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Hi, folks! A while ago (circa 2002) while I was trying to understand
the difference(s) between covariant and contravariant tensors, I made myself a little table concerning the tensor's components; I recently came across it, and now I don't understand one of my own notations! ![]() So I'm hoping one of you might be able to tell me what I was probably thinking; here's the table: Metric "I" not "I" Basis Orthogonal co = contra possible? co = contra? Non-orthogonal possible: yes co ~= contra co = contra? The notation I don't remember is the capital "I" (the ?'s refer to questions I had about the tensors and their components, not the notation I don't understand). Given the context, what did "I" represent? Isometric? Thanks for your help. DG PS: While you're at it, I never did resolve the ?'s, so if you can provide those answers as well, that'd be nice. Thanks again! |
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You were considering the metric and whether it took the form of the
Identity operator. If you choose an ortho-normal basis then the metric components a 1 0 0 ... I = 0 1 0 ... = diag(1,1,1,...) 0 0 1 .... ... In said basis, then the covariant and contravariant components of a vector will be the same. However you've indicated "I" vs "not I" as independent of orthogonal vs non-orthogonal bases. They are related. An orthogonal basis gives diagionalized metric, and if you can normalize all vectors to square magnitude of +1 (in a definite metric space) then you have the I case. In short you can't have a "non-orthogonal case with metric I". You can have an othogonal (non-ortho-normal) basis and thus have a non-identity form. In that case with contravariant metric: g = diag(g1,g2,g3,...) then co != contra, but rather contra-variant components are related to covariant components by: vectors covariant components X = (x1,x2,....) vectors contra-variant components X = (g1 x1,g2 x2, ...) Regards, James Regards, James |
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Are you sure? It fits awfully well.
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No, I'm not sure, that may have been it, I just _think_ I was thinking
of something a little more general and/or geometrical than that. (Yes, I know, whether or not the metric "takes the form of the identity operator" has geometric implications - pretty much anything you can say about a metric tensor is going to have some sort of geometric implication(s). ). More to the point, I _think_ those columnheadings, like the row headings, were meant to describe something about the basis in which the tensor's components were calculated, not something about the tensor itself (the latter was the content of the table itself). In other words, I was trying to get a handle on, given certain properties of a basis and an arbitrary tensor, what was the resulting difference between the components of the tensor in the co- v. contra- representation. Thanks for your patience; if you don't respond again, I'll understand (I'm a little surprised anyone responded at all - thanks!) DG |
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