On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote:
Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).
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BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)


see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
Y.Porat
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On Mar 7, 2:50 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).

------------------
BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)

Biochemistry has known that particle for decades.

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/liquids/inddip.html
http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/Bizarre/GRAV.htm


Theoretical physicists are just slow learners. ;-)

Sue...



see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
Y.Porat
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On Mar 7, 10:04 am, "Sue..." wrote:
On Mar 7, 2:50 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:





On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).

------------------
BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)

Biochemistry has known that particle for decades.

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/li...zarre/GRAV.htm

Theoretical physicists are just slow learners. ;-)

Sue...





see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
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while you have a new insight than
first people tell you you are an idot
satge 2
if it is found rigth and good
**the same people tell you ..

Oh yess
we know it and found it LONG AGO!!
in simpler words
falieur is an orphan

success has MANY FATHJERS!!


3 see my 'Circlon' at my site ( at the appendix)

it is far way from the idea in your quote!!
it is completely orriginal
bever saw it in another place

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

ATB
Y.Porat
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On Mar 7, 3:14 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Mar 7, 10:04 am, "Sue..." wrote:





On Mar 7, 2:50 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).

------------------
BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)

Biochemistry has known that particle for decades.

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/li...tp://www.mypag...

Theoretical physicists are just slow learners. ;-)

Sue...

see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
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while you have a new insight than
first people tell you you are an idot
satge 2
if it is found rigth and good
**the same people tell you ..

Oh yess
we know it and found it LONG AGO!!
in simpler words
falieur is an orphan

success has MANY FATHJERS!!

3 see my 'Circlon' at my site ( at the appendix)

it is far way from the idea in your quote!!
it is completely orriginal
bever saw it in another place

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

I don't find much there that explores molecular dynamics (MD)
but more a Medeleev style regularization of results.

A more generalised approach:
http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/

Sue...



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On Mar 7, 1:33 pm, "Sue..." wrote:
On Mar 7, 3:14 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:





On Mar 7, 10:04 am, "Sue..." wrote:

On Mar 7, 2:50 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).

------------------
BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)

Biochemistry has known that particle for decades.

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/li...tp://www.mypag...

Theoretical physicists are just slow learners. ;-)

Sue...

see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
Y.Porat
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while you have a new insight than
first people tell you you are an idot
satge 2
if it is found rigth and good
**the same people tell you ..

Oh yess
we know it and found it LONG AGO!!
in simpler words
falieur is an orphan

success has MANY FATHJERS!!

3 see my 'Circlon' at my site ( at the appendix)

it is far way from the idea in your quote!!
it is completely orriginal
bever saw it in another place

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

I don't find much there that explores molecular dynamics (MD)
but more a Medeleev style regularization of results.

A more generalised approach:http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/

Sue...





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you ddint notice the appendix there!

see there the idea of the particles that moves naturally
in a closed circle (if not disturbed)
and recoiles back in the reverse path
if colliding with another one like itself ..
in a bigger particles that is sending those
'mediators'
it is a huge number of them spread in all
3d dimensions
thjere for a symertic force is developed
and
at the stright line between actor and acted particles
those 'Circlons;' are canceling each others
effects

9th enudlesr and Atomic model at the beginning are not relevant for
you
at this moment
(though it is very compatible with the
Circlon idea by making possible the
'chain of orbitals' idea
those 'Circlons ' are making the orbitals links '

though the circlon idea is not an indispensible idea
of my main model

so
please go there again
right to the end of it -- the appendix
(sorry poor appearance it is all home made
but the substance imho is unprecedented
and revolustionary cross verified many folds!!)

(the 'Circlon' idea is just a guess but imho
wothwhile to seriously consider.
and as i said seems to me unevitable !!)

ATB
Y.Porat
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On Mar 7, 8:12 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
On Mar 7, 1:33 pm, "Sue..." wrote:





On Mar 7, 3:14 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Mar 7, 10:04 am, "Sue..." wrote:

On Mar 7, 2:50 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).

------------------
BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)

Biochemistry has known that particle for decades.

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/li...tp://www.mypag...

Theoretical physicists are just slow learners. ;-)

Sue...

see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
Y.Porat
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while you have a new insight than
first people tell you you are an idot
satge 2
if it is found rigth and good
**the same people tell you ..

Oh yess
we know it and found it LONG AGO!!
in simpler words
falieur is an orphan

success has MANY FATHJERS!!

3 see my 'Circlon' at my site ( at the appendix)

it is far way from the idea in your quote!!
it is completely orriginal
bever saw it in another place

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

I don't find much there that explores molecular dynamics (MD)
but more a Medeleev style regularization of results.

A more generalised approach:http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/

Sue...

