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Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!!



 
 
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Old October 31st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,sci.chem,sci.physics.particle,sci.math
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Default Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!!

$ Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!!
AMBiENT MEDiA does NOT require "virtual particle" *NEGATiVE-COUNTs*.!!
A *Zero-AVERAGE* of particle-COUNTs requires *some-NEGATiVE COUNTs*.!!
brian a m stuckless

Steehs wrote: "Do Virtual Photons Exist?"
The Aether was original conceived as a means of explaining
"forces acting at a distance" (i.e.- electric, magnetic,
gravitation, et al). When the idea of the classical Aether was
abandoned early in the century, there was a need to find another
means of explaining these forces because, if it were not possible
to explain them by some other means then it would be necessary to
retain the Aether and the absolute reference frame it represented.
The elimination of that reference frame was an absolute imperative
of the political agenda of the academic community.
Fortunately, the advent of quantum theory allowed Dr. Feynmann to
generate the idea that these forces were produced by the exchange
of "virtual particles". These particles were so named because they
popped into and out of existence for periods of time that were so
short that the rules of quantum physics insured that their temporary
existence did not violate the Law of Conservation of Energy.

It is easy to understand how these particles could provide a
force over a distance. A "virtual particle" emitted from one point
would absorb momentum and travel ballistically to another where it
would release that momentum. The net result would be force acting
between the points.

The situation is analogous to the effect observed when two athletes
throw a medicine ball back and forth to each other. Difficulty with
the analogy is that the throwing of the medicine ball can only
produce a repulsive force; it cannot produce an attractive force!
The mathematics associated with the force production by "virtual
particles" particles, however, does allow for the production of
attractive forces, but, since no explanation as to how this is
possible is provided, one is left with the suspicion that this is
another example of a solution where an effect that is allowed by
the mathematics involved is being used outside of the constraints
imposed by the physical realities of the problem. These realities
require a rather unusual exchange of momentum to be involved. In
order to produce the attractive force, the "virtual photon" would
have to be launched with a momentum represented by a propagation
direction away from its target, reverse its momentum (direction of
travel), go past its target and repeat the process so as to acquire
a momentum in the required direction as it struck the target from
behind. (If anyone can provide a different explanation I would like
to hear it.)
Of course, if the "virtual photon" were propagating through a
medium, such as the Aether, there would be no conceptual problem,
the "virtual particle could make the necessary exchange of momentum
with the medium. (A boomerang returns to the thrower because it
changes momentum with a medium, air. But then, if the Aether were
present we would have no need to consider the existence of "virtual
photons".

There is no need to resort to theoretical arguments, however.
If virtual photons produce electric and magnetic forces, they
should be observable. Consider a large electromagnet, such as is
used in an MIR machine. A recent news report described an
unfortunate incident where a steel oxygen bottle was not properly
mounted to its wall bracket. The magnetic field of the MIR pulled
the bottle to the machine and killed a boy who was being scanned.
It is obvious that the room was filled with a large and extremely
powerful magnetic field. If "virtual photons" were present in that
room, they would have produced a level of electromagnetic
interference that would scream their presence. If electric and
magnetic forces were produced by "virtual photons", they would
have to also effect any electromagnetic detectors in their
vicinity and one would expect that both natural and man-made
electric and magnetic fields would render electromagnetic
communication impossible.

An experiment is described in Chapter 4 of "The Einstein Hoax"
in which a strong electric field is produced inside of an
evacuated chamber and an antenna is located between the electrodes.
Using a radiation detector that covers the entire spectrum would
allow the detection of any spurious photons that acted to produce
the attractive force. Its a simple experiment and is one which
should be performed it science is to accept "virtual photons" as
meaningful.

The source material for this posting may be found in
http://einsteinhoax/hoax.htm ("The Einstein Hoax" {1997});
http://einsteinhoax/gravity.htm; ("Gravity" {1987}); and
http://einsteinhoax/relcor.htm ("Corrections to Special
Relativity" {1997}).
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"Do Virtual Photons Exist?"
Feynmann's *virtual particle* NEGATiVE-COUNTs, duh.!!
[A *Zero-AVERAGE* of particle-COUNTs requires *some-NEGATiVE COUNTs*].


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