Sue... wrote:

snip

No wonder so many students of Einstein come down with the dt's.
A separate space:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_integral
A separate time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_Theorem

BB, intelligent design and creationism is entirely optional.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle1629.htm

:-)

Sue...


Gime another drink (:-) if you **** in a Back Hole were does it go ?


Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)

significant zero wrote:
Androcles wrote:
"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...
Without the frilly bits the only way that I can see that force can be
tansmited over a time/space distance is by modification of that very
same time/space distance either by field or foot, anybody with other
ideas ?

Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)


The first frill to strip out out that is the "time/space" bull****.
Don't start a thread with the very crap you want stripped.
Fields are, so start there.
Androcles.

Great, but then we have describe a field in terms that provide a
mechanism for force and as this works across time/space we have to
include them in any explanation. If you wish to rename, describe and
quantifiy time and space then be my guest but I have done my best by
using time/space instead of space/time etc as the ingredients and
transmiters of force.
How now brown cow (:-) ****
Experiment:
1 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
2 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
3 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
4 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
5 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
6 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
7 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.

Analyze the raw data paying particular attention to any correlation
between the times noted and how much your chair squashes your butt.

)

Sue...





sig zzzz

significant zero wrote:
Sue... wrote:

snip

No wonder so many students of Einstein come down with the dt's.
A separate space:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_integral
A separate time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_Theorem

BB, intelligent design and creationism is entirely optional.
http://www.informationclearinghouse....rticle1629.htm

:-)

Sue...


Gime another drink (:-) if you **** in a Back Hole were does it go ?
It goes to the Vatican. Isn't there where BB was blessed by the Pope?
)

Sue...



Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)

Sue... wrote:
significant zero wrote:
Androcles wrote:
"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...
Without the frilly bits the only way that I can see that force can be
tansmited over a time/space distance is by modification of that very
same time/space distance either by field or foot, anybody with other
ideas ?

Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)


The first frill to strip out out that is the "time/space" bull****.
Don't start a thread with the very crap you want stripped.
Fields are, so start there.
Androcles.

Great, but then we have describe a field in terms that provide a
mechanism for force and as this works across time/space we have to
include them in any explanation. If you wish to rename, describe and
quantifiy time and space then be my guest but I have done my best by
using time/space instead of space/time etc as the ingredients and
transmiters of force.
How now brown cow (:-) ****
Experiment:
1 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
2 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
3 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
4 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
5 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
6 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
7 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.

Analyze the raw data paying particular attention to any correlation
between the times noted and how much your chair squashes your butt.

)

Sue...

Yes, butt squashing (force) is a function of time/space and time/space
is a function of force. case proven (:-) more detail and come down of
your chair its only a mouse..






sig zzzz

significant zero wrote:
Sue... wrote:
significant zero wrote:
Androcles wrote:
"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...
Without the frilly bits the only way that I can see that force can be
tansmited over a time/space distance is by modification of that very
same time/space distance either by field or foot, anybody with other
ideas ?

Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)


The first frill to strip out out that is the "time/space" bull****.
Don't start a thread with the very crap you want stripped.
Fields are, so start there.
Androcles.

Great, but then we have describe a field in terms that provide a
mechanism for force and as this works across time/space we have to
include them in any explanation. If you wish to rename, describe and
quantifiy time and space then be my guest but I have done my best by
using time/space instead of space/time etc as the ingredients and
transmiters of force.
How now brown cow (:-) ****
Experiment:
1 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
2 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
3 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
4 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
5 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
6 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
7 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.

Analyze the raw data paying particular attention to any correlation
between the times noted and how much your chair squashes your butt.

)

Sue...

Yes, butt squashing (force) is a function of time/space and time/space
is a function of force. case proven (:-) more detail and come down of
your chair its only a mouse..

See... It is *you* complicating the issue by arbitrarily combining
space
and time. The data collected supports no such relationship...
unless you are a bouncing in your chair as the pendulum swings.
http://obdrop.blogspot.com/2005/05/e...ndulum-do.html

:-)

Sue...







sig zzzz

Sue... wrote:

snip

See... It is *you* complicating the issue by arbitrarily combining
space
and time. The data collected supports no such relationship...
unless you are a bouncing in your chair as the pendulum swings.
http://obdrop.blogspot.com/2005/05/e...ndulum-do.html

:-)

Sue...

