"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:59:39 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:36:31 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If you change your mind (highly hypothetical!), I'll check
your work.

Idiot, the 'approaching speed' IS the 'closing speed'.

Now, answer the question instead of trying to destroy any chance of intelligent
discussion.

I said "Don't skip any of these exercises"
You have not even started yet.
Try harder.

Your 'exercises' reveal no more thhan the fact that you cannot even grasp the
question.

Exercises don't reveal, Wilson.
Refusing to even try to make them, *that* reveals something.
Now, try harder. You can do them.

Dirk Vdm

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:58:21 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:59:39 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:36:31 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If you change your mind (highly hypothetical!), I'll check
your work.

Idiot, the 'approaching speed' IS the 'closing speed'.

Now, answer the question instead of trying to destroy any chance of intelligent
discussion.

I said "Don't skip any of these exercises"
You have not even started yet.
Try harder.

Your 'exercises' reveal no more thhan the fact that you cannot even grasp the
question.

Exercises don't reveal, Wilson.
Refusing to even try to make them, *that* reveals something.
Now, try harder. You can do them.

If a light beam strikes two differently moving observers, why should they both
get the same value of c from Maxwell's equation?

Simple question, either provide a simple answer or admit you haven't a clue.


Dirk Vdm



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"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:58:21 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:59:39 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:36:31 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If you change your mind (highly hypothetical!), I'll check
your work.

Idiot, the 'approaching speed' IS the 'closing speed'.

Now, answer the question instead of trying to destroy any chance of intelligent
discussion.

I said "Don't skip any of these exercises"
You have not even started yet.
Try harder.

Your 'exercises' reveal no more thhan the fact that you cannot even grasp the
question.

Exercises don't reveal, Wilson.
Refusing to even try to make them, *that* reveals something.
Now, try harder. You can do them.

If a light beam strikes two differently moving observers, why should they both
get the same value of c from Maxwell's equation?

Simple question, either provide a simple answer or admit you haven't a clue.

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question
when you first make make these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

E2) Give two other short descriptions for "closing speed"

E3) Explain the difference between speed and closing speed in
a way that a 15 years old kid can understand it and then in turn
can explain it to his 13 years old sister.

E4) Rewrite your *entire* text, but replacing *every* occurrence
of "speed", with either
"speed of X as measured or calculated by Y", or
"closing speed between X and Y according to Z".

Don't skip any of these exercises.

Dirk Vdm

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:49:49 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:58:21 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If a light beam strikes two differently moving observers, why should they both
get the same value of c from Maxwell's equation?

Simple question, either provide a simple answer or admit you haven't a clue.

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question
when you first make make these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

It is closing speed that is relevant in my experiment.
The question is, "why does Maxwell's 'c' not apply to closing speed?"


E2) Give two other short descriptions for "closing speed"

E3) Explain the difference between speed and closing speed in
a way that a 15 years old kid can understand it and then in turn
can explain it to his 13 years old sister.

E4) Rewrite your *entire* text, but replacing *every* occurrence
of "speed", with either
"speed of X as measured or calculated by Y", or
"closing speed between X and Y according to Z".

Don't skip any of these exercises.

Dirk Vdm



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe

"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:49:49 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:58:21 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If a light beam strikes two differently moving observers, why should they both
get the same value of c from Maxwell's equation?

Simple question, either provide a simple answer or admit you haven't a clue.

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question
when you first make make these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

It is closing speed that is relevant in my experiment.
The question is, "why does Maxwell's 'c' not apply to closing speed?"

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question as well,
provided you prove that you understand the concept by sucessfully
completing these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

E2) Give two other short descriptions for "closing speed"

E3) Explain the difference between speed and closing speed in
a way that a 15 years old kid can understand it and then in turn
can explain it to his 13 years old sister.

E4) Rewrite your *entire* text, but replacing *every* occurrence
of "speed", with either
"speed of X as measured or calculated by Y", or
"closing speed between X and Y according to Z".

Don't skip any of these exercises.
Work for it.

