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"Relativity and Reasonableness Tests"
Many postings to Newsgroups are from posters who have difficulty with the assertions of relativists that when tow velocities are added the resultant velocity is not the algebraic sum oof the two velocities. The conclusion is inconsistent with the reasonableness test that they are applying to the process. In their difficulty they are not wrong! What is not expressed is that the two velocities which are added are not measured with the same yardstick. Physicists failure to point out this distinction would seem to be either irresponsible behavior, a revelation of their ignorance. For the layman, there is one test that may be used to determine if one who claims to be expert truly is expert. IF ONE IS TRULY EXPSERT IN A SUBJECT HE WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO AN INTELLIGENT LAYMAN. Relativists currently fail this test and hide behind the argument that the subject can only be understood in terms of mathematics. If one examines the "yardsticks" and the "clocks" we use for the measurement of length and time needed to determine velocity, we find that the length of the "yardsticks" and the speed of the "clocks"" are controlled by the velocity of light. This occurs because matter uses that velocity to control its properties (size, stiffness, and mass). As a result, a measurement of the velocity of light must is always made in terms of the velocity of light. As a result, the velocity of light is always measured to have the same value (when measured with local unit of measurement) in every reference frame. Two intelligent men, Fitzgerald and Larmor, recognized this effect when they provided the explanation (Lorentz Transformation Aether Theory, LTAT) of the failure of the Michaelson-Morley Experiment to find our absolute velocity through space. Two years later Dr. Einstein derived this result theoretically and produced the Special Theory of Relativity - STR. (Once an intelligent man provides a solution, it does not take brilliance for others to improve on that solution. Examination shows that both of these theories are identical with LTAT being a special Case solution of STR. Under LTAT our absolute velocity though space exists but we cannot find it and under STR, because we cannot observe our absolute velocity, all considerations of an absolute reference should be abolished. This latter conclusion was falsely taken by many to mean that the possibility of an absolute reference frame was disproved. BECAUSE ONE CANNOT OBSERVE SOMETHING IS NOT PROOF THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST! The intuitive resolution of the problem of adding two relativistic velocities is readily achieved by considering three reference frames, A, B, and C, which are moving collinearly at different velocities. (See http://einsteinhoax.com/cf64.gif). If we measure the velocity of B relative to A while in reference frame A and the velocity of C relative to B while in reference frame B and add the two velocities, the sum of these velocities will be greater than the observed velocity of C as measured in A. Impossible? Not when one recognize that the velocity of C with respect to B was measured in a different reference frame (B) than was used for the measurement of the velocities of B and C with respect to A (A). The fact that a different reference frame was used for the two sets of observations means that they were made with "clocks" that differ in their speed and "yardsticks" that differ in length. Once one accepts the need to distinguish between the concepts of "invariance" and "constancy" the confusion vanishes. Relativity theory teaches that physical quantities are invariant between reference frames. This means that, when measured locally, all physical parameters yield the same values. Any change which may occur is masked by a change in the calibration of the measuring instruments. To be constant, however, a quantity must be unchanged in the absolute sense. This means that the observed measurement must be corrected by the appropriate relativistic term to determine what is actually occurring. It should be noted that converting observations to "constant" observations shows clearly the source of inertial effects and of gravitation, as shown in other postings. It is unclear whether the mystery behind Relativity results from a destruction of basic intelligence during the process of advanced education is more sinister. Has the academic community chosen to take a rather simple phenomena and make it into a mystery which only the elite may understand? The source material for this posting may be found in http://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm (1997); http://einsteinhoax.com/gravity.htm (1987); and http://einsteinhoax.com/relcor.htm (1997). EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. All of the Newsposts made by this site may be viewed at the http://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm. Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. E-mail:- . If you wish a reply, be sure that your mail reception is not blocked. The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 8 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one exception for which a correction was provided. |