All right then is force a product of changes in time or changes in
space or changes in ? (:-)

sig zzzz

significant zero wrote:
Sue... wrote:

snip

See... It is *you* complicating the issue by arbitrarily combining
space
and time. The data collected supports no such relationship...
unless you are a bouncing in your chair as the pendulum swings.
http://obdrop.blogspot.com/2005/05/e...ndulum-do.html

:-)

Sue...

All right then is force a product of changes in time or changes in
space or changes in ? (:-)

This piece:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrometer
....mentions nothing about any type of change
necessary to the force separating the leaves.

They *do* describe several changes which cause the
force to decay.

Sue...


sig zzzz

"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...

Androcles wrote:
"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...
Without the frilly bits the only way that I can see that force can be
tansmited over a time/space distance is by modification of that very
same time/space distance either by field or foot, anybody with other
ideas ?

Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)


The first frill to strip out out that is the "time/space" bull****.
Don't start a thread with the very crap you want stripped.
Fields are, so start there.
Androcles.

Great, but then we have describe a field in terms that provide a
mechanism for force and as this works across time/space we have to
include them in any explanation. If you wish to rename, describe and
quantifiy time and space then be my guest but I have done my best by
using time/space instead of space/time etc as the ingredients and
transmiters of force.
How now brown cow (:-) ****

sig zzzz


We don't need to describe observation. Everyday words do it adequately.
"Fall", "attract", "drawn" are but three. I don't need to prattle on about
spacetime curvature to say I'm sitting in a chair while typing at my desk,
watch a tube in which electrons falling toward the screen and being
deflected by magnets to create a raster.
There's three fields, all have similar properties, I'm not about to rename
time or space to quantify any of them. If you want to, don't be my guest,
go away instead.
Fields are. Start there.
Androcles.

"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...

Sue... wrote:
significant zero wrote:
Androcles wrote:
"significant zero" wrote in message
oups.com...
Without the frilly bits the only way that I can see that force can
be
tansmited over a time/space distance is by modification of that
very
same time/space distance either by field or foot, anybody with
other
ideas ?

Sig ZZzzzzz (:-)


The first frill to strip out out that is the "time/space" bull****.
Don't start a thread with the very crap you want stripped.
Fields are, so start there.
Androcles.

Great, but then we have describe a field in terms that provide a
mechanism for force and as this works across time/space we have to
include them in any explanation. If you wish to rename, describe and
quantifiy time and space then be my guest but I have done my best by
using time/space instead of space/time etc as the ingredients and
transmiters of force.
How now brown cow (:-) ****
Experiment:
1 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
2 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
3 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
4 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
5 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
6 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.
7 Note how much your chair squashes your butt. Write down the time.

Analyze the raw data paying particular attention to any correlation
between the times noted and how much your chair squashes your butt.

)

Sue...

Yes, butt squashing (force) is a function of time/space

What function?
If you don't know what a function is take a math course.
This thread is about stripping away the bull ****. Why are you crapping on
it?
Do the ****in' experiment Sue's given you and write down the function!
Androcles.

Sue... wrote:
significant zero wrote:
Sue... wrote:

snip

See... It is *you* complicating the issue by arbitrarily combining
space
and time. The data collected supports no such relationship...
unless you are a bouncing in your chair as the pendulum swings.
http://obdrop.blogspot.com/2005/05/e...ndulum-do.html

:-)

Sue...

All right then is force a product of changes in time or changes in
space or changes in ? (:-)

This piece:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrometer
...mentions nothing about any type of change
necessary to the force separating the leaves.

A change happens the leaves seperate so what is it that has happend to
the time, space or whatever between the leaves that makes them stand
appart ?

I think your avoiding the issue. What is it that makes the leaves
seperate ? and dont say charge say what charge is and how it *works* in
the space between the leaves.


They *do* describe several changes which cause the
force to decay.

Accountancy (:-) and what *exactly* are these changes and do they
involve time and/or space ? (:-)

sig zzzz