we are one of the exceptions to the rule. that rule being continuous
infinite zero wave space. all side bands and harmonics in quantised
space where we are are balanced somewhere else and are mutually
exclusive to our quantum space but the sum total of all things is zero.

"Shubee" skrev i en meddelelse
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On Mar 12, 4:28 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:
On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, "Shubee" wrote:



On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:
If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved
Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity
is
easy. The importance
ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally
verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure,
the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy
of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions
of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving
space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity
apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were
to
be set - that's a given.

Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.

Lorentz transformations are linear, dude.

Correct. By definition, Lorentz transformations are linear.

It is hard to have homogeneity of space and time with nonlinear
functions of both.

Nonsense. It's easy to define "nonlinear Lorentz transformations."

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm
http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee


Rubbish!!!!!

Since a Lorentz transformation by definition is linear then a non linear
transformation is not a Lorentz transformation.

John Christiansen

Shubee wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:


If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity is
easy. The importance ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure, the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were to
be set - that's a given.


Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.
Ask Tom Roberts to explain why.

Don't appoint others to defend the things you say, Shooby. Come on out
from behind your Mommy's skirt, little boy - let's hear *you* try to
explain why.


Shubee
http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee wrote:
On Mar 12, 4:28 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:

On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, "Shubee" wrote:




On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:

If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity is
easy. The importance ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure, the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were to
be set - that's a given.

Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.

Lorentz transformations are linear, dude.


Correct. By definition, Lorentz transformations are linear.


It is hard to have homogeneity of space and time with nonlinear
functions of both.


Nonsense. It's easy to define "nonlinear Lorentz transformations."


Just like it's easy to define "curved Euclidean space" - right, genius?

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm
http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee

On Mar 12, 3:45 pm, "Shubee" wrote:
On Mar 12, 4:28 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:



On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, "Shubee" wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:
If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity is
easy. The importance ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure, the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were to
be set - that's a given.

Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.

Lorentz transformations are linear, dude.

Correct. By definition, Lorentz transformations are linear.

It is hard to have homogeneity of space and time with nonlinear
functions of both.

Nonsense. It's easy to define "nonlinear Lorentz transformations."

Dude...do you even read what you write?

Read your first sentence, then read your second. They contradict
eachother.



http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee

On Mar 13, 5:27 am, "John Christiansen"
wrote:
"Shubee" skrev i en meddelelsenews:1173743133.581445.222530@j27g2000cw j.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 12, 4:28 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:
On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, "Shubee" wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:
If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved
Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity
is
easy. The importance
ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally
verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure,
the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy
of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions
of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving
space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity
apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were
to
be set - that's a given.

Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.

Lorentz transformations are linear, dude.

Correct. By definition, Lorentz transformations are linear.

It is hard to have homogeneity of space and time with nonlinear
functions of both.

Nonsense. It's easy to define "nonlinear Lorentz transformations."

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm
http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee

Rubbish!!!!!

Since a Lorentz transformation by definition is linear then a non linear
transformation is not a Lorentz transformation.

John Christiansen

Note that there are nonlinear transformations that are physically
indistinguishable from Lorentz transformations. [1]. Since they
predict the same physics, I don't see a problem calling them nonlinear
Lorentz transformations.

1. http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm

On Mar 13, 7:17 pm, "Shubee" wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:27 am, "John Christiansen"



wrote:
"Shubee" skrev i en meddelelsenews:1173743133.581445.222530@j27g2000cw j.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 12, 4:28 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:
On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, "Shubee" wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:
If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved
Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity
is
easy. The importance
ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally
verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure,
the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy
of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions
of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving
space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity
apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were
to
be set - that's a given.

Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.

Lorentz transformations are linear, dude.

Correct. By definition, Lorentz transformations are linear.

It is hard to have homogeneity of space and time with nonlinear
functions of both.

Nonsense. It's easy to define "nonlinear Lorentz transformations."

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm
http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee

Rubbish!!!!!

Since a Lorentz transformation by definition is linear then a non linear
transformation is not a Lorentz transformation.

