1.
In classical physics this law exactly is not observed.
Only in quantum physics this law is exactly observed.
The observance of this law is connected to the formula E=Mc^2
2.
Quantum theory says that at the interaction of the electron
with the vacuum, the energy and mass of it become infinite.
It means that the law of conservation and transformation energy is
broken.
Unless can it be?
No.
Honor and glory to mathematicians.
They thought up " a method of renormalization ", a method
" to sweep the dust under the carpet " / Feynman./ and so
they solved this problem.
But what process is really connected with
the " method of renormalization "?
Please, remember, electron is not a professional mathematician,
but it maybe a particle, maybe a wave.
3.
The physicists say that electron is eternal particle because
it has less electric charge and therefore it cannot break-up.
So, how can electron keep its eternal condition?
How can electron escape its infinity?
How to understand the fact of
"conservation and transformation energy" of electron?
4.
Electron is the particle which has a form of a sphere
(geoid), having energy E=hw.
But everybody knows that an electron is not a firm sphere.
Everybody knows that its form can be changed.
But nobody understands the borders of its change.
Electron cannot disappear .
Electron can only change its form.
So, what are the borders of this change?
5.
According to the law of conservation and transformation energy:
a)
Electron, having the geometrical form of a sphere,
loses their volume (density) and turns into an indefinitely
flat circle (C/D=pi).
What does "indefinitely flat circle " mean?
It means, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
and we cannot reach density of the electron in the rest .
b)
In the interaction of the electron with vacuum
transformation of the kinetic energy of an electron ( E=hw)
in its potential energy E=Mc^2 take place.
c)
It is impossible to understand the "last essence of electron"
dividing its geometrical form from energy.
The geometrical form and energy of electron
are united together inseparably .

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| In classical physics this law exactly is not observed.


Nonsense.

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Androcles

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1.
In classical physics this law exactly is not observed.

It is not a 'law' is the sense of something nature must adhere to. Noethers
theorem shows it is simply a tautological statement about the time symmetry
of a systems underlying lagragian. The physics lies in the fact as far as
we can tell today all physical tethers are expressible as a principle of
least action - hence Noethers theorem applies. For example in an
accelerating frame the lagragian does not have this symmetry so does not
apply there. And in GR applying the theorem to even define energy has
problems:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physic...energy_gr.html

Only in quantum physics this law is exactly observed.

Wrong. Learn the facts before posting. For example QM implies the PLA and
energy is not conserved in accelerated systems.

The observance of this law is connected to the formula E=Mc^2
2.
Quantum theory says that at the interaction of the electron
with the vacuum, the energy and mass of it become infinite.

Where do you get that from?

Bill

It means that the law of conservation and transformation energy is
broken.
Unless can it be?
No.
Honor and glory to mathematicians.
They thought up " a method of renormalization ", a method
" to sweep the dust under the carpet " / Feynman./ and so
they solved this problem.
But what process is really connected with
the " method of renormalization "?
Please, remember, electron is not a professional mathematician,
but it maybe a particle, maybe a wave.
3.
The physicists say that electron is eternal particle because
it has less electric charge and therefore it cannot break-up.
So, how can electron keep its eternal condition?
How can electron escape its infinity?
How to understand the fact of
"conservation and transformation energy" of electron?
4.
Electron is the particle which has a form of a sphere
(geoid), having energy E=hw.
But everybody knows that an electron is not a firm sphere.
Everybody knows that its form can be changed.
But nobody understands the borders of its change.
Electron cannot disappear .
Electron can only change its form.
So, what are the borders of this change?
5.
According to the law of conservation and transformation energy:
a)
Electron, having the geometrical form of a sphere,
loses their volume (density) and turns into an indefinitely
flat circle (C/D=pi).
What does "indefinitely flat circle " mean?
It means, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
and we cannot reach density of the electron in the rest .
b)
In the interaction of the electron with vacuum
transformation of the kinetic energy of an electron ( E=hw)
in its potential energy E=Mc^2 take place.
c)
It is impossible to understand the "last essence of electron"
dividing its geometrical form from energy.
The geometrical form and energy of electron
are united together inseparably .

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socratus wrote:
1.
In classical physics this law exactly is not observed.
Only in quantum physics this law is exactly observed.
The observance of this law is connected to the formula E=Mc^2
2.
Quantum theory says that at the interaction of the electron
with the vacuum, the energy and mass of it become infinite.

Actually, no, it doesn't say that.
What it says is that if you apply one of the common computational
methods that is used in quantum mechanics (perturbation theory), the
result of that computational method is at first blush nonsense, because
it gives infinity as answers for things that we know are not infinite.
This does not mean that quantum mechanics is broken. It just tells you
that one of the computational methods used isn't as useful right out of
the box as one might hope. So then the question is whether there is a
plausible way to fix up the computational method so that the bad
behavior of the tool is corrected. The answer is, after some serious
thinking, yes. Renormalization is a plausible variation to the method
of perturbative expansion which, it turns out, ends up giving a lot of
answers that match up with experiment. Many people continue to be
concerned about why the variation in the method is necessary at all,
and others are concerned that the variation of the method is somehow
mathematically ill-formed.

Just to expand on this a little. The methods work perfectly if you impose a
cutoff in energy (ie only consider energies below a certain value) -
infinites do not appear. Renormalisable theories have a very remarkable
property - the cutoff can be expressible in terms of physical constants of
the theory eg in QED the equations can be rearranged so that the cutoff
appears in the values of an electrons charge and mass. As the cutoff
approaches infinity (ie is removed) the charge and mass become infinite.
However any experiments we do are done at a certain energy scale and we only
need to use the charge and mass at that scale. And long before these terms
become infinite we believe another theory takes over. Pictorially the idea
that an electrons charge depends on the energy scale is seen when we note in
the vacuum electrons and positrons flit in an and out of existence. During
that time the electrons are repelled by the field and the positrons
attracted. This tends to screen the charge so its value depends on what
energy you are measuring it at. Also renormalisable theories have another
very remarkable property - except for those physical quantities that
secretly depend on the cutoff anything else does not.

As a further aside the guy I spoke to about my masters teaches perturbation
theory (a course I hope to take). He personally is unsure if this is an
artifact of the perturbation methods used or it is telling us something
about the underlying physics. But he also readily admits his background is
mathematical chemistry - not physics.

Thanks
Bill


The math used in quantum mechanics is a *tool*, just like a socket
wrench is a *tool* for a car mechanic. If a socket turns out to strip
the head of a bolt rather than loosen the bolt, then the tool is not
doing what you had hoped it would do. A variation of the tool is
required, which may include some novelty:
http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...erid=20920045/

PD

Another example.
SRT says mass and energy become infinite at the speed of light c=1.
But only quantum of light has speed c=1.
All other particles have speed v=s/t and they cannot reach speed c=1.
Quantum of light is a real particle.
Its parameters are not infinity but limited.
So, which form does a quantum of light have?
Only form of a indefinitely flat circle (C/D=pi).
What does "an indefinitely flat circle " mean?
It means, that we cannot reach Absolute Vacuum T=0K
and we cannot reach density of the quantum of light .
================
Nowadays, the law of preservation and transformation of energy is
received in physics as a simple bookkeeping calculation of
debit-credit.
It is a primitive judgment about one of the most important Law in
Nature.
Why?
Because debit-credit is " a bookkeeping symmetry law".
And the life begins with disturb of symmetry.
The occurrence of Life is connected not with symmetry,
but with breaking of symmetry.
For something to happen there has to be a "broken symmetry".