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On Mar 7, 3:35 pm, "Erom" wrote:
"Relativity and Reasonableness Tests" Many postings to Newsgroups are from posters who have difficulty with the assertions of relativists that when tow velocities are added the resultant velocity is not the algebraic sum oof the two velocities. The conclusion is inconsistent with the reasonableness test that they are applying to the process. In their difficulty they are not wrong! What is not expressed is that the two velocities which are added are not measured with the same yardstick. Physicists failure to point out this distinction would seem to be either irresponsible behavior, a revelation of their ignorance. For the layman, there is one test that may be used to determine if one who claims to be expert truly is expert. IF ONE IS TRULY EXPSERT IN A SUBJECT HE WILL BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT TO AN INTELLIGENT LAYMAN. Relativists currently fail this test and hide behind the argument that the subject can only be understood in terms of mathematics. If one examines the "yardsticks" and the "clocks" we use for the measurement of length and time needed to determine velocity, we find that the length of the "yardsticks" and the speed of the "clocks"" are controlled by the velocity of light. This occurs because matter uses that velocity to control its properties (size, stiffness, and mass). As a result, a measurement of the velocity of light must is always made in terms of the velocity of light. As a result, the velocity of light is always measured to have the same value (when measured with local unit of measurement) in every reference frame. Two intelligent men, Fitzgerald and Larmor, recognized this effect when they provided the explanation (Lorentz Transformation Aether Theory, LTAT) of the failure of the Michaelson-Morley Experiment to find our absolute velocity through space. Two years later Dr. Einstein derived this result theoretically and produced the Special Theory of Relativity - STR. (Once an intelligent man provides a solution, it does not take brilliance for others to improve on that solution. Examination shows that both of these theories are identical with LTAT being a special Case solution of STR. Under LTAT our absolute velocity though space exists but we cannot find it and under STR, because we cannot observe our absolute velocity, all considerations of an absolute reference should be abolished. This latter conclusion was falsely taken by many to mean that the possibility of an absolute reference frame was disproved. BECAUSE ONE CANNOT OBSERVE SOMETHING IS NOT PROOF THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST! The intuitive resolution of the problem of adding two relativistic velocities is readily achieved by considering three reference frames, A, B, and C, which are moving collinearly at different velocities. (Seehttp://einsteinhoax.com/cf64.gif). If we measure the velocity of B relative to A while in reference frame A and the velocity of C relative to B while in reference frame B and add the two velocities, the sum of these velocities will be greater than the observed velocity of C as measured in A. Impossible? Not when one recognize that the velocity of C with respect to B was measured in a different reference frame (B) than was used for the measurement of the velocities of B and C with respect to A (A). The fact that a different reference frame was used for the two sets of observations means that they were made with "clocks" that differ in their speed and "yardsticks" that differ in length. Once one accepts the need to distinguish between the concepts of "invariance" and "constancy" the confusion vanishes. Relativity theory teaches that physical quantities are invariant between reference frames. This means that, when measured locally, all physical parameters yield the same values. Any change which may occur is masked by a change in the calibration of the measuring instruments. To be constant, however, a quantity must be unchanged in the absolute sense. This means that the observed measurement must be corrected by the appropriate relativistic term to determine what is actually occurring. It should be noted that converting observations to "constant" observations shows clearly the source of inertial effects and of gravitation, as shown in other postings. It is unclear whether the mystery behind Relativity results from a destruction of basic intelligence during the process of advanced education is more sinister. Has the academic community chosen to take a rather simple phenomena and make it into a mystery which only the elite may understand? The source material for this posting may be found inhttp://einsteinhoax.com/hoax.htm(1997);http://einsteinhoax.com/gravity.htm (1987); andhttp://einsteinhoax.com/relcor.htm(1997). EVERYTHING WHICH WE ACCEPT AS TRUE MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH EVERYTHING ELSE WE