We all know the endless discussions about one of the
twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
Lorentz.

Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
possible, simple answers.


We have the earth move at 0.6 c through our galaxy,
more precisely the earth moves at 0.6 c wrt the
average mass distribution of the universe.

Galaxus, one of the twins, is launched in a rocket,
and accelerates away from Earth till he reaches
immoblility wrt to the galaxy, more precisely :
immobile wrt the average mass distribution of the
universe.

That's it.

According to your viewpoint, will the Galaxus's clock
run :

1 - slower than the Earth's clocks
2 - faster than the Earth's clocks

Just an answer please, don't knows, can't knows please
abstain. This is a bet, based on the predictive power
of your pov, and we might never know the real answer.

My bet is on answer 2 : faster.

Uwe Hayek.

--
This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
knowledge but no power.
Herodotus (484 BC - 430 BC), The Histories of Herodotus

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the
ability to learn from the experience of others, are
also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See

Dear Hayek:

"Hayek" wrote in message
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2 - faster than the Earth's clocks

Would be my guess.

And GPS satellites could verify this, since some of them orbit
towards and away from the anisotropy in the CMBR.

David A. Smith

"Hayek" wrote in message
...
|
| We all know the endless discussions about one of the
| twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
| Lorentz.
|
| Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
| possible, simple answers.
|
|
| We have the earth move at 0.6 c through our galaxy,
| more precisely the earth moves at 0.6 c wrt the
| average mass distribution of the universe.
|
| Galaxus, one of the twins, is launched in a rocket,
| and accelerates away from Earth till he reaches
| immoblility wrt to the galaxy, more precisely :
| immobile wrt the average mass distribution of the
| universe.
|
| That's it.
|
| According to your viewpoint, will the Galaxus's clock
| run :
|
| 1 - slower than the Earth's clocks
| 2 - faster than the Earth's clocks

| Just an answer please, don't knows, can't knows please
| abstain. This is a bet, based on the predictive power
| of your pov, and we might never know the real answer.
|
| My bet is on answer 2 : faster.
|
| Uwe Hayek.

****ing hell. I DO know.

3 - EXACTLY THE SAME AS EARTH'S CLOCKS.
Pay up, you lose, we already know the real answer.

http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...ynchronize.htm

As Roberts the idiot relativist says, "Real has nothing to do with it",
but of course he's wrong as usual, real has everything to do with it.

Androcles.
|
| --
| This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
| knowledge but no power.
| Herodotus (484 BC - 430 BC), The Histories of Herodotus
|
| Human beings, who are almost unique in having the
| ability to learn from the experience of others, are
| also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
| do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See
|

Hexenmeister wrote:

{snip}

Isn't science easy when you just write down what you think the answer
is without even looking?

Hayek wrote:
We all know the endless discussions about one of the
twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
Lorentz.

Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
possible, simple answers.


We have the earth move at 0.6 c through our galaxy,
more precisely the earth moves at 0.6 c wrt the
average mass distribution of the universe.

Galaxus, one of the twins, is launched in a rocket,
and accelerates away from Earth till he reaches
immoblility wrt to the galaxy, more precisely :
immobile wrt the average mass distribution of the
universe.

That's it.

According to your viewpoint, will the Galaxus's clock
run :

1 - slower than the Earth's clocks
2 - faster than the Earth's clocks

None of the above.
I strapped a garden hose to Galaxus's wrist
and the other end is within sight of Big Ben where
the royal astronomer inserts a colored marble
once per minute. )

Sue...

[PDF] On Einstein's resolution of the twin clock paradoxFile Format:
PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Gravitation Group, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Homi Bhabha
Road, Mumbai 400 005, India. Einstein addressed the twin paradox in
special ...
http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/dec252005/2009.pdf


Just an answer please, don't knows, can't knows please
abstain. This is a bet, based on the predictive power
of your pov, and we might never know the real answer.

My bet is on answer 2 : faster.

Uwe Hayek.

--
This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
knowledge but no power.
Herodotus (484 BC - 430 BC), The Histories of Herodotus

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the
ability to learn from the experience of others, are
also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See

Hayek:

We all know the endless discussions about one of the
twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
Lorentz.

Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
possible, simple answers.


We have the earth move at 0.6 c through our galaxy,
more precisely the earth moves at 0.6 c wrt the
average mass distribution of the universe.

Galaxus, one of the twins, is launched in a rocket,
and accelerates away from Earth till he reaches
immoblility wrt to the galaxy, more precisely :
immobile wrt the average mass distribution of the
universe.

That's it.

According to your viewpoint, will the Galaxus's clock
run :

1 - slower than the Earth's clocks
2 - faster than the Earth's clocks

Just an answer please, don't knows, can't knows please
abstain. This is a bet, based on the predictive power
of your pov, and we might never know the real answer.

OK. I'll bet that you are still an idiot.


My bet is on answer 2 : faster.

Uwe Hayek.

--
This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
knowledge but no power.
Herodotus (484 BC - 430 BC), The Histories of Herodotus

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the
ability to learn from the experience of others, are
also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See

Sue... wrote: Hayek wrote: -=- SNiP -=-
None of the above.
I strapped a garden hose to Galaxus's wrist
and the other end is within sight of Big Ben where
the royal astronomer inserts a colored marble
once per minute. )

Sue...
$$ Newton's Garden Hose.
$$ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_potential
QUOTE Propagation [ Newton's cradle analogy ]
Propagating action potentials can be modeled by joining several RC
circuits, each one representing a patch of membrane.

