kenseto wrote:
kenseto wrote:
ROTFLOL.....this idiot said that space is not a material substance
though it does have properties. It can push things around and it can
expand faster than light and carries the galaxies along with it as it
expands.

PD:
That's right.

KS:
Only an idiot would say that and at the time time claim that space is
not a material substance.

Really? And you, as a layman, are equipped to make that judgement?



Do you expect us laymen to accept any bull **** that you spew out??

PD:
That depends on the layman. In your case, I have no expectations
whatsoever.
You seem to equate "correct" with "obvious even to an idiot".
That would be an incorrect equation.
Something can be quite correct, even though it is not obvious to an
idiot.

KS:
Your idiocy is based on the following:
1. You admitted that space is not nothingness but you refuse to call
space a material medium.

That's right. You seem to have difficulty with that concept.

1. you rejected the existence of an ether and you reject the notion
that space can be called the ether.

Ether is a material substance. There is no experimental evidence
whatsoever that space is a material substance.

2. at the same time you endowed the empty space (non-existence of the
ether) with lots of physical properties that are properties of the
ether.

And yet space is also absent the properties of a material ether; for
example, a compressive modulus, mass density, or frequency-dependent
dispersion. Space certainly has physical properties, but not those of a
*material* medium that an ether would be required to have. Furthermore,
none of the physical properties of space require a material medium for
the presence of those properties.


Your truly are a brainwashed idiot.

Well, I'd put it a different way. I'd say I've been sufficiently
educated to be able to distinguish the properties of space and the
properties of a material medium. This is something you seem to have
difficulty with.

It's not too late to correct that, however.

PD

ROTFLOL....so calling ether by a different name is a refutation of the
ether. You are an idiot.

"kenseto" wrote in message
oups.com...
ROTFLOL....so calling ether by a different name is a refutation of
the
ether. You are an idiot.

Why is that those who have plenty of back up for their positions
generally avoid such rudeness and blatant insults, and those who have
no support for their positions resort to such tactics as a normal part
of their debating style?

(BTW, no answer to that question is required)

kenseto wrote:
ROTFLOL....so calling ether by a different name is a refutation of the
ether. You are an idiot.

No, it is not calling ether by a different name. Let me repeat my
statement, more slowly.

A n e t h e r i s a m a t e r i a l s u b s t a n c e w i t
h m a t e r i a l p r o p e r t i e s t h a t s p a c e d o e
s n o t s h a r e . T h e p r o p e r t i e s o f s p a c e
d o n o t i m p l y a m a t e r i a l m e d i u m .

PD

Let me repeat what I said slowly....you don't know what material
substance mean. You assigned the term material substance to ether but
you have no idea what is an ether. You said that space is not the ether
but since you don't know what is space so how can you made such a
stupid statement?????

kenseto wrote:
Steven Weinberg said that a field is stress in space. Doesn't that
sound like that space is a material medium that can have stress? If so
how is a field different than the ether?

No since a field is not a stress.
It's a stress-strain transformation as Einstein quite clearly
showed.
Since a stress is nothing but a volume conataining a
volatile mixture of mass and energy as E=MC^2 also ahows.

The ether is diiferent from a field since it's
Maxwell's theory of light, not a field.

kenseto wrote:
Let me repeat what I said slowly....you don't know what material
substance mean. You assigned the term material substance to ether but
you have no idea what is an ether. You said that space is not the ether
but since you don't know what is space so how can you made such a
stupid statement?????

On the contrary, I listed several properties of space, and I listed
several properties of a material medium (like an ether). I understand
the difference. You apparently do not. I'm not surprised. You have not
taken the effort to learn the basics or read enough to be able to make
the distinction.

PD

kenseto wrote:
Let me repeat what I said slowly....you don't know what material
substance mean. You assigned the term material substance to ether but
you have no idea what is an ether. You said that space is not the ether
but since you don't know what is space so how can you made such a
stupid statement?????

PD wrote:
On the contrary, I listed several properties of space, and I listed
several properties of a material medium (like an ether). I understand
the difference. You apparently do not. I'm not surprised. You have not
taken the effort to learn the basics or read enough to be able to make
the distinction.

KS:
Hey idiot those properties of space that you listed are the properties
of an ether. All the properties you listed for a material substance can
be the properties of a material substance (such as the electron)
interacting with the structure (the geometry) of the ether.

kenseto wrote:
kenseto wrote:
Let me repeat what I said slowly....you don't know what material
substance mean. You assigned the term material substance to ether but
you have no idea what is an ether. You said that space is not the ether
but since you don't know what is space so how can you made such a
stupid statement?????

PD wrote:
On the contrary, I listed several properties of space, and I listed
several properties of a material medium (like an ether). I understand
the difference. You apparently do not. I'm not surprised. You have not
taken the effort to learn the basics or read enough to be able to make
the distinction.

KS:
Hey idiot those properties of space that you listed are the properties
of an ether.

Really? List the properties I gave you and explain how they are
properties of an ether.

All the properties you listed for a material substance can
be the properties of a material substance

Gotta love that statement...

(such as the electron)
interacting with the structure (the geometry) of the ether.