Howard wrote:
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The only reason it's not a paradox is because it only works
in ONE experiment. The moron Hubble Telescope and
Red Shifting. It doesn't work in blue shifting, since
Astronomers are PBS NOVA morons.

It doesn't work in Solar Eclipses since mathematicians
are 100% cetrified Boeing / Google / World Trade Center
Social Scientists and EVE Doppler Morons, rather than
scientists.


Wow, what a fun group! I'm new here, and so far I must say I'm enjoying
this immensely. Kind of like watching a junior high class, without its
teacher. And on meth.

I should think that the junior high class would operate on a more civil
and intelligent level than occurs here. Nearly everybody here thinks
that he is God's defender of TRUTH. Sounds like you are sort of
enamoured by the Wormtongues here.


If the above quote is indicative of the quality of discussion here, perhaps
I've misunderstood the purpose of the group...?

The purpose of this group is to talk about relativity in a adult and
civil manner. That doesn't happen and never will. I see nothing
entertaining about that, but suit yourself.

I do have some questions about SR, but I see the FAQ has a lot to offer, so
I'm going there for a while, and I'll just watch this space in the meantime.

Direct your relativity questions to Tom Roberts.

[snip]

Another day, more whining from Pentcho Valev.

http://bip.cnrs-mrs.fr/bip10/valevfaq.htm

"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
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Poincare never accepted the reciprocity of time dilation and length
contraction, [1] although as a mathematician he should have been less
sensitive to physical absurdity. Roughly speaking, he was the last
scientist with an intact rationality. The moment people started
worshipping at the idiocy according to which either observer measures
the other observer's clock to be slower than his own, or passengers in
the train measure the tunnel to be shorter than the train whereas
observers in the tunnel measure the train to be shorter than the
tunnel, a revolution took place. Humanity entered a world where the
supernatural is natural. A huge army of zombies systematically destroy
those who would continue to call it "supernatural". Dieu est toujours
pour les plus gros bataillons. Rational criticism is impossible: [2] you
cannot refute truths like "The greenness of the crocodile exceeds its
length".
Pentcho Valev

"Harry" yodels
Actually, he [1] was the first to highlight the group property
of the LT... (Lorentz tranformation)


[1] Poincare was every like mathematician iin 1900,
He worshipped Maxwell Equations and Groups so much,
he had no clue what physics was.
Which DeBroglie was doing, rather than Poincare.
Roughly speaking, he was the last scientist with an intact rationality
Exactly speaking Poincare was last person in the entire
uiviverse that believed that Cantor's diagonal proof
had something to do with science.
[2] The only reason it's not a paradox is because it only works
in ONE experiment. The moron Hubble Telescope and
Red Shifting. It doesn't work in blue shifting, since
Astronomers are PBS NOVA morons.
It doesn't work in Solar Eclipses since mathematicians
are 100% cetrified Boeing / Google / World Trade Center
Social Scientists and EVE Doppler Morons, rather than
scientists.

"Howard"
Wow, what a fun group! I'm new here, and so far I must say
I'm enjoying this immensely. Kind of like watching a junior high class,
without its teacher. And on meth.
If the above quote is indicative of the quality of discussion here,
perhaps I've misunderstood the purpose of the group...?
I do have some questions about SR, but I see the FAQ has a lot to
offer, so I'm going there for a while, and I'll just watch this space in
the meantime. Looks like this is gonna be a fun ride...
I'm only interested in sci.physics.relativity. (But from the looks
of it so far, perhaps it should be renamed psycho.relativity?)
Howard

[hanson]
.... ahahaha... besides your rather self-centered take ( 9 "I" 's ) you
have hit the nail on the head. This is a marvelous hangout... a 24/7
cyber party patronized by very, very intensely focused scholars who
reveal, at times, that physics is not only social enterprise, but that
indeed it is the cradle of the religion of the future... with sectarian
rifts occurring as we speak. It is not clear yet whether today's event
is analog to the Xian/Jew split or the Islam/(Xian-Jew) tear-off.
The operative prophet/saint/reincarnation has not yet materialized
in this here august cyber realm... But welcome to the choir, Howie.
Have a seat and "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!"
ahahaha... ahahanson

"Howard" wrote in message ...

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The only reason it's not a paradox is because it only works
in ONE experiment. The moron Hubble Telescope and
Red Shifting. It doesn't work in blue shifting, since
Astronomers are PBS NOVA morons.