In unmyelinated axons, action potentials propagate as an
interaction between passively spreading membrane depolarization
and voltage-gated sodium channels. When one patch of cell membrane
is depolarized enough to open its voltage-gated sodium channels,
sodium ions enter the cell by facilitated diffusion.
Once inside, positively-charged sodium ions "nudge" adjacent
ions down the axon by electrostatic repulsion (analogous to the
principle behind Newton's cradle) and attract negative ions away
from the adjacent membrane. As a result, a wave of positivity
moves down the axon without any individual ion moving very far.
Once the adjacent patch of membrane is depolarized, the
voltage-gated sodium channels in that patch open, regenerating
the cycle. The process repeats itself down the length of the
axon, with an action potential regenerated at each segment of
membrane. UNQUOTE

$$ You assume the middle balls of Newton's Cradle are all in
$$ a garden-hose, instead of simply hanging-in on the cradle.
$$ Sincerely, ```Brian A M Stuckless, Ph.T (Tivity).
Newton's Cradle.
Newton's Garden Hose.

Sue... wrote:

Hayek wrote:

We all know the endless discussions about one of the
twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
Lorentz.

Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
possible, simple answers.


We have the earth move at 0.6 c through our galaxy,
more precisely the earth moves at 0.6 c wrt the
average mass distribution of the universe.

Galaxus, one of the twins, is launched in a rocket,
and accelerates away from Earth till he reaches
immoblility wrt to the galaxy, more precisely :
immobile wrt the average mass distribution of the
universe.

That's it.

According to your viewpoint, will the Galaxus's clock
run :

1 - slower than the Earth's clocks
2 - faster than the Earth's clocks


None of the above.
I strapped a garden hose to Galaxus's wrist
and the other end is within sight of Big Ben where
the royal astronomer inserts a colored marble
once per minute. )

Sue...

[PDF] On Einstein's resolution of the twin clock paradoxFile Format:
PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Gravitation Group, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Homi Bhabha
Road, Mumbai 400 005, India. Einstein addressed the twin paradox in
special ...
http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/dec252005/2009.pdf

Quote from this pdf :
"The failure of the accepted views and
resolutions is traced to the fact that the special
relativity principle formulated originally for physics
in empty space is not valid in the matter-filled
universe."
UNQUOTE

I stated that it was in a matter filled universe.

Thanks for the link, I will read the whole document
attentively and comment more extensively later.


Just an answer please, don't knows, can't knows please
abstain.

Do you read this ?

Uwe Hayek.

This is a bet, based on the predictive power
of your pov, and we might never know the real answer.

My bet is on answer 2 : faster.

Uwe Hayek.

--
This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
knowledge but no power.
Herodotus (484 BC - 430 BC), The Histories of Herodotus

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the
ability to learn from the experience of others, are
also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See



--
This is the bitterest pain among men, to have much
knowledge but no power.
Herodotus (484 BC - 430 BC), The Histories of Herodotus

Human beings, who are almost unique in having the
ability to learn from the experience of others, are
also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to
do so. -- Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See

Hayek wrote:
Sue... wrote:

Hayek wrote:

We all know the endless discussions about one of the
twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
Lorentz.

Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
possible, simple answers.


We have the earth move at 0.6 c through our galaxy,
more precisely the earth moves at 0.6 c wrt the
average mass distribution of the universe.

Galaxus, one of the twins, is launched in a rocket,
and accelerates away from Earth till he reaches
immoblility wrt to the galaxy, more precisely :
immobile wrt the average mass distribution of the
universe.

That's it.

According to your viewpoint, will the Galaxus's clock
run :

1 - slower than the Earth's clocks
2 - faster than the Earth's clocks


None of the above.
I strapped a garden hose to Galaxus's wrist
and the other end is within sight of Big Ben where
the royal astronomer inserts a colored marble
once per minute. )

Sue...

[PDF] On Einstein's resolution of the twin clock paradoxFile Format:
PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
Gravitation Group, Tata Institute of Fundamental Research, Homi Bhabha
Road, Mumbai 400 005, India. Einstein addressed the twin paradox in
special ...
http://www.iisc.ernet.in/currsci/dec252005/2009.pdf

Quote from this pdf :
"The failure of the accepted views and
resolutions is traced to the fact that the special
relativity principle formulated originally for physics
in empty space is not valid in the matter-filled
universe."
UNQUOTE

I stated that it was in a matter filled universe

But you didn't offer the the correct answer for a
matter filled universe.

Sue...


Thanks for the link, I will read the whole document
attentively and comment more extensively later.


Just an answer please, don't knows, can't knows please
abstain.

Do you read this ?

Uwe Hayek.

This is a bet, based on the predictive power
of your pov, and we might never know the real answer.

My bet is on answer 2 : faster.

Uwe Hayek.

--

"Hayek" wrote in message ...

We all know the endless discussions about one of the
twins chasing the stars and coming back, about SR and
Lorentz.

We all know how imbeciles like you have the struggle
of their life with it.


Here is a "relatively" simple question, with two
possible, simple answers.

What would an imbecile like you who claims that "HIV does
not cause AIDS" do with simple answers?
http://groups.google.com/groups/sear...hayek+aids+hiv


Dirk Vdm