HAVE ACCEPTED AS TRUE, IT MUST BE CONSISTENT WITH ALL OBSERVATIONS, AND IT MUST BE MATHEMATICALLY VIABLE. PRESENT TEACHINGS DO NOT ALWAYS MEET THIS REQUIREMENT. THE WORLD IS ENTITLED TO A HIGHER STANDARD OF WORKMANSHIP FROM THOSE IT HAS GRANTED WORLD CLASS STATUS. All of the Newsposts made by this site may be viewed at thehttp://einsteinhoax.com/postinglog.htm. Please make any response via E-mail as Newsgroups are not monitored on a regular basis. Objective responses will be treated with the same courtesy as they are presented. To prevent the wastage of time on both of our parts, please do not raise objections that are not related to material that you have read at the Website. This posting is merely a summary. E-mail:- . If you wish a reply, be sure that your mail reception is not blocked. The material at the Website has been posted continuously for over 8 years. In that time THERE HAVE BEEN NO OBJECTIVE REBUTTALS OF ANY OF THE MATERIAL PRESENTED. There have only been hand waving arguments by individuals who have mindlessly accepted the prevailing wisdom without questioning it. If anyone provides a significant rebuttal that cannot be objectively answered, the material at the Website will be withdrawn. Challenges to date have revealed only the responder's inadequacy with one exception for which a correction was provided. On Mar 7, 3:35 pm, "Erom" wrote: "Relativity and Reasonableness Tests" xxein: " Two intelligent men, Fitzgerald and Larmor, recognized this effect when they provided the explanation (Lorentz Transformation Aether Theory, LTAT) of the failure of the Michaelson-Morley Experiment to find our absolute velocity through space. Two years later Dr. Einstein derived this result theoretically and produced the Special Theory of Relativity - STR. (Once an intelligent man provides a solution, it does not take brilliance for others to improve on that solution. Examination shows that both of these theories are identical with LTAT being a special Case solution of STR. Under LTAT our absolute velocity though space exists but we cannot find it and under STR, because we cannot observe our absolute velocity, all considerations of an absolute reference should be abolished. This latter conclusion was falsely taken by many to mean that the possibility of an absolute reference frame was disproved. BECAUSE ONE CANNOT OBSERVE SOMETHING IS NOT PROOF THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST!" First of all, if you think you are so important to a physical understanding, you should not be afraid to converse with this group. Secondly, as much as I can agree with much that you say, you do not respond to e-mail unless you think it agrees 100% with your thoughts. Iow, you limit any progressional physical understanding to only your terms. In that respect you reflect the 'Androcles syndrome'. You don't have to respond to every or any 'Androcles" post that is out there, but you show a complete disrespect to the members of this group by not responding to anything in reply. In that respect, you should be considered a 'phisher'. You may be too busy with your 'research' to make replies, but you also make it clear to us that you are NOT too busy to sort and post your personal critiques of a science on a regular timely basis. The question is "What are you afraid of?" We both know that no understanding of the physic will ever be 'complete'. Why do you fear that fact? Can't it be discussed? I guess 'on a regular basis' means 'never'. Why are you so chicken- sh*t to state and not defend? Geez! Just because there is a flaw in every theory, do you think you are sacrosanct? Your caccoon may be greater than 'Androcles' ', but it is still a caccoon. I think that I just do the complement to a physical thought. I try to do it with a style that 'might' make people consider other scenarios with 'other' physical connections that might be overlooked even by you. Since you obviously don't read posts, you have no idea of any suggestions besides your own? How sad. With 'spam' and 'phishing' like this (however it's intention), I think that this ng should voice an opinion that 'nonresponsive posts' should be encharted into a general rule to curtail this type of postal behavior. And where is a filter to limit this ng to keep 'my girl-boy friend' conversations out? We shouldn't mind a few salutations to be friendly with each other" (nor the rebuke to a limited extent), but off-topic guns, loves, and theories that try to invoke nothing even remotely connected to any possibility of a physic should be dissallowed. And then again, some people may think that guns and love are a significant part of a physic. The interesting point of all this is that we 'believe'. Like THAT can change a physic to our liking of an understanding? It needs to be discussed and you are unwilling to do so. If you would, some credibility might be ascertained. If not, no credibility should be assumed (despite my general agreement with your 'general' premise). C'mon, chicken, let's put it into an open forum despite the rags that you don't thing you are. |
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