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you ddint notice the appendix there!

see there the idea of the particles that moves naturally
in a closed circle (if not disturbed)
and recoiles back in the reverse path
if colliding with another one like itself ..
in a bigger particles that is sending those
'mediators'
it is a huge number of them spread in all
3d dimensions
thjere for a symertic force is developed
and
at the stright line between actor and acted particles
those 'Circlons;' are canceling each others
effects

9th enudlesr and Atomic model at the beginning are not relevant for
you
at this moment
(though it is very compatible with the
Circlon idea by making possible the
'chain of orbitals' idea
those 'Circlons ' are making the orbitals links '

though the circlon idea is not an indispensible idea
of my main model

so
please go there again
right to the end of it -- the appendix
(sorry poor appearance it is all home made
but the substance imho is unprecedented
and revolustionary cross verified many folds!!)

(the 'Circlon' idea is just a guess but imho
wothwhile to seriously consider.
and as i said seems to me unevitable !!)

Ok ~page 23.

A radiative graviphoton?

"Tajamar"
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html

"A. K. T. Assis, "
Gravitation as a fourth order electromagnetic effect,
In: Advanced Electromagnetism: Foundations,
Theory and Applications,
T. W. Barrett and D. M. Grimes (eds.),
(World Scientific, Singapore, 1995), pp. 314-331.
Abstract: We present a generalized Weber's law for
electromagnetism including terms of fourth and higher
orders in 1/c. These extra terms when applied to the
force between two neutral dipoles yield an equivalent
to Newton's law of universal gravitation as a fourth
order electromagnetic effect.
http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~assis/gra...-331(1995).pdf
http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~assis/wpapers.htm


"Nigel Cook"
http://electrogravity.blogspot.com/2...ps-behind.html


"Sue..."
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...don+gravity%22

"Kouropoulos"
http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/Bizarre/GRAV.htm


Sue...





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On Mar 7, 3:46 pm, "Sue..." wrote:
On Mar 7, 8:12 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:





On Mar 7, 1:33 pm, "Sue..." wrote:

On Mar 7, 3:14 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Mar 7, 10:04 am, "Sue..." wrote:

On Mar 7, 2:50 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:

On Mar 7, 5:51 am, Sam Wormley wrote: Fermilab data hint at Higgs boson (Mar 6)
http://physicsweb.org/article/news/11/3/4

Physicists working at the HyperCP experiment at Fermilab in the US claim
they may have glimpsed the first Higgs boson -- the particle many think
is responsible for all mass in the universe. However, for their claim to
be correct our current 30-year-old Standard Model of particle physics
would have to be set aside in favour of an alternative "supersymmetric"
model (Phys. Rev. Lett. 98 081802).

------------------
BRAVVO DONKEYS !!!!!!

****better later than never ***!!!!

anyway no super no shmuper
now i wonder what has all the parrots
crooks and suckers have to say !!

a new particle that moves anturally in closed circles
MUST BE FOUND !!!
that particle might work to gether with
co particles in a back and forth motion
to make attraction by hitting the attracted
object from thr rare side
no other way (imho...)

Biochemistry has known that particle for decades.

http://www.chem.purdue.edu/gchelp/li...tp://www.mypag...

Theoretical physicists are just slow learners. ;-)

Sue...

see IT At my site
that the old fart genius CREATIVE -Wormley-
called
PLONK ......

ATB
Y.Porat
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while you have a new insight than
first people tell you you are an idot
satge 2
if it is found rigth and good
**the same people tell you ..

Oh yess
we know it and found it LONG AGO!!
in simpler words
falieur is an orphan

success has MANY FATHJERS!!

3 see my 'Circlon' at my site ( at the appendix)

it is far way from the idea in your quote!!
it is completely orriginal
bever saw it in another place

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

I don't find much there that explores molecular dynamics (MD)
but more a Medeleev style regularization of results.

A more generalised approach:http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/

Sue...

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you ddint notice the appendix there!

see there the idea of the particles that moves naturally
in a closed circle (if not disturbed)
and recoiles back in the reverse path
if colliding with another one like itself ..
in a bigger particles that is sending those
'mediators'
it is a huge number of them spread in all
3d dimensions
thjere for a symertic force is developed
and
at the stright line between actor and acted particles
those 'Circlons;' are canceling each others
effects

9th enudlesr and Atomic model at the beginning are not relevant for
you
at this moment
(though it is very compatible with the
Circlon idea by making possible the
'chain of orbitals' idea
those 'Circlons ' are making the orbitals links '

though the circlon idea is not an indispensible idea
of my main model

so
please go there again
right to the end of it -- the appendix
(sorry poor appearance it is all home made
but the substance imho is unprecedented
and revolustionary cross verified many folds!!)

(the 'Circlon' idea is just a guess but imho
wothwhile to seriously consider.
and as i said seems to me unevitable !!)

Ok ~page 23.

A radiative graviphoton?

