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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
jan.verheul@tiscali.nl
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Hello Dirk,

Suppose I have two pieces of paper.
I write 0 or 1 on one piece and give it to you.
I write the same number on the other piece and
give it to your brother.
Your brother travels to wherever.
You both have a piece of paper with the same
number on it.
How would go about using this in practice
or -in principle- to transport information faster
than light?

Dirk Vdm


It is possible to create a pair of particles that are "connected" in
some way. Connected photons have related polarization and connected
electrons have related spin. The in this way connected particles can be
separated over long distances and after that the polarization and/or
spin properties can be influenced on one of the particles. This
influence is communicated without delay to the connected particle. This
enables information transmission faster than light. Each pair of
connected particles can be utilized to communicate one "bit" of
information (0 or 1 on your piece of paper). High speed and high volume
information transport seems to be difficult but the principle is enough
to refute Special Relativity.

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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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wrote:
LS,

Experiments with quantum mechanics have shown that information can be
transported faster than the speed of light. The speed with which two
"connected" photons communicate their polarization status is infinite,
which means - at least in principle - that timing pulses can be sent to
every corner of the universe without any delaying factor. So absolute
time does exist after all.


Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
electric charge.

Unless you have disproof of equation 511
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node50.html

....you are posting from a different universe.

Sue...



This is the final blow to the Theory of Special Relativity (SR for
short). SR claims that if two clocks A and B are moving with regard to
each other, B goes slower in the perception of A, and A goes slower in
the perception of B. The only excuse to maintain this contradiction has
always been the assumption that there were no fast enough communication
means to reveal this contradiction.

However, with immediate communication of timing information there is
"absolute time", and each clock in the universe has a speed in relation
to absolute time. If clock A is twice as slow as absolute time and
clock B is four times slower than absolute time, then clock A is twice
as fast as clock B, and clock B twice as slow as clock A. Ordinary
arithmetic is applicable to the speed of clocks.

There is a "zero" inertial frame and this inertial frame represents
absolute motionlessness. Motion with regard to "zero" is absolute and
not relative. It can be detected by comparing one's clock against
absolute time. If your clock is going very slowly, chances are that
your speed is close to the speed of light. The "zero" inertial frame is
also known as "aether".

The conclusion is that - contrary to Einstein's claims - time is
absolute (i.e. there is absolute time with which every event in the
universe can be synchronized) and movement is absolute. Every movement
can be related to a measurable zero inertial frame, in which all clocks
walk fastest.

So the name of this forum is even wrong. There *IS* no relativity in
time and velocity. All time and all velocity can be compared with
absolute and measurable standards.


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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Dear Sue...,


Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
electric charge.


Do you really know what information is? Quantum Mechanics teaches us
since the beginning of last century that information is added to the
universe on a constant basis and at a very high rate. The universe
"throws dice" constantly (with which mister Einstein had obviously some
difficulty), and adds "random" information in the randomness of quantum
events.

Each quantum event represents information. It appears that not all
quantum events are completely random. Some events are dependent on
other events. This enables immediate (infinitely fast) information
transport if the mentioned dependency is immediate, which appears to be
the case.

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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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wrote:
Dear Sue...,


Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
electric charge.


Do you really know what information is? Quantum Mechanics teaches us
since the beginning of last century that information is added to the
universe on a constant basis and at a very high rate. The universe
"throws dice" constantly (with which mister Einstein had obviously some
difficulty), and adds "random" information in the randomness of quantum
events.

Each quantum event represents information. It appears that not all
quantum events are completely random. Some events are dependent on
other events. This enables immediate (infinitely fast) information
transport if the mentioned dependency is immediate, which appears to be
the case.


Most of the information in QM propagtes on the tip of a pencil.
Get smart. You certainly aren't citing any QM from this
universe:

Now, does not the prize to Einstein imply
that the Academy recognised the particle
nature of light? The Nobel Committee says
that Einstein had found that the energy exchange
between matter and ether occurs by atoms emitting
or absorbing a quantum of energy,hv .

As a consequence of the new concept of light quanta
(in modern terminology photons) Einstein proposed the
law that an electron emitted from a substance by
monochromatic light with the frequency has to have
a maximum energy of E=hv-p, where p is the energy needed to
remove the electron from the substance. Robert Andrews
Millikan carried out a series of measurements over a
period of 10 years, finally confirming the validity of this
law in 1916 with great accuracy. Millikan had, however,
found the idea of light quanta to be unfamiliar and strange.

The Nobel Committee avoids committing itself to the
particle concept. Light-quanta or with modern terminology,
photons, were explicitly mentioned in the reports on
which the prize decision rested only in connection with
emission and absorption processes. The Committee says
that the most important application of Einstein's photoelectric
law and also its most convincing confirmation has come from
the use Bohr made of it in his theory of atoms, which explains
a vast amount of spectroscopic data.
http://nobelprize.org/physics/articl...ong/index.html

Well, that was where the mistake was, there was no field.
It was just that when you shook one charge, another would
shake later. There was a direct interaction between charges,
albeit with a delay. The law of force connecting the motion of
one charge with another would just involve a delay. Shake this
one, that one shakes later. The sun atom shakes; my eye
electron shakes eight minutes later, because of a direct
interaction across.
http://nobelprize.org/physics/laurea...n-lecture.html

Sue...

