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Hello Dirk,
Suppose I have two pieces of paper. I write 0 or 1 on one piece and give it to you. I write the same number on the other piece and give it to your brother. Your brother travels to wherever. You both have a piece of paper with the same number on it. How would go about using this in practice or -in principle- to transport information faster than light? Dirk Vdm It is possible to create a pair of particles that are "connected" in some way. Connected photons have related polarization and connected electrons have related spin. The in this way connected particles can be separated over long distances and after that the polarization and/or spin properties can be influenced on one of the particles. This influence is communicated without delay to the connected particle. This enables information transmission faster than light. Each pair of connected particles can be utilized to communicate one "bit" of information (0 or 1 on your piece of paper). High speed and high volume information transport seems to be difficult but the principle is enough to refute Special Relativity. |
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wrote: LS, Experiments with quantum mechanics have shown that information can be transported faster than the speed of light. The speed with which two "connected" photons communicate their polarization status is infinite, which means - at least in principle - that timing pulses can be sent to every corner of the universe without any delaying factor. So absolute time does exist after all. Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote electric charge. Unless you have disproof of equation 511 http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node50.html ....you are posting from a different universe. Sue... This is the final blow to the Theory of Special Relativity (SR for short). SR claims that if two clocks A and B are moving with regard to each other, B goes slower in the perception of A, and A goes slower in the perception of B. The only excuse to maintain this contradiction has always been the assumption that there were no fast enough communication means to reveal this contradiction. However, with immediate communication of timing information there is "absolute time", and each clock in the universe has a speed in relation to absolute time. If clock A is twice as slow as absolute time and clock B is four times slower than absolute time, then clock A is twice as fast as clock B, and clock B twice as slow as clock A. Ordinary arithmetic is applicable to the speed of clocks. There is a "zero" inertial frame and this inertial frame represents absolute motionlessness. Motion with regard to "zero" is absolute and not relative. It can be detected by comparing one's clock against absolute time. If your clock is going very slowly, chances are that your speed is close to the speed of light. The "zero" inertial frame is also known as "aether". The conclusion is that - contrary to Einstein's claims - time is absolute (i.e. there is absolute time with which every event in the universe can be synchronized) and movement is absolute. Every movement can be related to a measurable zero inertial frame, in which all clocks walk fastest. So the name of this forum is even wrong. There *IS* no relativity in time and velocity. All time and all velocity can be compared with absolute and measurable standards. |
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Dear Sue..., Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote electric charge. Do you really know what information is? Quantum Mechanics teaches us since the beginning of last century that information is added to the universe on a constant basis and at a very high rate. The universe "throws dice" constantly (with which mister Einstein had obviously some difficulty), and adds "random" information in the randomness of quantum events. Each quantum event represents information. It appears that not all quantum events are completely random. Some events are dependent on other events. This enables immediate (infinitely fast) information transport if the mentioned dependency is immediate, which appears to be the case. |
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wrote: Dear Sue..., Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote electric charge. Do you really know what information is? Quantum Mechanics teaches us since the beginning of last century that information is added to the universe on a constant basis and at a very high rate. The universe "throws dice" constantly (with which mister Einstein had obviously some difficulty), and adds "random" information in the randomness of quantum events. Each quantum event represents information. It appears that not all quantum events are completely random. Some events are dependent on other events. This enables immediate (infinitely fast) information transport if the mentioned dependency is immediate, which appears to be the case. Most of the information in QM propagtes on the tip of a pencil. Get smart. You certainly aren't citing any QM from this universe: Now, does not the prize to Einstein imply that the Academy recognised the particle nature of light? The Nobel Committee says that Einstein had found that the energy exchange between matter and ether occurs by atoms emitting or absorbing a quantum of energy,hv . As a consequence of the new concept of light quanta (in modern terminology photons) Einstein proposed the law that an electron emitted from a substance by monochromatic light with the frequency has to have a maximum energy of E=hv-p, where p is the energy needed to remove the electron from the substance. Robert Andrews Millikan carried out a series of measurements over a period of 10 years, finally confirming the validity of this law in 1916 with great accuracy. Millikan had, however, found the idea of light quanta to be unfamiliar and strange. The Nobel Committee avoids committing itself to the particle concept. Light-quanta or with modern terminology, photons, were explicitly mentioned in the reports on which the prize decision rested only in connection with emission and absorption processes. The Committee says that the most important application of Einstein's photoelectric law and also its most convincing confirmation has come from the use Bohr made of it in his theory of atoms, which explains a vast amount of spectroscopic data. http://nobelprize.org/physics/articl...ong/index.html Well, that was where the mistake was, there was no field. It was just that when you shook one charge, another would shake later. There was a direct interaction between charges, albeit with a delay. The law of force connecting the motion of one charge with another would just involve a delay. Shake this one, that one shakes later. The sun atom shakes; my eye electron shakes eight minutes later, because of a direct interaction across. http://nobelprize.org/physics/laurea...n-lecture.html Sue... |