"Tajamar"http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html

"A. K. T. Assis, "
Gravitation as a fourth order electromagnetic effect,
In: Advanced Electromagnetism: Foundations,
Theory and Applications,
T. W. Barrett and D. M. Grimes (eds.),
(World Scientific, Singapore, 1995), pp. 314-331.
Abstract: We present a generalized Weber's law for
electromagnetism including terms of fourth and higher
orders in 1/c. These extra terms when applied to the
force between two neutral dipoles yield an equivalent
to Newton's law of universal gravitation as a fourth
order electromagnetic effect.http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~assis/gra...is/wpapers.htm

"Nigel Cook"http://electrogravity.blogspot.com/2006/12/there-are-two-types-of-loo...

"Sue..."http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22electro+london+gravity%22

"Kouropoulos"http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/Bizarre/GRAV.htm

Sue...





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??????

did any of the above said something about the specific way
in which a force mediator moves??

did any of them said that this force mediator
must move in a curved (if not disturbed circular)
path ??!!
and hit the acted particle at the rare side ?
anmd therefore there is an unbalanced
sum of forces that is bigger at the rare side-
cuasing the acted and acted particles to

come closer and closer ???
iow
not just mathematical formulas but
'the real thing the much more coser to reality real senario

it is not just another triviality
without a closer understanding of the real physical thing
mathematics cannot do more advance
to solve the still unknown enigmas !
btw
the above idea is some expansion of Newtons first law
of movement (expansion not a overall contradiction)
but as you get it
it is actually very simple
and imho poweful by its SIMPLICITY...

TIA
Y.Porat
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TIA
Y.Porat
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On Mar 8, 2:26 am, "Y.Porat" wrote:
bever saw it in another place

http://www.geocities.com/porat_y/mypage.html

I don't find much there that explores molecular dynamics (MD)
but more a Medeleev style regularization of results.

A more generalised approach:http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/

Sue...


----------------
you ddint notice the appendix there!

see there the idea of the particles that moves naturally
in a closed circle (if not disturbed)
and recoiles back in the reverse path
if colliding with another one like itself ..
in a bigger particles that is sending those
'mediators'
it is a huge number of them spread in all
3d dimensions
thjere for a symertic force is developed
and
at the stright line between actor and acted particles
those 'Circlons;' are canceling each others
effects

9th enudlesr and Atomic model at the beginning are not relevant for
you
at this moment
(though it is very compatible with the
Circlon idea by making possible the
'chain of orbitals' idea
those 'Circlons ' are making the orbitals links '

though the circlon idea is not an indispensible idea
of my main model

so
please go there again
right to the end of it -- the appendix
(sorry poor appearance it is all home made
but the substance imho is unprecedented
and revolustionary cross verified many folds!!)

(the 'Circlon' idea is just a guess but imho
wothwhile to seriously consider.
and as i said seems to me unevitable !!)

Ok ~page 23.

A radiative graviphoton?

"Tajamar"http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/GSP/SEM0L6OVGJE_0.html

"A. K. T. Assis, "
Gravitation as a fourth order electromagnetic effect,
In: Advanced Electromagnetism: Foundations,
Theory and Applications,
T. W. Barrett and D. M. Grimes (eds.),
(World Scientific, Singapore, 1995), pp. 314-331.
Abstract: We present a generalized Weber's law for
electromagnetism including terms of fourth and higher
orders in 1/c. These extra terms when applied to the
force between two neutral dipoles yield an equivalent
to Newton's law of universal gravitation as a fourth
order electromagnetic effect.http://www.ifi.unicamp.br/~assis/gra...p314-331(1995)...

"Nigel Cook"http://electrogravity.blogspot.com/2006/12/there-are-two-types-of-loo...

"Sue..."http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22electro+london+gravity%22

"Kouropoulos"http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/Bizarre/GRAV.htm

Sue...

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??????

did any of the above said something about the specific way
in which a force mediator moves??

Most are reduced to the Coulomb force.


did any of them said that this force mediator
must move in a curved (if not disturbed circular)
path ??!!

AFAIK they will all yield to Feynman's
exploration of all paths.
Most of all-the-paths are curved.

and hit the acted particle at the rare side ?
anmd therefore there is an unbalanced
sum of forces that is bigger at the rare side-
cuasing the acted and acted particles to

No... there is no "hitting". Psuedo-particles
interact as they are defined to interact.


come closer and closer ???
iow
not just mathematical formulas but
'the real thing the much more coser to reality real senario

What is unrealistic about these simulations?
...And any other problem involving interparticle forces...
http://www.research.ibm.com/grape/index.html


it is not just another triviality
without a closer understanding of the real physical thing
mathematics cannot do more advance
to solve the still unknown enigmas !

If you can offer more about why a positron attracts
an electron, the world is all ears.
O


btw
the above idea is some expansion of Newtons first law
of movement (expansion not a overall contradiction)
but as you get it
it is actually very simple
and imho poweful by its SIMPLICITY...

That is good. I feel excluded when all that Pauli
stuff gets thrown in. )

Sue...


TIA
Y.Porat
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