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If Gravity is slowing/stopping Big Bang then Relativity is impossible??



 
 
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Old February 20th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default If Gravity is slowing/stopping Big Bang then Relativity is impossible??


I think I read that as Mass increased then its Gravity is what is
slowing the cosmic expansion.

If Gravity can slow inflation traveling at the speed of light then
shouldn't the Relativity be impossible "since" the
energy/waves/particle were all expanding at the SAME SPEED wrt each
other???

1. Perhaps its because they were traveling same as Sun Rays at an arc
angle from each other therefore not the same velocity wrt each other?

2. Why isn't all mass at the same distance away from the singularity,
why are some expanding further than Earth, it's not because they are
lighter that they are further away and traveling at a faster expansion
velocity (I can't imagine the Bang as anything but instantaneous as
opposed to a continuous stream)?

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Old February 20th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Default If Gravity is slowing/stopping Big Bang then Relativity is impossible??

On 20 Feb 2006 10:18:05 -0800, "
wrote:

I think I read that as Mass increased then its Gravity is what is
slowing the cosmic expansion.


I think you misinterpreted what you read then. Mas does
not increase unless more mass is added some way.

Also, it was originally assumed that the recession of the
galaxies was slowing due to gravity, but recent measurements
has tha assuption in questiion.

If Gravity can slow inflation traveling at the speed of light


Nothing can slow anything movintg at the speed of
light without touching it.

then shouldn't the Relativity be impossible "since" the
energy/waves/particle were all expanding at the SAME SPEED wrt each
other???


Sorry, but the above assumes several different things that
are not correct.

1. Perhaps its because they were traveling same as Sun Rays at an arc
angle from each other therefore not the same velocity wrt each other?


Please do not let yourself make assumptions based on
incorrect assumptions or interpretations. If you do, many
of them will be impressed in your memory and be very difficult
to erase.
This is exactly how the many nutcases posting here got
so goofy, they imagined things, and nothing will likely ever
erase those beliefs. This is exactly the kind of thing many
people are in institutions, they are unable to mentally correct
prior assumptions, interpretations or hallucinations.

2. Why isn't all mass at the same distance away from the singularity,


There is no singularity related to the Big Bang Burger Bar
or the observed recession of the galaxies.
Chances are there are no singularities of any kind, why do
you think physicists don't like the idea of singularities?

why are some expanding further than Earth,


What does that mean, the Earth is always a little less
than 8000 miles in diameter.

it's not because they are
lighter that they are further away and traveling at a faster expansion
velocity


Most all things visibile in the sky are many times heavier
than the Earth.

(I can't imagine the Bang as anything but instantaneous as
opposed to a continuous stream)?


That is silly, nothing of any great size can change very
fast, let alond instantaneously.

Please wait until you can take formal classes in relativity
before you form any opinions that will make you unhappy and
make you seem to be a real nutcase to scientists.

Joe Fischer

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Old February 20th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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I think I read that as Mass increased then its Gravity is what is
slowing the cosmic expansion.


Nope. In fact the evidence is that it is accelerating - this is the issue
of dark energy
http://www.firstscience.com/SITE/ARTICLES/dark.asp


If Gravity can slow inflation traveling at the speed of light


What makes you think inflation happened at the speed of light?

then
shouldn't the Relativity be impossible "since" the
energy/waves/particle were all expanding at the SAME SPEED wrt each
other???


Your logic escapes me.


1. Perhaps its because they were traveling same as Sun Rays at an arc
angle from each other therefore not the same velocity wrt each other?

2. Why isn't all mass at the same distance away from the singularity,


Perhaps because they had different initial velocities. Besides it is
space-time that is expanding - mass is taken along with it.
http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html

why are some expanding further than Earth, it's not because they are
lighter that they are further away and traveling at a faster expansion
velocity (I can't imagine the Bang as anything but instantaneous as
opposed to a continuous stream)?


Then that is a failure of your imagination - not the facts. Inflation says
it did not happen instantaneously
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_inflation

Bill


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Old February 20th 06 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Joe right you are. The universe is not gaining more mass,but every day
its rate of expansion increases. Accelerating creates greater
inertia,and inertia and gravity are the same thing. TreBert

 




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