It doesn't work in Solar Eclipses since mathematicians
are 100% cetrified Boeing / Google / World Trade Center
Social Scientists and EVE Doppler Morons, rather than
scientists.


Wow, what a fun group! I'm new here, and so far I must say I'm enjoying
this immensely. Kind of like watching a junior high class, without its
teacher. And on meth.

If the above quote is indicative of the quality of discussion here, perhaps
I've misunderstood the purpose of the group...?

I do have some questions about SR, but I see the FAQ has a lot to offer, so
I'm going there for a while, and I'll just watch this space in the meantime.

Looks like this is gonna be a fun ride...

You surely write (and have a message header) like someone
who has been around here for a very long time and has been
enjoying that fun ride ever since. Congratulations.

Dirk Vdm

"Dirk Van de moortel" wrote
in message ...

"Howard" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
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The only reason it's not a paradox is because it only works
in ONE experiment. The moron Hubble Telescope and
Red Shifting. It doesn't work in blue shifting, since
Astronomers are PBS NOVA morons.

It doesn't work in Solar Eclipses since mathematicians
are 100% cetrified Boeing / Google / World Trade Center
Social Scientists and EVE Doppler Morons, rather than
scientists.


Wow, what a fun group! I'm new here, and so far I must say I'm enjoying
this immensely. Kind of like watching a junior high class, without its
teacher. And on meth.

If the above quote is indicative of the quality of discussion here,
perhaps
I've misunderstood the purpose of the group...?

I do have some questions about SR, but I see the FAQ has a lot to offer,
so
I'm going there for a while, and I'll just watch this space in the
meantime.

Looks like this is gonna be a fun ride...

You surely write (and have a message header) like someone
who has been around here for a very long time and has been
enjoying that fun ride ever since. Congratulations.

Dirk Vdm


Perhaps I was a wee bit too heavy on the sarcasm...? :-) Sorry.

and back to the FAQ I go...

-Howard

"hanson" wrote in message
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
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Poincare never accepted the reciprocity of time dilation and length
contraction, [1] although as a mathematician he should have been less
sensitive to physical absurdity. Roughly speaking, he was the last
scientist with an intact rationality. The moment people started
worshipping at the idiocy according to which either observer measures
the other observer's clock to be slower than his own, or passengers in
the train measure the tunnel to be shorter than the train whereas
observers in the tunnel measure the train to be shorter than the
tunnel, a revolution took place. Humanity entered a world where the
supernatural is natural. A huge army of zombies systematically destroy
those who would continue to call it "supernatural". Dieu est toujours
pour les plus gros bataillons. Rational criticism is impossible: [2] you
cannot refute truths like "The greenness of the crocodile exceeds its
length".
Pentcho Valev

"Harry" yodels
Actually, he [1] was the first to highlight the group property
of the LT... (Lorentz tranformation)


[1] Poincare was every like mathematician iin 1900,
He worshipped Maxwell Equations and Groups so much,
he had no clue what physics was.
Which DeBroglie was doing, rather than Poincare.
Roughly speaking, he was the last scientist with an intact rationality
Exactly speaking Poincare was last person in the entire
uiviverse that believed that Cantor's diagonal proof
had something to do with science.
[2] The only reason it's not a paradox is because it only works
in ONE experiment. The moron Hubble Telescope and
Red Shifting. It doesn't work in blue shifting, since
Astronomers are PBS NOVA morons.
It doesn't work in Solar Eclipses since mathematicians
are 100% cetrified Boeing / Google / World Trade Center
Social Scientists and EVE Doppler Morons, rather than
scientists.

"Howard"
Wow, what a fun group! I'm new here, and so far I must say
I'm enjoying this immensely. Kind of like watching a junior high class,
without its teacher. And on meth.
If the above quote is indicative of the quality of discussion here,
perhaps I've misunderstood the purpose of the group...?
I do have some questions about SR, but I see the FAQ has a lot to
offer, so I'm going there for a while, and I'll just watch this space in
the meantime. Looks like this is gonna be a fun ride...
I'm only interested in sci.physics.relativity. (But from the looks
of it so far, perhaps it should be renamed psycho.relativity?)
Howard

