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"Sorcerer" wrote in message k... "Surly" wrote in message ... | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | k... | | "Surly" wrote in message | . .. | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | k... | | | | "Nth Complexity" wrote in | message | | ]... | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are | Lorentz | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as | judged | | by | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions: | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is | equal | to | | | pi. | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed | of | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the | periphery | | two | | | times. | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article | | | about it: | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS | funny, | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | Androcles | | | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm | too | | stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" | | | I HATE you and other ****wits, like creationists, who loudly proclaim | that | you are | too stupid to understand it, so it must be true!" | | **** off, troll. | | Wow. You really are a stupid, sad, and miserable piece of ****, aren't you? Nah, you must be faking it. For example, your nonsensical response that creationists say that they are too stupid to understand creationism, so it must be true, just proves the point (if you actually tried to think about what you say before you say it then you might avoid demonstrating just how idiotic you are). Do you also believe that they claim that evolution must be false because they understand it? You would be so much more interesting and entertaining if your "arguments" weren't so mindless. You mother must be so proud! |
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"Sorcerer" wrote in message k... "Surly" wrote in message . .. | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | ... | | "Surly" wrote in message | . .. | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | k... | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | ... | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | k... | | | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | | . .. | | | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | | k... | | | | | | | | "Nth Complexity" | wrote | in | | | message | | | | ]... | | | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein | claims | | that | | | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc | are | | | Lorentz | | | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not | and | | | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, | as | | | judged | | | | by | | | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is | | usually | | | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four | solutions: | | | | | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio | is | | | equal | | | to | | | | | pi. | | | | | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the | linear | | speed | | | of | | | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of | the | | | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the | | non-rotating | | | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the | | | periphery | | | | two | | | | | times. | | | | | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia | | article | | | | | about it: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are | | insufficient | | | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human | | beings | | | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective | reality', | | but | | | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In | | Andrew | | | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly | answerable | | | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that | really | IS | | | funny, | | | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes | off | | I'll | | | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | | | Androcles | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly | proclaim | | "I'm | | | too | | | | stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" | | | | | | | | | I HATE you and other ****wits, like creationists, who loudly | proclaim | | | that | | | you are | | | too stupid to understand it, so it must be true!" | | | | | | **** off, troll. | | | | | | | | | Wow. You really are a stupid, sad, and miserable piece of ****, aren't you? Nah, you must be faking it. For example, your nonsensical response that creationists say that they are too stupid to understand creationism, so it must be true, just proves the point (if you actually tried to think about what you say before you say it then you might avoid demonstrating just how idiotic you are). Do you also believe that they claim that evolution must be false because they understand it? You would be so much more interesting and entertaining if your "arguments" weren't so mindless. I LOVE that you keep advertising your abject stupidity by reposting your non-sense time and again! Thank you! |
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"Sorcerer" wrote in message k... "Surly" wrote in message . .. | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | ... | | "Surly" wrote in message | . .. | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | k... | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | ... | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | k... | | | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | | . .. | | | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | | k... | | | | | | | | "Nth Complexity" | wrote | in | | | message | | | | ]... | | | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein | claims | | that | | | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc | are | | | Lorentz | | | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not | and | | | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, | as | | | judged | | | | by | | | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is | | usually | | | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four | solutions: | | | | | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio | is | | | equal | | | to | | | | | pi. | | | | | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the | linear | | speed | | | of | | | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of | the | | | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the | | non-rotating | | | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the | | | periphery | | | | two | | | | | times. | | | | | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia | | article | | | | | about it: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are | | insufficient | | | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human | | beings | | | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective | reality', | | but | | | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In | | Andrew | | | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly | answerable | | | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that | really | IS | | | funny, | | | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes | off | | I'll | | | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | | | Androcles | | | | | | | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL! So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up. |
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"Sorcerer" wrote in message k... "Surly" wrote in message . .. | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | k... | | "Nth Complexity" wrote in message | ]... | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are Lorentz | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as judged | by | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions: | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is equal to | | pi. | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed of | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the periphery | two | | times. | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article | | about it: | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS funny, | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | Androcles | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL! So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up. |
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"Sorcerer" wrote in message k... "Surly" wrote in message ... | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | k... | | "Surly" wrote in message | . .. | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | k... | | | | "Nth Complexity" wrote in | message | | ]... | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims that | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are | Lorentz | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as | judged | | by | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is usually | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions: | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is | equal | to | | | pi. | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear speed | of | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the non-rotating | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the | periphery | | two | | | times. | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia article | | | about it: | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are insufficient | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human beings | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', but | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In Andrew | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS | funny, | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off I'll | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | Androcles | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL! So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up. |
