaguely aware of it. whereas later writers almost universally use it as support for the light postulate of special relativity Whoever wrote that obviously doesn't read modern physics texts. Â*It is usually only mentioned in passing; not as central to it. ......THE MICHELSON-MORLEY EXPERIMENT IS FULLY COMPATIBLE WITH AN EMISSION THEORY OF LIGHT THAT CONTRADICTS THE LIGHT POSTULATE." It is fully compatible with all sorts of things, including the existence of an aether. Â*People with a bit of common sense however know what it implies, just as those same people know what the evidence the earth in not flat implies, and the correct conclusion to draw about flat earth nuts, even though one can not prove it is all not one giant conspiracy like they claim. Bill Pentcho Valev- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - This from Wikipedia: CRITICISMS FROM INTERNAL CONSISTENCY--BROWNIAN MOTION AND THE RELATIVITY OF SIMULTANEITY Still another criticism has to do with the mathematics Einstein adopted in order to express special relativity. Unaware of the polemics involved in the response to Cantorian set theory, he enthusiastically embraced Poincare's approach in SCIENCE AND HYPOTHESIS. He was unaware that Poincare's goal in this book was to develop an approach to mathematics which would "solve" or "avoid" the supposed paradoxes of set theory. The polemical position developed--now called natural mathematics (see P. Maddy, NATURALISM IN MATHEMATICS)--asserts that mathematical formulations are inherently anomalous; the evidence of this is that they generate paradoxes. Therefore, the idea that mathematics is an aspect of human perception, must be made a part of mathematical formulations even if it plays no internally consistent role in any natural mathematical formulation. According to Howard and Stachel in their recent book on Einstein's formative years (John Stachel is director of the Center for Einstein Studies at Boston University), Einstein made a âcareful readingâ of Poincare's formulation of this point of view. Poincare believed that âthe mind has a direct intuition of this power ['proof by recurrence' or 'mathematical induction'], and experiment can only be for [the mind] an opportunity of using it, and thereby of becoming conscious of it.â In geometry âwe are brought to [the concept of space] solely by studying the laws by whichâŠ[muscular] sensations succeed one another.â This idea of âsuccessionâ was vital if the âstandstillâ to which the âparadoxesâ had brought mathematics, was to be overcome. Natural mathematics gained widespread acceptance before Einstein came to it, and when he adopted its precepts, it caused him problems, even before the formulation of special relativity. As indicated in the Brown and Stachel book, it was employed in Einstin's 1905 paper on Brownian motion, with disturbing results: âEinstein begins with an assumption whose status is still problematic and troubled his contemporaries: that there exists âa time interval Ï, which shall be very small compared with observable time intervals but still so large that all motions performed by a particle during two consecutive time intervals Ï may be considered as mutually independent eventsâŠ.â As the author of this passage notes, â[t]his is essentially a very strong Markov postulate. Einstein makes no attempt to justify itâŠ.[W]here mathematics ends and physics begins is far from clearâŠ.â From here, Einstein went on to apply natural mathematics to his formulation of the relativity of simultaneity (here the geometric formulation in RELATIVITY, where its use is particularly clear): Are two events (e.g. the two strokes of lightning A and B) which are simultaneous with reference to the railway embankment also simultaneous relatively to the train? We shall show directly that the answer must be in the negative. When we say that the lightning strokes A and B are simultaneous with respect to be embankment, we mean: the rays of light emitted at the places A and B, where the lightning occurs, meet each other at the mid-point M of the length AB of the embankment. But the events A and B also correspond to positions A and B on the train. Let M1 be the mid-point of the distance AB on the traveling train. Just when the flashes (as judged from the embankment) of lightning occur, this point M1 naturally coincides with the point M but it movesâŠwith the velocityâŠof the train. The criticism is that the term ânaturally coincidesâ has no meaning and leads to logical problems. Einstein does not define it. If it is dropped, the assumption of two Cartesian coordinate systems leads to a contradictory conclusion of only one. The idea is that if two parallel coordinate systems coincide at one point, they coincide at all points and are one coordinate system, not two. So far, this criticism has not been overcome. The natural mathematics justification for the use of the term is that it âallowsâ one point to âsucceedâ another, and so permits the notion of the relativity of simultaneity to go forward. The criticism is that that does not resolve the logical problem of the use of "natural" coincidence in the argument. |
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