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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"Sue..." wrote in message
ups.com...
| Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
| can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| electric charge.


Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event we
can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
magnetic marge.

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif

My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges,
and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na!

Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's universe.

[...]
Androcles





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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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ups.com...
|
| Dear Sue...,
|
|
| Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
| can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| electric charge.
|
|
| Do you really know what information is?

Errr... communicated lies?
Androcles




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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Sorcerer wrote:
"Sue..." wrote in message
ups.com...
| Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
| can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| electric charge.


Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event we
can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
magnetic marge.

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif

My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges,
and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na!

Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's universe.


I'll never make it to a spelling bee.
You'll never make it to a physics bee.

Your *marges* are the nearfield magnetic couplings that only
*appear* FTL. They diminish by 1/r^3 and result from two
source charges conspiring to move one destination charge.
Not terribly efficient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral
Time-independent Maxwell equations
Time-dependent Maxwell's equations
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin.../lectures.html
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node50.html

http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching.html
http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL...ight/index.htm

Sue...


[...]
Androcles


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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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"Sue..." wrote in message
oups.com...
|
| Sorcerer wrote:
| "Sue..." wrote in message
| ups.com...
| | Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
| | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| | electric charge.
|
|
| Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event we
| can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
| magnetic marge.
|
| http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif
|
| My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges,
| and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na!
|
| Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's universe.
|
| I'll never make it to a spelling bee.

True.

| You'll never make it to a physics bee.

Been there, done that, got the T-shirt.

|
| Your *marges* are the nearfield magnetic couplings that only
| *appear* FTL.

You are living in Dork's universe, the speed of magnetic fields
*IS* the speed of light.

| They diminish by 1/r^3 and result from two
| source charges conspiring to move one destination charge.

___________
__________N|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r

How much does the spring "\/\/\" holding the iron ball O extend if
I change r from the magnet N?

You are living in Dork's universe.

| Not terribly efficient.

Liar, transformers are 99% efficient.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...indistance.gif

It is your radiators that are terroristically not efficent. Get a bowl,
idiot,
or your trifle will be all over the table top when you bake it.
Trifle:
http://www.thefoody.com/pudding/sherrytrifle.html
Bowl:
http://www.lamit.ro/images/satellite-dish-lamit-hub.jpg

My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges,
and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na!
[...]
Androcles.


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Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
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There will come a time, when the world will be filled with one science, one
truth, one industry, one brotherhood, one friendship with Nature!... ...

This is my belief, it progresses, it grows stronger, this is worth living
for, this is worth waiting for!

-- Dmitri Mendeleyev

--
Ahmed Ouahi, Architect
Best Regards!


"Sue..." wrote in message
ups.com...

wrote:
LS,

Experiments with quantum mechanics have shown that information can be
transported faster than the speed of light. The speed with which two
"connected" photons communicate their polarization status is infinite,
which means - at least in principle - that timing pulses can be sent to
every corner of the universe without any delaying factor. So absolute
time does exist after all.


Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we
can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote
electric charge.

Unless you have disproof of equation 511
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node50.html

...you are posting from a different universe.

Sue...



This is the final blow to the Theory of Special Relativity (SR for
short). SR claims that if two clocks A and B are moving with regard to
each other, B goes slower in the perception of A, and A goes slower in
the perception of B. The only excuse to maintain this contradiction has
always been the assumption that there were no fast enough communication
means to reveal this contradiction.

However, with immediate communication of timing information there is
"absolute time", and each clock in the universe has a speed in relation
to absolute time. If clock A is twice as slow as absolute time and
clock B is four times slower than absolute time, then clock A is twice
as fast as clock B, and clock B twice as slow as clock A. Ordinary
arithmetic is applicable to the speed of clocks.

There is a "zero" inertial frame and this inertial frame represents
absolute motionlessness. Motion with regard to "zero" is absolute and
not relative. It can be detected by comparing one's clock against
absolute time. If your clock is going very slowly, chances are that
your speed is close to the speed of light. The "zero" inertial frame is
also known as "aether".

The conclusion is that - contrary to Einstein's claims - time is
absolute (i.e. there is absolute time with which every event in the
universe can be synchronized) and movement is absolute. Every movement
can be related to a measurable zero inertial frame, in which all clocks
walk fastest.

So the name of this forum is even wrong. There *IS* no relativity in
time and velocity. All time and all velocity can be compared with
absolute and measurable standards.




  #20  
Old November 16th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
Sue...
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Ahmed Ouahi, Architect wrote:
There will come a time, when the world will be filled with one
science, one
truth, one industry, one brotherhood, one friendship with Nature!...
....

It won't happen 'till they start threading bicycle pedals so the
bearing friction tightens them to the crank instead of loosening
them. What on earth was Orville and Wilber thinking in that
bike shop? How to bankrupt air carriers perhaps?

Sue...

[...]

 




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