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"Sorcerer" wrote in message ... "Surly" wrote in message . .. | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | k... | | "Surly" wrote in message | ... | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | k... | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | . .. | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | k... | | | | | | "Nth Complexity" wrote in | | message | | | ]... | | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims | that | | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are | | Lorentz | | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and | | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as | | judged | | | by | | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is | usually | | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions: | | | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is | | equal | | to | | | | pi. | | | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear | speed | | of | | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the | | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the | non-rotating | | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the | | periphery | | | two | | | | times. | | | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia | article | | | | about it: | | | | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are | insufficient | | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human | beings | | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', | but | | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In | Andrew | | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable | | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS | | funny, | | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off | I'll | | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | | Androcles | | | | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim "I'm too stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" and then label themselves as Smart. The only ones that you're fooling, into believing that you're not stupid, is you. You really do think of yourselves as clever. LOL! So amusing. Thank you. Keep it up. |
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"Surly" wrote in message . .. | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | k... | | "Surly" wrote in message | ... | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | k... | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | . .. | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | k... | | | | | | "Nth Complexity" wrote in | | message | | | ]... | | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein claims | that | | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating disc are | | Lorentz | | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are not and | | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the diameter, as | | judged | | | by | | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem is | usually | | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four solutions: | | | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The ratio is | | equal | | to | | | | pi. | | | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the linear | speed | | of | | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the length of the | | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the | non-rotating | | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on the | | periphery | | | two | | | | times. | | | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an encyclopedia | article | | | | about it: | | | | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are | insufficient | | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate human | beings | | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective reality', | but | | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. In | Andrew | | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly answerable | | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- A.D.S. | | | | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that really IS | | funny, | | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it takes off | I'll | | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | | Androcles | | | | | | | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly proclaim | "I'm | | too | | | stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" | | | | | | I HATE you and other ****wits, like creationists, who loudly proclaim | | that | | you are | | too stupid to understand it, so it must be true!" | | | | **** off, troll. | | | | | **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. |
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"Surly" wrote in message . .. | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | k... | | "Surly" wrote in message | . .. | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | ... | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | . .. | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | k... | | | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | | ... | | | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | | k... | | | | | | | | "Surly" wrote in message | | | | . .. | | | | | | | | | | "Sorcerer" wrote in message | | | | | k... | | | | | | | | | | "Nth Complexity" | | wrote | | in | | | | message | | | | | ]... | | | | | | Pentcho Valev wrote: | | | | | | By the end of Chapter 23 in his "Relativity" Einstein | | claims | | | that | | | | | | measuring rods laid out along the rim of a rotating | disc | | are | | | | Lorentz | | | | | | contracted whereas those laid out along the radius are | not | | and | | | | | | therefore the ratio of the circumference and the | diameter, | | as | | | | judged | | | | | by | | | | | | a non-rotating observer, is no longer pi. The problem | is | | | usually | | | | | | referred to as the Ehrenfest paradox and has four | | solutions: | | | | | | | | | | | | 1. Ehrenfest: The ratio is smaller than pi. | | | | | | | | | | | | 2. Einstein: The ratio is greater than pi. | | | | | | | | | | | | 3. M. Strauss (Int.J.Theor.Phys. 11, 107, 1974): The | ratio | | is | | | | equal | | | | to | | | | | | pi. | | | | | | | | | | | | 4. The rest of the scientific world: Who cares. | | | | | | | | | | | | Einstein's solution is the most breathtaking: as the | | linear | | | speed | | | | of | | | | | | the periphery approaches the speed of light, the | length | of | | the | | | | | | circumference approaches infinity and therefore the | | | non-rotating | | | | | | observer will never live long enough to see a mark on | the | | | | periphery | | | | | two | | | | | | times. | | | | | | | | | | | | Pentcho Valev | | | | | | | | | | | | Hey Pentcho! Cool paradox! You should write an | encyclopedia | | | article | | | | | | about it: | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | http://uncyclopedia.org/index.php?ti...ox&action=edit | | | | | | | | | | | | -- Nth Complexity -- | | | | | | -- Have A Nice Day! -- | | | | | | "However, these criteria, admirable as they are, are | | | insufficient | | | | | | for a *liberatory* postmodern science: they liberate | human | | | beings | | | | | | from the tyranny of 'absolute truth' and 'objective | | reality', | | | but | | | | | | not necessarily from the tyranny of other human beings. | In | | | Andrew | | | | | | Ross' words, we need a science 'that will be publicly | | answerable | | | | | | and of some service to progressive interests.'" -- | A.D.S. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | Hmm.... quite witty... This strikes me as something that | | really | | IS | | | | funny, | | | | | or could be if properly maintained. Well done. If it | takes | | off | | | I'll | | | | | gif some gifs to it as a gift. | | | | | | http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...mart/Smart.htm | | | | | Androcles | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | I LOVE you and other idiots, like creationist, who loudly | | proclaim | | | "I'm | | | | too | | | | | stupid to understand it, so it can't be true!" | | | | | | | | | | | | I HATE you and other ****wits, like creationists, who loudly | | proclaim | | | | that | | | | you are | | | | too stupid to understand it, so it must be true!" | | | | | | | | **** off, troll. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. **** off, troll. | |
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