The physical motions of photons in free space
are absolutely equal!

Yes, let us take a fixed inertial line in free
space, and let points A and B be fixed points upon
this line. At point A, let there be two objects
moving upon this line at two different velocities,
positioned such that they will cross point A at the
same instant of time. At the instant they cross
point A, let them both send a photon towards point B.
Both photons will physically reach point B at the
same instant of time.
(Sub note: Each 'object' that simultaneously met at
point A can each actually represent a whole inertial
reference frame, in which they are each at rest. And
we will let each frame extend to both points A and B
and beyond. Thus, each photon emitted by each
object are each traveling in their own different inertial
reference frame at all times.)
Now please note, at any point on this original
line, as measured by any object on this line, no
matter what velocity any object might be moving on
this line, will show that at any meeting of any one
of these photons, will instantaneously include the
meeting of the other photon. Thus, step by step, at
every point, by all observers (by all inertial
frames), moving or not moving one way or the other,
they will all confirm that these two photons, sent by
two differently moving objects, moving in different
reference frames, will be physically moving together
in an absolute way across the space they are using.

Thus, something exists in this space, that
controls the rate at which all photons physically
move, no matter what their original source might have
been, and no matter what reference frame they are in.
This concept is absolute, and it absolutely
tells us that there is an absolute reference that
controls these physical acts. There is no logic that
exists that can defeat this concept. LET satisfies
this logic, and it is the only presently existing
science that accomplishes or satisfies this logic.
QED!

Now I do not wish to argue this point with one
single soul! There is nothing at all to argue. All
photons do physically move together, no matter what
velocity existed in their original frame of origin,
and they cannot do this unless they each are being
affected by something common.
It is my opinion that all SR experts are insane,
because they refuse to consider physical facts. To
assume that only math facts are important is insane,
and I no longer care to talk to SR experts. There is
no reason to ever talk to people who are insane, and
refuse to consider that a physical reality, and the
physical facts of that reality, must be known and
understood before any math fact can be considered or
used or understood.
You SR experts seem to enjoy your stupidity. So
be it! But you have all died. You have all died as
to things that have intellectual importance! And I
no longer care! Not one of you will dare consider
any of these things, and for this, you are more than
stupid! You are insane.

Thanks for reading.
Gerald L. O'Barr

"Gerald L. O'Barr" wrote in message
ups.com...
The physical motions of photons in free space
are absolutely equal!

Yes, let us take a fixed inertial line in free
space, and let points A and B be fixed points upon
this line. At point A, let there be two objects
moving upon this line at two different velocities,
positioned such that they will cross point A at the
same instant of time. At the instant they cross
point A, let them both send a photon towards point B.
Both photons will physically reach point B at the
same instant of time.
(Sub note: Each 'object' that simultaneously met at
point A can each actually represent a whole inertial
reference frame, in which they are each at rest. And
we will let each frame extend to both points A and B
and beyond. Thus, each photon emitted by each
object are each traveling in their own different inertial
reference frame at all times.)
Now please note, at any point on this original
line, as measured by any object on this line, no
matter what velocity any object might be moving on
this line, will show that at any meeting of any one
of these photons, will instantaneously include the
meeting of the other photon. Thus, step by step, at
every point, by all observers (by all inertial
frames), moving or not moving one way or the other,
they will all confirm that these two photons, sent by
two differently moving objects, moving in different
reference frames, will be physically moving together
in an absolute way across the space they are using.

Thus, something exists in this space, that
controls the rate at which all photons physically
move, no matter what their original source might have
been, and no matter what reference frame they are in.

Your logic is erroneous. It no more points to something controlling it than
Newtons first law points to something that exists controlling it. It is
simply another example of the convoluted semantic gibberish you have been
posting for years.

Bill

This concept is absolute, and it absolutely
tells us that there is an absolute reference that
controls these physical acts. There is no logic that
exists that can defeat this concept. LET satisfies
this logic, and it is the only presently existing
science that accomplishes or satisfies this logic.
QED!

Now I do not wish to argue this point with one
single soul! There is nothing at all to argue. All
photons do physically move together, no matter what
velocity existed in their original frame of origin,
and they cannot do this unless they each are being
affected by something common.
It is my opinion that all SR experts are insane,
because they refuse to consider physical facts. To
assume that only math facts are important is insane,
and I no longer care to talk to SR experts. There is
no reason to ever talk to people who are insane, and
refuse to consider that a physical reality, and the
physical facts of that reality, must be known and
understood before any math fact can be considered or
used or understood.
You SR experts seem to enjoy your stupidity. So
be it! But you have all died. You have all died as
to things that have intellectual importance! And I
no longer care! Not one of you will dare consider
any of these things, and for this, you are more than
stupid! You are insane.

Thanks for reading.
Gerald L. O'Barr

Gerald L. O'Barr uses strong words, but I agree with this: physics must make
sense. Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Henry Haapalainen


"Bill Hobba" kirjoitti viestissä
...