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"Sue..." wrote in message ups.com... | Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote | electric charge. Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event we can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote magnetic marge. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges, and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na! Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's universe. [...] Androcles |
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wrote in message ups.com... | | Dear Sue..., | | | Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote | electric charge. | | | Do you really know what information is? Errr... communicated lies? Androcles |
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Sorcerer wrote: "Sue..." wrote in message ups.com... | Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote | electric charge. Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event we can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote magnetic marge. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges, and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na! Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's universe. I'll never make it to a spelling bee. You'll never make it to a physics bee. Your *marges* are the nearfield magnetic couplings that only *appear* FTL. They diminish by 1/r^3 and result from two source charges conspiring to move one destination charge. Not terribly efficient. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_integral Time-independent Maxwell equations Time-dependent Maxwell's equations http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin.../lectures.html http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node50.html http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching.html http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL...ight/index.htm Sue... [...] Androcles |
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"Sue..." wrote in message oups.com... | | Sorcerer wrote: | "Sue..." wrote in message | ups.com... | | Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we | | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote | | electric charge. | | | Communication in it[s] most minimal form, the smallest event we | can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote | magnetic marge. | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/AC/spin.gif | | My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges, | and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na! | | Unless you can show otherwise, you are living in Dork's universe. | | I'll never make it to a spelling bee. True. | You'll never make it to a physics bee. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt. | | Your *marges* are the nearfield magnetic couplings that only | *appear* FTL. You are living in Dork's universe, the speed of magnetic fields *IS* the speed of light. | They diminish by 1/r^3 and result from two | source charges conspiring to move one destination charge. ___________ __________N|---------------O--\/\/\/\/\--r How much does the spring "\/\/\" holding the iron ball O extend if I change r from the magnet N? You are living in Dork's universe. | Not terribly efficient. Liar, transformers are 99% efficient. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...indistance.gif It is your radiators that are terroristically not efficent. Get a bowl, idiot, or your trifle will be all over the table top when you bake it. Trifle: http://www.thefoody.com/pudding/sherrytrifle.html Bowl: http://www.lamit.ro/images/satellite-dish-lamit-hub.jpg My magnetic marges are faster than your electric charges, and my chickens came before your eggs. Nah nah na nah na! [...] Androcles. |
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There will come a time, when the world will be filled with one science, one truth, one industry, one brotherhood, one friendship with Nature!... ... This is my belief, it progresses, it grows stronger, this is worth living for, this is worth waiting for! -- Dmitri Mendeleyev -- Ahmed Ouahi, Architect Best Regards! "Sue..." wrote in message ups.com... wrote: LS, Experiments with quantum mechanics have shown that information can be transported faster than the speed of light. The speed with which two "connected" photons communicate their polarization status is infinite, which means - at least in principle - that timing pulses can be sent to every corner of the universe without any delaying factor. So absolute time does exist after all. Communication in it most minimal form, the smallest event we can observe, involves no less than the motion of a remote electric charge. Unless you have disproof of equation 511 http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...es/node50.html ...you are posting from a different universe. Sue... This is the final blow to the Theory of Special Relativity (SR for short). SR claims that if two clocks A and B are moving with regard to each other, B goes slower in the perception of A, and A goes slower in the perception of B. The only excuse to maintain this contradiction has always been the assumption that there were no fast enough communication means to reveal this contradiction. However, with immediate communication of timing information there is "absolute time", and each clock in the universe has a speed in relation to absolute time. If clock A is twice as slow as absolute time and clock B is four times slower than absolute time, then clock A is twice as fast as clock B, and clock B twice as slow as clock A. Ordinary arithmetic is applicable to the speed of clocks. There is a "zero" inertial frame and this inertial frame represents absolute motionlessness. Motion with regard to "zero" is absolute and not relative. It can be detected by comparing one's clock against absolute time. If your clock is going very slowly, chances are that your speed is close to the speed of light. The "zero" inertial frame is also known as "aether". The conclusion is that - contrary to Einstein's claims - time is absolute (i.e. there is absolute time with which every event in the universe can be synchronized) and movement is absolute. Every movement can be related to a measurable zero inertial frame, in which all clocks walk fastest. So the name of this forum is even wrong. There *IS* no relativity in time and velocity. All time and all velocity can be compared with absolute and measurable standards. |
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Ahmed Ouahi, Architect wrote:
There will come a time, when the world will be filled with one science, one truth, one industry, one brotherhood, one friendship with Nature!... .... It won't happen 'till they start threading bicycle pedals so the bearing friction tightens them to the crank instead of loosening them. What on earth was Orville and Wilber thinking in that bike shop? How to bankrupt air carriers perhaps? Sue... [...] |
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