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"Nth Complexity" wrote in message
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| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that
| measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz
| contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and
| therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged

by
| a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually
| referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions:
|
| 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi.
|
| 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi.
|
| 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to
| pi.
|
| 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares.
|
| Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of
| the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the
| circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating
| observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery

two
| times.
|
| Pentcho Valev
|
| Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article
| about it:
|
| http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit
|
| -- Nth Complexity --
| -- Have A Nice Day! --
| "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient
| for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings
| from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but
| not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew
| Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable
| and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S.
|
|
Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny,
or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll
gif some gifs to it as a gift.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Androcles



I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too
stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as
Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not
stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL!

So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up.



  #24  
Old September 25th 06 posted to alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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Default THE EHRENFEST PARADOX


"Sorcerer" wrote in message
k...

"Nth Complexity" wrote in message
]...
| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that
| measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz
| contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and
| therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged

by
| a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually
| referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions:
|
| 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi.
|
| 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi.
|
| 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to
| pi.
|
| 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares.
|
| Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of
| the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the
| circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating
| observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery

two
| times.
|
| Pentcho Valev
|
| Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article
| about it:
|
| http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit
|
| -- Nth Complexity --
| -- Have A Nice Day! --
| "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient
| for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings
| from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but
| not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew
| Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable
| and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S.
|
|
Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny,
or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll
gif some gifs to it as a gift.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Androcles



I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too
stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as
Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not
stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL!

So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up.



  #25  
Old September 25th 06 posted to alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
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Posts: 50
Default THE EHRENFEST PARADOX


"Sorcerer" wrote in message
k...

"Nth Complexity" wrote in message
]...
| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that
| measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz
| contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and
| therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged

by
| a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually
| referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions:
|
| 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi.
|
| 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi.
|
| 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to
| pi.
|
| 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares.
|
| Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of
| the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the
| circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating
| observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery

two
| times.
|
| Pentcho Valev
|
| Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article
| about it:
|
| http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit
|
| -- Nth Complexity --
| -- Have A Nice Day! --
| "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient
| for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings
| from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but
| not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew
| Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable
| and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S.
|
|
Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny,
or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll
gif some gifs to it as a gift.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Androcles



I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too
stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as
Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not
stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL!

So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up.



  #26  
Old September 25th 06 posted to alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Surly
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Posts: 50
Default THE EHRENFEST PARADOX


"Sorcerer" wrote in message
k...

"Nth Complexity" wrote in message
]...
| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that
| measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz
| contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and
| therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged

by
| a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually
| referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions:
|
| 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi.
|
| 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi.
|
| 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to
| pi.
|
| 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares.
|
| Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of
| the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the
| circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating
| observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery

two
| times.
|
| Pentcho Valev
|
| Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article
| about it:
|
| http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit
|
| -- Nth Complexity --
| -- Have A Nice Day! --
| "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient
| for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings
| from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but
| not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew
| Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable
| and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S.
|
|
Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny,
or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll
gif some gifs to it as a gift.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Androcles



I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too
stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as
Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not
stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL!

So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up.



  #27  
Old September 25th 06 posted to alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Surly
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Posts: 50
Default THE EHRENFEST PARADOX


"Sorcerer" wrote in message
k...

"Nth Complexity" wrote in message
]...
| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that
| measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz
| contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and
| therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged

by
| a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually
| referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions:
|
| 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi.
|
| 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi.
|
| 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to
| pi.
|
| 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares.
|
| Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of
| the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the
| circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating
| observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery

two
| times.
|
| Pentcho Valev
|
| Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article
| about it:
|
| http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit
|
| -- Nth Complexity --
| -- Have A Nice Day! --
| "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient
| for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings
| from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but
| not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew
| Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable
| and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S.
|
|
Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny,
or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll
gif some gifs to it as a gift.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Androcles



I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too
stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as
Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not
stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL!

So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up.



  #28  
Old September 25th 06 posted to alt.usenet.kooks,sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.astro
Surly
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Posts: 50
Default THE EHRENFEST PARADOX


"Sorcerer" wrote in message
k...

"Nth Complexity" wrote in message
]...
| Pentcho Valev wrote:
| By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that
| measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz
| contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and
| therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged

by
| a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually
| referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions:
|
| 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi.
|
| 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi.
|
| 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to
| pi.
|
| 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares.
|
| Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of
| the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the
| circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating
| observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery

two
| times.
|
| Pentcho Valev
|
| Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article
| about it:
|
| http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit
|
| -- Nth Complexity --
| -- Have A Nice Day! --
| "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient
| for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings
| from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but
| not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew
| Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable
| and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S.
|
|
Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny,
or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll
gif some gifs to it as a gift.
http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm
Androcles



I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too
stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as
Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not
stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL!

So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up.



  #29  
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