"Sue..." wrote in message
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| Sorcerer wrote:
| "Sue..." wrote in message
| oups.com...
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| | Sorcerer wrote:
| | "Sue..." wrote in message
| | oups.com...
| | | Sorcerer wrote:
| | | "Sue..." wrote in message
| | | oups.com...
| | | |
| | | | Sorcerer wrote:
| | | | "Sue..." wrote in message
| | | | ups.com...
| | | | | Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event
we
| | | | | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| | | | | electric charge.
| | | |
| | | |
| | | | Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event
we
| | | | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| | | | magnetic marge.
| | | |
| | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif
| | | |
| | | | My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges,
| | | | and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na!
| | | |
| | | | Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's
| universe.
| | | |
| | | | I'll never make it to a spelling bee.
| | |
| | | True.
| | |
| | | | You'll never make it to a physics bee.
| | |
| | | Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.
| | |
| | | |
| | | | Your *marges* are the nearfield magnetic couplings that only
| | | | *appear* FTL.
| | |
| | | You are living in Dork's universe, the speed of magnetic fields
| | | *IS* the speed of light.
| | |
| | | | They diminish by 1/r^3 and result from two
| | | | source charges conspiring to move one destination charge.
| | |
| | | ___________
| | | __________N|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r
| | |
| | | How much does the spring "\/\/\" holding the iron ball O extend
if
| | | I change r from the magnet N?
| |
| | That was a question you failed to answer, and so "[...]".
| | I'll ask it again with the magnet reversed.
| |
| | ___________
| | __________S|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r
| |
| | How much does the spring "\/\/\" holding the iron ball O extend if
| | I change r from the magnet S?
|
| [...]
| An answer, please.
[...]
No off topic drool about monopoles.
___________
|N_________S|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r

There's the other pole, it was hiding all the time.

An answer please.

Sorcerer wrote:
[...]
| |
| | How much does the spring "\/\/\" holding the iron ball O extend if
| | I change r from the magnet S?
|
| [...]
| An answer, please.
[...]
No off topic drool about monopoles.
___________
|N_________S|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r

There's the other pole, it was hiding all the time.

An answer please.


Stick with the animation packages for drawing. :-)

((( )))
N_________S O--\/\/\/\/\--r
((( ))) 931

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((( )))
N_________S O--\/\/\/\/\--r
((( ))) 931

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Move r over 1 to get 1 Newtons.
Move r over 9 to get 9 Newtons
Move r over 3 to get 3 Newtons.
The distance betwen 9 and 3 is the same
as the distance between 3 and 1

Obviously, it has lots of hysterisis and
you may have seen that used to impart some
snap action to bimetal thermal switches.

Sue...

"Sue..." wrote in message
ups.com...
| Sorcerer wrote:
| [...]
| | |
| | | How much does the spring "\/\/\" holding the iron ball O extend
if
| | | I change r from the magnet S?
| |
| | [...]
| | An answer, please.
| [...]
| No off topic drool about monopoles.
| ___________
| |N_________S|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r
|
| There's the other pole, it was hiding all the time.
|
| An answer please.
|
|
| Stick with the animation packages for drawing. :-)
|
| ((( )))
| N_________S O--\/\/\/\/\--r
| ((( ))) 931
|
| normal font
|
|
| ((( )))
| N_________S O--\/\/\/\/\--r
| ((( ))) 931
|
| fixed space font
|
| Move r over 1 to get 1 Newtons.
| Move r over 9 to get 9 Newtons
| Move r over 3 to get 3 Newtons.
| The distance betwen 9 and 3 is the same
| as the distance between 3 and 1
|
| Obviously, it has lots of hysterisis and
| you may have seen that used to impart some
| snap action to bimetal thermal switches.
|
| Sue...

Obviously you are making it up as you go long.
A hopeless case, when you can't guess yourself
you reproduce in babblespeak someone else's guess.
Over and out.

"Sorcerer" wrote in message
.uk...
| Obviously you are making it up as you go long.
| A hopeless case, when you can't guess yourself
| you reproduce in babblespeak someone else's guess.
| Over and out.
|
BTW, Design one of these

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=contactor&meta=

Sorcerer wrote:
"Sorcerer" wrote in message
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| Obviously you are making it up as you go long.
| A hopeless case, when you can't guess yourself
| you reproduce in babblespeak someone else's guess.
| Over and out.
|
BTW, Design one of these

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=contactor&meta=


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Sue...

"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote
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Hello Dirk,

Suppose I have two pieces of paper.
I write 0 or 1 on one piece and give it to you.
I write the same number on the other piece and
give it to your brother.
Your brother travels to wherever.
You both have a piece of paper with the same
number on it.
How would go about using this in practice
or -in principle- to transport information faster
than light?

