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The more we think we understand, the more we find out we do not
understand, and not only do we not understand, we do not even know how
much it is we don't understand.

Its not just physics either, just look at biochemistry and genetics.
They thought sequencing the genome would help solve all our questions,
but all it has done is not only not answer the questions we had, but
increased the number of questions for which we don't have answers and
do not look like having any answers to any time soon.

But, that is standard operatng procedure in science.
Since the only people who thought genome sequencing
would answer any questions, was The FBI,
not chemists. Since biocemistry is only a
science in the many blind minds of NASA.
And gentics doesn't even qualify as art anymore,
ever since The NAZIs and their Middle East
SARIN scientoons took it over.




Sure we can make high level inferences that enable us to cure some
diseases, build bridges, construct computer cpu of immense complexity,
and engineer aircraft that can carry hundreds of people thousand of
kilometres in a single journey, but when it all comes down to it, we
still cannot point to that one thing that says this is what makes it
all work.

It seems everything from physics, chemistry and biology, the whole
universe in fact, is like some giant Mandelbrot set, with no end.

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According to relativists, there is one question one is not
allowed
to
ask in physics: 'Why?'

Which relativists have you been talking too? Watch out for
relativists
that have straw sticking out of their clothing.

Most of them on the sci.physics groups claim that science (not just
physics) is about the how of things, not the why. This is common
knowledge.

What's the difference? In solving most questions, the real difficulty
is in actually identifying the exact question. Three letter words
like
'how' or 'why' don't really describe the question very well..

Anyway I like the why questions, especially in relativity. Ask away,
please!

Ok...

tau = t*sqrt(1-v ²/c²)
tau = t*sqrt(1-u²/c²)
tau = t*sqrt(1-w²/c²)
xi = (x-vt)/sqrt(1-v²/c²)
eta = (y-ut)/sqrt(1-u²/c²)
zeta= (z-wt)/sqrt(1-w²/c²)


Why did Einstein say
eta = y,
zeta = z?



Because he also said
u=w=0

Oh... I thought that the diagonal of my bedroom was sqrt(x²+y²+z²),
I didn't know I was not allow to shine light into the spider's lairs.

Shine away. Tell us when you have some luck shining the light on
spider's lairs with bedroom diagonals on the order of the Plank length,
or spider's lairs which move through your bedroom at near the speed of
light.

Dang, another cobweb in the corner... I'll give the foxy cleaning
lady a call, she'll fix it.
Actually Einstein said
V = (v+w)/(1+vw/c²),
which is kinda deliberately blowing smoke for his mirror trick.
He never said w = 0.

Another 'why' question...

Why did Einstein think he could make a moron and lying toad out of Bilge,
Roberts, Baez and shevek4, all of whom know everything, if he couldn't
make
an honest fool out of me, who only knows some things?

If you believe we know everything, you are indeed a fool


You have warts, shevek4, and your wooden nose has grown.

I expected the nose to grow when I decelerated but I wish Einstein had
warned me about thes ewarts. .

The princess will
not kiss you.

Thank god for pr0n.

Maybe you'll get one of Cinderella's ugly sisters for
Christmas, although I have heard from Sue that they are bull dykes a
little
Dutch boy put his finger in.

And merry Christmas to you too, enjoy Santa's lap - shevek4

http://www.dbeyr.com/images/coon_dog.jpg you too.
http://www.superlaugh.com/1/behappy.htm

*plonk*
Androcles.

Hi Shevek,
You imagined: We are all ignorant and have no real understanding.

If only _I_ were as ignorant as that. As I recently posted...

I posit that physical processes determine absolutely everything.
Randomness is naught but the byproduct of unknowns,
making things seem like a casino... where the house always wins in the end.

Everything, including the universe, is like a match burning out, dissipating.

Gravity is naught but left over density from the start of the big bang,
sometimes winning in the Short_Term... consuming... glomming on...
but always losing in the Long_Term... dissipating. Humans are like that too.

Meaning belongs to me only, it's what matters to me, here and now.
Yet it seems like Over_Glorified inanity to others.

God is relative. For example, I'm God to a rat in my maze,
and, likewise, I'm a rat in my God's maze... controlled by him/it.
Speaking of _Him_, it's hubris to assume sentience requires liquid water.

Despite many unknowns, rest assured that
entropy, dissipation, devolution, consumption, etc. is spatial,
....the fifth spatial dimension, Space_Time_Entropy... static and parochial.

Liquid water is just a density, a place in Space_Time_Entropy,
it's nothing special... the Anthropic_Principle is Human_Centric,
recycled hubris from the ancient days of Earth_Centric cosmology.