How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.
Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations theories
etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and you have the
best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find many of the so
called experts in science do not know this and even if so knowing of them,
still cannot define them correctly or hold to them. Thus they continually
contradict themselves going around in continuing circles They just cannot
hold to the true nature of these three basic absolutes. "Why" simple because
they cannot step back and see that some form or degree of illusion is
misleading them. It is only primary school stuff but once in university
their brains become addled and mislead by educated parrots or professors
reading for text books that have never been seriously challenged. The
universe in all it phenomena is absolute, like it or not, i.e. time space,
motion etc in their most basic nature, and relativity is based on an
illusion. or at best is a secondary concept. Yes we live in a world of
secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to accept them for convience
sake but that does not excuse us for saying they are basic or absolute,
because they are just not. Albert you were not the genius they made you out
to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good luck to you, you had your day
for the convience to the establishment. now it is someone else's turn, right
or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods and Noble prizes. Thank you
Albert for your relatively being right and wrong at the same time. It is
hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden child. You have given me
something laugh at every time it think of it. Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you
read this, please no more snip snip unless it is to your defective
reasoning. Grow up. Art

"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.

Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them. Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute, like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept. Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.
Indeed! And magic squares offer nearly conclusive evidence of that.

Sue...

Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them. Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute, like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept. Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art

Arthur Knight wrote:
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

This comes close:
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Images/alphaeq.gif from:
http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Constants/alpha.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu...es/string.html

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations theories
etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and you have the
best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find many of the so
called experts in science do not know this and even if so knowing of them,
still cannot define them correctly or hold to them. Thus they continually
contradict themselves going around in continuing circles They just cannot
hold to the true nature of these three basic absolutes. "Why" simple because
they cannot step back and see that some form or degree of illusion is
misleading them.

There is no illusion when one understands that taking a different PoV
isn't altering the subject. SR *is* confusing is this respect because
electromagnetic observers are not passive, but the theory never
explicitly states it. Some of its paradoxical nature stems from this
oversight.

It is only primary school stuff but once in university
their brains become addled and mislead by educated parrots or professors

Huh?
http://web.mit.edu/8.02t/www/802TEAL3D/teal_tour.htm
http://arxiv.org/find/physics/1/au:+.../0/1/0/all/0/1

Sue...


reading for text books that have never been seriously challenged. The
universe in all it phenomena is absolute, like it or not, i.e. time space,
motion etc in their most basic nature, and relativity is based on an
illusion. or at best is a secondary concept. Yes we live in a world of
secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to accept them for convience
sake but that does not excuse us for saying they are basic or absolute,
because they are just not. Albert you were not the genius they made you out
to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good luck to you, you had your day
for the convience to the establishment. now it is someone else's turn, right
or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods and Noble prizes. Thank you
Albert for your relatively being right and wrong at the same time. It is
hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden child. You have given me
something laugh at every time it think of it. Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you
read this, please no more snip snip unless it is to your defective
reasoning. Grow up. Art

"Sue..." wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no
relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.
Indeed! And magic squares offer nearly conclusive evidence of that.

Sue...

Learn the basics of science - QM has never been falsified.

Bill



Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and
you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find
many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them.
Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing
circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic
absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff
but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute,
like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept.
Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying
they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not
the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good
luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it
is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods
and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and
wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip
unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Sue..." wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no
relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.
Indeed! And magic squares offer nearly conclusive evidence of that.

Sue...

Learn the basics of science - QM has never been falsified.

Bill


Billy boy !!! when will you grow up son?



Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and
you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find
many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them.
Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing
circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic
absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff
but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute,
like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept.
Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying
they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not
the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good
luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it
is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods
and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and
wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip
unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art

Arthur Knight wrote:
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.
Nothing else what so ever.

That ontology of yours is a free choice and it's neither provable nor
disprovable.

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.

how is that, the motion in QM is not random?


Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them. Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute, like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept. Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Sue..." wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill Hobba wrote:
"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no
relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.
Indeed! And magic squares offer nearly conclusive evidence of that.

Sue...

Learn the basics of science - QM has never been falsified.

qm is based on plank constants

continum cant be measured with a discrete detector

you are a fool, thank you very much


Bill



Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and
you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find
many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them.
Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing
circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic
absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff
but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute,
like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept.
Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying
they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not
the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good
luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it
is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods
and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and
wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip
unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art

"Themistocles" wrote in message
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Bill Hobba wrote:
"Arthur Knight" wrote in message
news
How simple
The universe and every single or individual body and phenomena in it,
however large or small is made up of only Matter its Motion and space.

Since modern physics suggests otherwise this simplicity is of no
relevance.
For example QM has cast doubts on objects having an actual motion.

how is that, the motion in QM is not random?

Motion - meaning move - meaning having a velocity - is not an observable in
QM. And even if it was an observable the Kochen-Specker theorem says
observable can not be both value definite and non contextual. However I
have no doubt such is beyond you because you are simply a troll, possibly
another incarnation of the dyslexic troll returned to annoy us.

Bill



Bill

Nothing else what so ever. Forget all the fancy names postulations
theories etc. Just "define" these three basic absolutes correctly and
you
have the best chance of solving mysteries of what ever kind. I find
many
of the so called experts in science do not know this and even if so
knowing of them, still cannot define them correctly or hold to them.
Thus
they continually contradict themselves going around in continuing
circles
They just cannot hold to the true nature of these three basic
absolutes.
"Why" simple because they cannot step back and see that some form or
degree of illusion is misleading them. It is only primary school stuff
but
once in university their brains become addled and mislead by educated
parrots or professors reading for text books that have never been
seriously challenged. The universe in all it phenomena is absolute,
like
it or not, i.e. time space, motion etc in their most basic nature, and
relativity is based on an illusion. or at best is a secondary concept.
Yes
we live in a world of secondaries, relatives and illusions and need to
accept them for convience sake but that does not excuse us for saying
they
are basic or absolute, because they are just not. Albert you were not
the
genius they made you out to be anymore than the layperson I am. Good
luck
to you, you had your day for the convience to the establishment. now it
is
someone else's turn, right or wrong to be glorified with Knight hoods
and
Noble prizes. Thank you Albert for your relatively being right and
wrong
at the same time. It is hardly what I would expect of a kinder garden
child. You have given me something laugh at every time it think of it.
Arthur P.s. Bill Hobba if you read this, please no more snip snip
unless
it is to your defective reasoning. Grow up. Art