"Gerald L. O'Barr" wrote in message
ups.com...
The physical motions of photons in free space
are absolutely equal!

Yes, let us take a fixed inertial line in free
space, and let points A and B be fixed points upon
this line. At point A, let there be two objects
moving upon this line at two different velocities,
positioned such that they will cross point A at the
same instant of time. At the instant they cross
point A, let them both send a photon towards point B.
Both photons will physically reach point B at the
same instant of time.
(Sub note: Each 'object' that simultaneously met at
point A can each actually represent a whole inertial
reference frame, in which they are each at rest. And
we will let each frame extend to both points A and B
and beyond. Thus, each photon emitted by each
object are each traveling in their own different inertial
reference frame at all times.)
Now please note, at any point on this original
line, as measured by any object on this line, no
matter what velocity any object might be moving on
this line, will show that at any meeting of any one
of these photons, will instantaneously include the
meeting of the other photon. Thus, step by step, at
every point, by all observers (by all inertial
frames), moving or not moving one way or the other,
they will all confirm that these two photons, sent by
two differently moving objects, moving in different
reference frames, will be physically moving together
in an absolute way across the space they are using.

Thus, something exists in this space, that
controls the rate at which all photons physically
move, no matter what their original source might have
been, and no matter what reference frame they are in.

Your logic is erroneous. It no more points to something controlling it
than
Newtons first law points to something that exists controlling it. It is
simply another example of the convoluted semantic gibberish you have been
posting for years.

Bill

This concept is absolute, and it absolutely
tells us that there is an absolute reference that
controls these physical acts. There is no logic that
exists that can defeat this concept. LET satisfies
this logic, and it is the only presently existing
science that accomplishes or satisfies this logic.
QED!

Now I do not wish to argue this point with one
single soul! There is nothing at all to argue. All
photons do physically move together, no matter what
velocity existed in their original frame of origin,
and they cannot do this unless they each are being
affected by something common.
It is my opinion that all SR experts are insane,
because they refuse to consider physical facts. To
assume that only math facts are important is insane,
and I no longer care to talk to SR experts. There is
no reason to ever talk to people who are insane, and
refuse to consider that a physical reality, and the
physical facts of that reality, must be known and
understood before any math fact can be considered or
used or understood.
You SR experts seem to enjoy your stupidity. So
be it! But you have all died. You have all died as
to things that have intellectual importance! And I
no longer care! Not one of you will dare consider
any of these things, and for this, you are more than
stupid! You are insane.

Thanks for reading.
Gerald L. O'Barr

[snip]

Fix your ****ty newsreader, it top-posts.

Henry Haapalainen wrote:
Gerald L. O'Barr uses strong words, but I agree with this: physics must make
sense. Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Such as?


Henry Haapalainen

"Eric Gisse" kirjoitti viestissä
oups.com...
[snip]

Fix your ****ty newsreader, it top-posts.

Henry Haapalainen wrote:
Gerald L. O'Barr uses strong words, but I agree with this: physics must
make
sense. Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Henry Haapalainen

Such as? (EG)

http://www.wakkanet.fi/~fields/

Henry Haapalainen

Gerald L. O'Barr wrote:
The physical motions of photons in free space
are absolutely equal!
....
It is my opinion that all SR experts are insane,
because they refuse to consider physical facts.

It isn't SR experts who are insane. It's reality that's insane.

Henry Haapalainen wrote:
"Eric Gisse" kirjoitti viestissä
oups.com...
[snip]

Fix your ****ty newsreader, it top-posts.

Henry Haapalainen wrote:
Gerald L. O'Barr uses strong words, but I agree with this: physics must
make
sense. Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Henry Haapalainen

Such as? (EG)

http://www.wakkanet.fi/~fields/

I asked for the "mistakes" of relativity, not the personal pet theory
of some crank.


Henry Haapalainen

Henry Haapalainen wrote:
Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Before that is possible, these mistakes must be identified. So far,
nobody has been able to do that. Yourself and O'Barr included. And
others around here too numerous to mention.


Tom Roberts

"Henry Haapalainen" wrote in message
...
Gerald L. O'Barr uses strong words, but I agree with this: physics must
make
sense. Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Henry Haapalainen

Easily done. Throw it in the garbage. Throw O'Barr in with it, his aether
makes no sense either.
Observation:
http://www.britastro.org/vss/gifc/00918-ck.gif
Explanation:
http://www.ebicom.net/~rsf1/sekerin.htm (fig 3)

(Or stars explode twice in three months, which makes no sense).

"Tom Roberts" wrote in message
m...
Henry Haapalainen wrote:
Mistakes of relativity need to be corrected.

Before that is possible, these mistakes must be identified. So far, nobody
has been able to do that. Yourself and O'Barr included. And others around
here too numerous to mention.


Tom Roberts

"In agreement with experience we further assume the quantity
2AB/(t'A-tA) = c" = 0, AB +BA 2AB.
Androcles identified it and posted it in 1999.
Possibly you've been seeing too many accretion disks near black holes,
Roberts.