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Old November 4th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
Pentcho Valev
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http://www.detnews.com/2005/business...D04-256983.htm
http://einsteinplag.tripod.com/intro.html
http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm

Pentcho Valev

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Old November 4th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
Juan R.
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The corruption of history of science.

http://canonicalscience.blogspot.com...ty-theory.html.

Juan R.

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Old November 4th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
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Pentcho Valev wrote:

http://www.detnews.com/2005/business...D04-256983.htm
http://einsteinplag.tripod.com/intro.html
http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm

Pentcho Valev


The http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm link is interesting, even
though it's rather out-of-date.

The author says that he maintained a long thread "The Future of
Physics" in sci.skeptic in 1996 when, judging from the deleted
messages, 'nuking' messages appears to have been more of a feature of
usenet archive activities than it is these days. I'm not sure that
Google's current policies allow an individual to 'maintain' their own
threads in the way that Wallace seems to have been doing, as though he
were the moderator of a small newsgroup consisting of the 100 or so
contributors to his thread.

Google bought the archives from Deja a few years ago. Does anyone know
exactly what the difference is between Deja's and Google's handling of
their archives? How does Google cope with the vast increase in usenet
since 1996? To what extent can any individual (other than Google's
employees) know that the version of sci.physics (for example) that they
see on their own computer, is the same as anyone else's version of
sci.physics?

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Old November 4th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
donstockbauer@hotmail.com
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Google bought the archives from Deja a few years ago. Does anyone know
exactly what the difference is between Deja's and Google's handling of
their archives? How does Google cope with the vast increase in usenet
since 1996? To what extent can any individual (other than Google's
employees) know that the version of sci.physics (for example) that they
see on their own computer, is the same as anyone else's version of
sci.physics?

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Old November 5th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
shuba
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**Followup-To field set**

StpNrrs ironically crossposted:

The http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm link is interesting, even
though it's rather out-of-date.


The late Bryan G. Wallace was a crackpot. His writings are
complete garbage from a physics point of view. What is
perhaps interesting is that he may have been the first person
to lose an account for crossposting to sci* groups. In an
email he posted, he was told by the sysadmin:

"Bryan,

Due to repeated incidents where you have continued to post
articles to a wide number of newsgroups and the complaints we
are receiving not only from wide-spread Internet users but also
from local Eckerd College employees, your privilege of access
is being revoked. I will be removing your accounts on all
Eckerd College systems on Tuesday, April 18, 1995. If you need
any assistance in removing your files, please contact me.

On November 16th, you were warned of the possibility of your
account being removed due to your posting to 212 newsgroups on
the net. Since that time, you cross-posted your article "The
Farce of Physics" on at least two occasions, February 10th to
25 newsgroups and around April 2 to 14 newsgroups. I have
received complaints for both incidents.

If you have any questions or comments, you may contact Sharon
or me."

http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...1?dmode=source


---Tim Shuba---
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Old November 5th 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
StpNrrs@aol.com
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shuba wrote:

StpNrrs ironically crossposted:


The http://www.ekkehard-friebe.de/wallace.htm link is interesting, even
though it's rather out-of-date.


No, I was being serious! His opinions about science are well worth
reading.

The late Bryan G. Wallace was a crackpot. His writings are
complete garbage from a physics point of view. What is
perhaps interesting is that he may have been the first person
to lose an account for crossposting to sci* groups. In an
email he posted, he was told by the sysadmin:


"Bryan,

Due to repeated incidents where you have continued to post
articles to a wide number of newsgroups and the complaints we
are receiving not only from wide-spread Internet users but also
from local Eckerd College employees, your privilege of access
is being revoked. I will be removing your accounts on all
Eckerd College systems on Tuesday, April 18, 1995. If you need
any assistance in removing your files, please contact me.


http://groups.google.com/group/sci.p...1?dmode=source

Isn't it interesting reading other people's letters! A woman called
"Marisa H. Pfalzgraf" removed his account from his local computer at
Eckerd College, where he worked, she seems to have taken a dislike to
his opinions, and tried to silence him! He was trying to advertise his
book on the internet and she had received some complaints - over 200
newsgroups had received his advert!

You called Bryan G. Wallace a crackpot - why exactly? Here are his
comments after receiving the letter from Marisa that you posted:


**************


After I received Marisa's letter I received a free 3.5" HD
Windows software disk and opened a 10 hour free trial
subscription to America Online and was impressed by the fancy
graphics and sounds on my PC home computer. Then I found that
the many hours I had spent for free connected to the Eckerd
Computer would now cost $2.95 per hour which could add up to a
large monthly bill for a retired person without much income!