Dirk Vdm

On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:38:16 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:49:49 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:58:21 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If a light beam strikes two differently moving observers, why should they both
get the same value of c from Maxwell's equation?

Simple question, either provide a simple answer or admit you haven't a clue.

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question
when you first make make these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

It is closing speed that is relevant in my experiment.
The question is, "why does Maxwell's 'c' not apply to closing speed?"

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question as well,
provided you prove that you understand the concept by sucessfully
completing these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

E2) Give two other short descriptions for "closing speed"

E3) Explain the difference between speed and closing speed in
a way that a 15 years old kid can understand it and then in turn
can explain it to his 13 years old sister.

E4) Rewrite your *entire* text, but replacing *every* occurrence
of "speed", with either
"speed of X as measured or calculated by Y", or
"closing speed between X and Y according to Z".

Don't skip any of these exercises.
Work for it.

answer my question or go away.


Dirk Vdm



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe

"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".

Henri Wilson wrote:

[snip]


answer my question or go away.

He asked the questions before you did, ****wit.

I'll give you a hint: Think about the nature of the solution to the
linear wave equation. Does the speed of the wave depend on anything or
is it, in fact, constant?



Dirk Vdm



HW.
www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
see: www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/variablestars.exe

"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".

"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:38:16 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:49:49 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:58:21 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:

If a light beam strikes two differently moving observers, why should they both
get the same value of c from Maxwell's equation?

Simple question, either provide a simple answer or admit you haven't a clue.

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question
when you first make make these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

It is closing speed that is relevant in my experiment.
The question is, "why does Maxwell's 'c' not apply to closing speed?"

I promise I will give you a precise answer to that question as well,
provided you prove that you understand the concept by sucessfully
completing these exercises:

E1) Estimate the number of times that people have.explained the
difference between speed and closing speed to you.

E2) Give two other short descriptions for "closing speed"

E3) Explain the difference between speed and closing speed in
a way that a 15 years old kid can understand it and then in turn
can explain it to his 13 years old sister.

E4) Rewrite your *entire* text, but replacing *every* occurrence
of "speed", with either
"speed of X as measured or calculated by Y", or
"closing speed between X and Y according to Z".

Don't skip any of these exercises.
Work for it.

answer my question or go away.

Answering your question requires knowing that you understand
the concept of closing speed. It is crystal clear that you don't
understand it. That is why I gave you these exercises. When you
make them, you will understand and then you can move on. If
you refuse to make them, that means that you enjoy your state
of not-understanding and that you don't want to move on.
Meanwhile anyone who tries to answer your question, is
wasting his and your time.

The exercises are on my first reply in this thread.
You know where to find them.

Dirk Vdm

On 10 Nov 2005 01:27:21 -0800, "Eric Gisse" wrote:


Henri Wilson wrote:

[snip]


answer my question or go away.

He asked the questions before you did, ****wit.

I'll give you a hint: Think about the nature of the solution to the
linear wave equation. Does the speed of the wave depend on anything or
is it, in fact, constant?

speed wrt what, idiot?



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"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".

On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:26:24 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:


"Henri Wilson" HW@.. wrote in message ...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:38:16 GMT, "Dirk Van de moortel"
wrote:



Don't skip any of these exercises.
Work for it.

answer my question or go away.

Answering your question requires knowing that you understand
the concept of closing speed. It is crystal clear that you don't
understand it. That is why I gave you these exercises. When you
make them, you will understand and then you can move on. If
you refuse to make them, that means that you enjoy your state
of not-understanding and that you don't want to move on.
Meanwhile anyone who tries to answer your question, is
wasting his and your time.

The exercises are on my first reply in this thread.
You know where to find them.

You are a pathetic waste of time and space.

It should be obvious to any normal person that my question relates to the
different closing speeds of the pulses and the two observers.

The question asks why they should both calculate the same value for c, using
Maxwell, when the closing speeds are clearly not the same.


Dirk Vdm



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"Sometimes I feel like a complete failure.
The most useful thing I have ever done is prove Einstein wrong".