John Christiansen

Note that there are nonlinear transformations that are physically
indistinguishable from Lorentz transformations. [1]. Since they
predict the same physics, I don't see a problem calling them nonlinear
Lorentz transformations.

1.http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm

BS, prove that T(T^-1)=I where I is the identy matrix.

On Mar 13, 6:17 pm, "Shubee" wrote:
On Mar 13, 5:27 am, "John Christiansen"



wrote:
"Shubee" skrev i en meddelelsenews:1173743133.581445.222530@j27g2000cw j.googlegroups.com...

On Mar 12, 4:28 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:
On Mar 12, 3:20 pm, "Shubee" wrote:

On Mar 12, 5:15 am, jem wrote:

Shubee wrote:
If you believe that
physics has been axiomatized, then tell me who has solved
Hilbert's
sixth problem. [1][2][3]. The axiomatization of special relativity
is
easy. The importance
ofhttp://www.everythingimportant.org/relativity/special.pdf
is the childishly simple result that all the experimentally
verified
facts of SR can be derived without postulating a group structure,
the
reciprocity principle, the relativity principle or the constancy
of
the speed of light. The paper also demonstrates nonlinear versions
of
the Lorentz transformations, which proves that the linearity
assumption can not be derived from the isotropy and homogeneity of
space and time, as Einstein mistakenly believed.

then try finding a non-linear coordinate transformation involving
space
and time, in which space and time measurements are isotropic and
homogeneous.

Please try to understand that the terms isotropy and homogeneity
apply
to geometry, and that in Minkowski space, merely resetting clocks
doesn't change its geometry.

What are you jabbering about now? Einstein specified how clocks were
to
be set - that's a given.

Your understanding of nonlinear Lorentz transformations is senseless.

Lorentz transformations are linear, dude.

Correct. By definition, Lorentz transformations are linear.

It is hard to have homogeneity of space and time with nonlinear
functions of both.

Nonsense. It's easy to define "nonlinear Lorentz transformations."

http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm
http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

Shubee

Rubbish!!!!!

Since a Lorentz transformation by definition is linear then a non linear
transformation is not a Lorentz transformation.

John Christiansen

Note that there are nonlinear transformations that are physically
indistinguishable from Lorentz transformations. [1]. Since they
predict the same physics, I don't see a problem calling them nonlinear
Lorentz transformations.

Ignorance is not an asset. Nonlinear transformations means that the
homogenity of space and time is gone. That is a bad thing.


1.http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...eneralized.htm

On Mar 13, 10:17 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:
On Mar 13, 6:17 pm, "Shubee" wrote:

Nonlinear transformations means that the
homogenity of space and time is gone.

That is only true in chimpanzee relativity. I certainly don't expect
alpha male chimps to understand that. And it's obvious that you would
have a harder time to learn that. You couldn't even figure out how
Hilbert's sixth problem relates to the axiomatization of physics [0][1]
[2][3].

If you ever evolve to the point of understanding my high school level
formulation titled, The Axiomatization of Physics - Step 1: A
Derivation of the Lorentz Transformation [4], you will then discover
your mistake.

Shubee
0. http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...7ad4b9e1b42b34
1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_problems
2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_sixth_problem
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wightman_axioms
4. http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

On Mar 14, 4:07 am, "Shubee" wrote:
On Mar 13, 10:17 pm, "Eric Gisse" wrote:

On Mar 13, 6:17 pm, "Shubee" wrote:
Nonlinear transformations means that the
homogenity of space and time is gone.

That is only true in chimpanzee relativity. I certainly don't expect
alpha male chimps to understand that. And it's obvious that you would
have a harder time to learn that. You couldn't even figure out how
Hilbert's sixth problem relates to the axiomatization of physics [0][1]
[2][3].

If you ever evolve to the point of understanding my high school level
formulation titled, The Axiomatization of Physics - Step 1: A
Derivation of the Lorentz Transformation [4], you will then discover
your mistake.

Shubee
0.http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...sg/fd7ad4b9e1b...
1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert%27s_problems
2.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_sixth_problem
3.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wightman_axioms
4.http://www.everythingimportant.org/r...ty/special.pdf

So, , prove that T(T^-1)=I where T is your "nonlinear transform
function and I is the identy matrix.
Put up or shut up.