George Hammond wrote:


I AM GRATEFUL TO YOU JOHN VOGEL FOR SOMEHOW
NOTICING ME ON THE USENET PHYSICS NEWSGROUPS
AND EXTENDING A GREETING FROM THE EVANGELICAL
CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY TO THIS PHYSICIST WHO HAS
ACCIDENTALLY STUMBLED UPON THE WORLD'S FIRST
SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD .. AND WHO IS DESPERATELY
SEEKING CONTACT WITH THE MAINSTREAM
EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY.


John, I hope that we can soon find the time to begin a
dialogue between the discovery of a SCIENTIFIC PROOF
OF GOD on the one hand, and the immense forces of
the new Global Evangelical Christian satellite ministry,
and that perhaps you might be instrumental in introducing
Hammond and his scientific discovery to mainstream
Evangelical Christianity for whom you seem to be such
an able and popular spokesman.
Hopefully, this new alliance between Science and Christianity
in the form of the world's first scientific proof of God will
now allow Science to finally make its contribution to a new
and improved, and hopefully now gloriously triumphant
Christianity.... and all that means to the poor and
oppressed peoples of the Earth.

Have you told him yet, George, that God is just a figment of your mind?

Gary Eickmeier

John Vogel wrote:

I hope you don't take my lack of responses to your posts as a lack of
interest or respect. On the contrary, it is due to my respect for, and
interest in your work that I hesitate to reply. I have very limited
time, at present, so I have to limit my posting habits to the
"hit-and-run" variety that you noted above. I wouldn't be so callous as
to answer your posts in such a fashion, however, without putting more
thought into my reply... therefore requiring more time to formulate the
reply.

I would very much like to open a discussion, in the very near future,
if I can allot the time to persue a rational, intelligent overview of
SPOG with you. I would consider it a priveledge. Unfortunately, I don't
know when I will be able to allot such a time to persue this. I am
going out of town on Tuesday, but I should have time Thursday... if
nothing comes up.

What I would very much like to do is to post my own (albeit very
limited) understanding of SPOG and the implications I see in it, then
have you examine my understanding, and elucidate points I may be weak
in. This, I believe, would help me (and hopefully others) come to a
more comprehensive understanding of SPOG.

I think the world is in for a shock when Hammonds SPOG is finally
grasped along with all of it's inherent implications and consequences,
by serious physicists, psychiatrists and theologians. I wonder if the
world is ready for this?

The reason for my incredulity on your posts, John, is that no real
person can be this stupid. I can't wait until I can read your analysis
of "the SPOG."

Gary Eickmeier

George Hammond wrote:
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At any rate........... YOU ARE EXACTLY THE KIND OF PERSON
I AM ANXIOUS TO TALK TO ........ not because we are similar
.... but because we are so different!
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*Thus spake God's Creator*


*Only stupid people use arguing , to try and learn*

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Wise men study unknown and mysterious things, to enhance their wisdom.
While stupid men shout, kneel down, close their eyes and mumble...

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-- God's Creator! --




( *Sorry... I don't forgive ****!* ) :-)
--
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Psstt.... Hey! --- USED GODS SALE! : http://www.godchecker.com/
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Go get lost in India, I bet they'd love you there.


God's Creator wrote:
George Hammond wrote:
[.........]

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At any rate........... YOU ARE EXACTLY THE KIND OF PERSON
I AM ANXIOUS TO TALK TO ........ not because we are similar
.... but because we are so different!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


*Thus spake God's Creator*


*Only stupid people use arguing , to try and learn*

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wise men study unknown and mysterious things, to enhance their wisdom.
While stupid men shout, kneel down, close their eyes and mumble...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-- God's Creator! --




( *Sorry... I don't forgive ****!* ) :-)
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Psstt.... Hey! --- USED GODS SALE! : http://www.godchecker.com/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

"George Hammond" wrote in message
...


[Hammond]
The above judgement by John Vogel is of course not only PRIMA FACIE
CORRECT it is in fact the only FAIR, RATIONAL AND COMPETENT assessment
that has been made of Usenet's now notorious and scurrilous reception
of Hammond!

As you can see [Hammond] continues his habit of capitalising words he
doesn't understand. Bravo sir.

"George Hammond" wrote in message
ink.net...
[GEORGE HAMMOND]
John, I have taken the time to research your posting history
which consists of about 1,500 messages in the past 5 years,
mainly to christian religious discussion groups, such as:

alt.religion.christian
alt.flame.jesus.christ
alt.christnet.prayer
alt.bible-errancy
alt.christnet.bible
alt.flame
alt.bible
alt.atheism
talk.religion
alt.liar.john.vogel
alt.christian.religion
soc.religion.bible-study
etc.
etc.

after reading a number of these discussion threads, I gathered
the following information:

John Vogel is 6' tall, 200 lbs, 30 something and married with
children. He is quite active on the Internet in the realm of
Evangelical Christian activity and might even be employed in
that area. His brand of evangalism is similar to the
_DAYSTAR_ brand of public media Christian Ministry and
Vogel appears to be quite popular and well known on Usenet.

STALKER ALERT!!!!!

George, calm down a little. Stalking is a sin against your brain.

idiot...

On Dec 6, 11:42 pm, Rusty Shackleford
wrote:
idiot...

Sticks and stones.......

Don Stockbauer wrote:
On Dec 6, 11:42 pm, Rusty Shackleford
wrote:
idiot...

Sticks and stones.......


....Some "sticks and stones" are perfect tools for a job and this is one
of those situations.

Perhaps Richard Feynman was a human being with genuine emotions and not
just brilliant. Feynman was also an eccentric and had a great sense of
humour. Most likely he wrote as a way of grieving or expressing his loss.

I doubt very much that Feynman actually believed that dead people have
addresses in an afterlife. Even if he did believe in an afterlife, that
would have been his personal belief, which is different from fact.

It is far more likely that he *hoped*, in the same way that all mortals
hope. Certain things should not be taken literally and the poster is an
idiot for not being able to distinguish.

....But *fraud* or aspiring cult leader are just as suitable titles for
this poster.