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Old December 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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http://www.simplegravity.com/#gravitywheel

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Old December 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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In sci.physics.relativity, Nick Summers

wrote
on Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:33:42 GMT
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http://www.simplegravity.com/#gravitywheel


The following is called "Steven's Principle":

If an assumed (virtual) motion of the machine results in a final
state of the system (the machine and its interactive environment)
indistinguishable from its initial state, and zero net work is done
on the system during this motion (no work in; no work out) then
that assumed motion will not occur.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum...htm#stevinprob

The statement is attributed to Simon Steven, a Flemish mathematician
and engineer and his disproving of a ball-ramp device, but it works
equally well here for your gravity-harnessing machine.

Also, your system is very close and possibly identical to the
gravity shield engine:

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum...k.htm#gravshld

In short: it no workey.


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Old December 13th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Nick Summers wrote:
http://www.simplegravity.com/#gravitywheel

Nick


Your machine would only work if the gravitational field were not
conservative; but it is conservative, so the machine won't work. If
you work through the math, you can show that it won't work.

Paul Cardinale

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"Nick Summers" wrote in message
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http://www.simplegravity.com/#gravitywheel

Nick



Every atom that moves deeper into the gravity well as the wheel spins has to
then move back out of that gravity well as it moves back towards the "right
side", right? That requires an equal amount of energy, so there is no
imbalance to cause the wheel to spin at all.

The use of a lead bar on top of the earth is just a graphical trick to make
you forget about the "shape" of the gravity well. Draw in some lines
representing equal gravitational force and you'll quickly see the setup
can't possibly work.

-Howard



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Old December 14th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity
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Nick Summers wrote:
http://www.simplegravity.com/#gravitywheel


We understand it work for idiots like physicists.
And if perpetual motion had anything to do with work
people would actually buy their patents, now and then,
rather than just simply filing all of them
with Disney and under the heading of
"What idiots and Micheal Moore do with Wave Machines".







Nick


 




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