Dirk Vdm

It is possible to create a pair of particles that are "connected" in
some way. Connected photons have related polarization and connected
electrons have related spin. The in this way connected particles can be
separated over long distances and after that the polarization and/or
spin properties can be influenced on one of the particles. This
influence is communicated without delay to the connected particle. This
enables information transmission faster than light. Each pair of
connected particles can be utilized to communicate one "bit" of
information (0 or 1 on your piece of paper). High speed and high volume
information transport seems to be difficult but the principle is enough
to refute Special Relativity.

I gave you an example with pieces of paper.
How would go about using this in practice
or -in principle- to transport information faster
than light?

Dirk Vdm


Cut the crap, Dirk- you know better than to erect strawmen. Sheesh. Quantum
entanglement is *not*where two particles have their operators arraigned
before hand to produce opposite results. If you want to continue to use your
2 pieces of paper example, then you must say both you and your brother have
two pieces of paper in your pocket. On one is written a'1', and on the other
is written a '2'. Now, it can be demonstrated that when you pull a '1' out
of your pocket, you brother will pull out a '2', and vice versa, and there
is no communication between either of you to explain this curious fact, then
you both are quantum entangled - in the case of humans you'd both have psi
ability. Clear now?

Greysky

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Jan, ignore these tiny minded hamsters, scooting over this newsgroup
pretending to be learned men of high standards. You obviously know better
anyway. Information is not what men define it to be. What humanity calls
information is not important - the universe cares not one whit for any of
mans constructions. It doesn't care whether you can manage to transmit
random coin flips or The Who through superluminal modalities, only that you
have the intelligence to be able to take a natural phenomena and twist it
around your finger and bend it to your will. To the victor goes the prize,
after all. To learn how it is done, check out www.allocations.cc

Greysky

www.allocations.cc
Learn how to build a FTL radio.

greysky wrote:
wrote in message
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Jan, ignore these tiny minded hamsters, scooting over this newsgroup
pretending to be learned men of high standards. You obviously know better
anyway. Information is not what men define it to be. What humanity calls
information is not important - the universe cares not one whit for any of
mans constructions. It doesn't care whether you can manage to transmit
random coin flips or The Who through superluminal modalities, only that you
have the intelligence to be able to take a natural phenomena and twist it
around your finger and bend it to your will. To the victor goes the prize,
after all. To learn how it is done, check out www.allocations.cc

Why haven't you actually built a FTL radio yet and demonstrated its'
effectiveness?


Greysky

www.allocations.cc
Learn how to build a FTL radio.

"Tom Roberts" wrote in message
news
wrote:
Tom Roberts schreef:
This is not true. None of these experiments transfer INFORMATION faster
than c.

I have multiple articles and books in which these experiments are
described.

Then either a) you have interpreted them wrong, or b) they describe the
ACTUAL EXPERIMENTS incorrectly.


Information is massless.

Hmmm. That is either wrong or irrelevant, depending on what you mean.
Shannon showed that there is a minimum energy per bit that must be
transferred in order to transfer information. Energy cannot be transferred
faster than c.

No it isn't. Massless entities by their very nature have nothing to do with
relativity - special or general. Energy is the carrier of information on an
EM wave. Quantum signals do not rely upon 'energy'. To say 'Energy cannot be
transferred faster than C' is like saying water cannot be transferred faster
than water. So what? Irrelevant to the discussion.


Connected particles can exchange information
about spin and polarization immediately, i.e. infinitely fast.

Not true.
Those quantum operators manage to change as quickly as the experiment
designed to detect them can resolve the change.



[...]



SR is not "dead" at all -- far from it! SR is one of the best tested
theories of physics. Thousands of particle physicists (such as myself) use
it every day. shrug


Relativity is still useful, as long as it does not contradict the
conclusions of quantum physics. If it does, it must take a back seat to the
latter.

Greysky

www.allocations.cc
Learn how to build a FTL radio.

"Eric Gisse" wrote in message
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greysky wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Jan, ignore these tiny minded hamsters, scooting over this newsgroup
pretending to be learned men of high standards. You obviously know better
anyway. Information is not what men define it to be. What humanity calls
information is not important - the universe cares not one whit for any of
mans constructions. It doesn't care whether you can manage to transmit
random coin flips or The Who through superluminal modalities, only that
you
have the intelligence to be able to take a natural phenomena and twist it
around your finger and bend it to your will. To the victor goes the
prize,
after all. To learn how it is done, check out www.allocations.cc

Why haven't you actually built a FTL radio yet and demonstrated its'
effectiveness?

Been there, done that. 1999 was a very good year... Now I'm waiting for
others to figure it out- on my terms, as usual.



Greysky

www.allocations.cc
Learn how to build a FTL radio.