[hanson]
... ahahaha... besides your rather self-centered take ( 9 "I" 's ) you
have hit the nail on the head. This is a marvelous hangout... a 24/7
cyber party patronized by very, very intensely focused scholars who
reveal, at times, that physics is not only social enterprise, but that
indeed it is the cradle of the religion of the future... with sectarian
rifts occurring as we speak. It is not clear yet whether today's event
is analog to the Xian/Jew split or the Islam/(Xian-Jew) tear-off.
The operative prophet/saint/reincarnation has not yet materialized
in this here august cyber realm... But welcome to the choir, Howie.
Have a seat and "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!"
ahahaha... ahahanson


Howie thinks he's Jesus Christ walking into the temple and overturning the
money-changers without getting 20 years to life.
He'll still be crucified, though, even if he turns methamphetamines into
bread
and feeds 5,000 people with fish sandwiches from Long John Silvers because
they were too stupid to bring their own lunch.

Androcles.

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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
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Poincare never accepted the reciprocity of time dilation and length
contraction, [1] although as a mathematician he should have been less
sensitive to physical absurdity. Roughly speaking, he was the last
scientist with an intact rationality. The moment people started
worshipping at the idiocy according to which either observer measures
the other observer's clock to be slower than his own, or passengers in
the train measure the tunnel to be shorter than the train whereas
observers in the tunnel measure the train to be shorter than the
tunnel, a revolution took place. Humanity entered a world where the
supernatural is natural. A huge army of zombies systematically destroy
those who would continue to call it "supernatural". Dieu est toujours
pour les plus gros bataillons. Rational criticism is impossible: [2] you
cannot refute truths like "The greenness of the crocodile exceeds its
length".
Pentcho Valev

"Harry" yodels
Actually, he [1] was the first to highlight the group property
of the LT... (Lorentz tranformation)


[1] Poincare was every like mathematician iin 1900,
He worshipped Maxwell Equations and Groups so much,
he had no clue what physics was.
Which DeBroglie was doing, rather than Poincare.
Roughly speaking, he was the last scientist with an intact rationality
Exactly speaking Poincare was last person in the entire
uiviverse that believed that Cantor's diagonal proof
had something to do with science.
[2] The only reason it's not a paradox is because it only works
in ONE experiment. The moron Hubble Telescope and
Red Shifting. It doesn't work in blue shifting, since
Astronomers are PBS NOVA morons.
It doesn't work in Solar Eclipses since mathematicians
are 100% cetrified Boeing / Google / World Trade Center
Social Scientists and EVE Doppler Morons, rather than
scientists.

"Howard"
Wow, what a fun group! I'm new here, and so far I must say
I'm enjoying this immensely. Kind of like watching a junior high class,
without its teacher. And on meth.
If the above quote is indicative of the quality of discussion here,
perhaps I've misunderstood the purpose of the group...?
I do have some questions about SR, but I see the FAQ has a lot to
offer, so I'm going there for a while, and I'll just watch this space in
the meantime. Looks like this is gonna be a fun ride...
I'm only interested in sci.physics.relativity. (But from the looks
of it so far, perhaps it should be renamed psycho.relativity?)
Howard

[hanson]
... ahahaha... besides your rather self-centered take ( 9 "I" 's ) you
have hit the nail on the head. This is a marvelous hangout... a 24/7
cyber party patronized by very, very intensely focused scholars who
reveal, at times, that physics is not only social enterprise, but that
indeed it is the cradle of the religion of the future... with sectarian
rifts occurring as we speak. It is not clear yet whether today's event
is analog to the Xian/Jew split or the Islam/(Xian-Jew) tear-off.
The operative prophet/saint/reincarnation has not yet materialized
in this here august cyber realm... But welcome to the choir, Howie.
Have a seat and "Let'em sing!... All of'em!... It's a beautiful choir!"
ahahaha... ahahanson

Howie thinks he's Jesus Christ walking into the temple and overturning
the
money-changers without getting 20 years to life.
He'll still be crucified, though, even if he turns methamphetamines
into
bread
and feeds 5,000 people with fish sandwiches from Long John Silvers
because
they were too stupid to bring their own lunch.

Androcles.

****************
Metaphuckwit.

Howard wrote:
"BEM" wrote in message
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Nay! The length of the Crocodile exceeds its Greenness...


Surely that depends upon the doppler effect, right? I mean, it could be
he's simply red-shifted from _our_ point of view...

-Howard

No,no, you are wrong.
"Because greenness causes the ruler to shrink, we therefore conclude
that the greener the crocodile, the larger number of rulers it will
take to lie along side it"

Jim G
c'=c+v