In the past 2 years I had used the Eckerd Internet connection
to send out over 6000 free email copies of the ASCII 311KB
version of my book "The Farce of Physics" to people all over the
world. Now I find there seems to be no way to send the copies of
the book from my new account, and if I can, it probable will cost
a fair amount per book sent. Next I found that there seems to be
no way to properly crosspost to more than one newgroup on the
Usenet so there is no more than one file per post on any Internet
computer system. I don't want to have people flame me again for
spamming like they did last November, so I'll only post to
sci.physics and put a short pointer message in the 13 other
newsgroups I've been crossposting the "The Farce of Physics"
thread on. I started this thread last November and since then
there has been 305 posts by 131 people.


My book is now archived in many Internet libraries and can be
found by using Gopher and World Wide Web and will be available
from Project Gutenberg archives and on their CDROM's. The free
standard 311KB ASCII version can be obtained by anonymous ftp
from ftp.germany.eu.net in the directory /pub/books/wallace by
using "get farce.txt". The file in the directory is in a
compressed form and called farce.txt.gz but if you leave off the
..gz the system will send you the uncompressed text. Unix
computer systems have a command called "gunzip" that will
uncompress the .gz format. The stats from EU Net show a peek of
2013 copies sent by ftp last November. There are no restrictions
on anyone making electronic or paper copies of my book, and there
are thousands of people who have copies, so the fact that I can
no longer send copies by email should not be much of a problem
for those who can't get them by ftp. A paperback version of the
book for about $5.95 should soon be available and I will post
information on it on this thread. The HTML/World-Wide Web
Hypertext version of the book is available via:


URL:http://www.Germany.EU.net/books/farce/farce.html


With regard to Derick's request for my educational background, I
made up the following bio facts for the publisher of my book:


Name: Bryan G. Wallace
Marital Status: Married 1953, 4 children
Education: High School G.E.D., Technical Degree in
Electronics, U.S. Army 1950
Military Service: U.S. Army, 1948-1952
Work Experience:


1952-1957 - Minor jobs in auto mechanics, electrical
work, and T.V. and radio repair
1957-1965 - Technical Assistant PR-25, General Electric
Pinellas Peninsula Plant
1965-Present - Retired and living on investment income;
research and study in physics


Self educated in physics, retired in 1965 to live on
investment income and devote full time to physics research,
elected each year from 1974 to 1982 to an unpaid official
position of Physics Research Associate at Eckerd College, have
unofficial position of Associate from 1982 to the present time,
was nominated and elected to membership in the American Physical
Society in 1976, in 1992 I was elected to be a member of the
organizing and editorial committee of the March 1994 III
International Conference on Space and Time Problems in Natural
Sciences to be held in St. Petersburg (Leningrad) Russia, in 1982
I won Forth prize in Arthur Schawlow's "Instant fame and small
fortune" contest (Physics Today April 1982 page 72), I've
published about 14 papers, 7 letters, and been a participant in
around 18 conferences and meetings, many with published
abstracts, and written 1 book titled "The Farce of Physics".


Bryan


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Old November 6th 05 posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.skeptic,sci.philosophy.tech
maestro@ultrapiano.com
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shuba wrote:

StpNrrs wrote:

No, I was being serious!


Not my problem.


If you're not being serious you might at least try to be witty.

As far as Bryan Wallace being a crackpot, one
quick check is to just take a look at the posts in this thread.
By my count, there are now three obvious usenet kooks and one
crossposting buffoon who have indicated support for Wallace on
some level.


So you think that if three kooks and a buffoon indicated support for
George Bush, that would make it obvious that the US president was
crackpot?

If you want to see what knowledgeable people think
of Wallace's nonsense, just check the archives. Or maybe better,
bring a copy of his "book" down to your friendly neighborhood
physics department, and ask away.


Wallace may well have written some nonsense in his book "The Farce of
Phyics", but I'm not intereted in that. His website makes some serious
points about physics, as do the other links in Pentcho Valev's original
posting to this thread. The knowledgable people that can discuss those
ideas are are not buried in the archives as you seem to think! They
are the contributors to sci.physics etc in the here and now, who can
think and form their own opinions about science.

 




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