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Old October 31st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket
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Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket wrote:
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.


Joao Magueijo said the Plack Length must be absolute, not subject to
Lorentz contraction.


He also said it about the Planck Length, BTW.

Hell, I already spelt "Joao Magueijo" right!

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Old October 31st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
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Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket wrote:
Mahmoud In My Dinner Jacket wrote:
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.


Joao Magueijo said the Plack Length must be absolute, not subject to
Lorentz contraction.


He also said it about the Planck Length, BTW.

Hell, I already spelt "Joao Magueijo" right!


It's bad having your spells go wrong on Halloween.

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Old October 31st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
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Juan R.:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.

Anybody know the theory?
Probably just amateurs.


http://store.yahoo.com/doverpublicat...486442284.html


Eric you have pointed to a book on relativistic quantum FIELD theory
which is *different* from relativistic quantum MECHANICS.


Bjorken & Drell, Volume I.


Eugene, for instance, is working an example of relativistic quantum
mechanics, where one studies the full dynamics of *particles* not only
scattering processes in the infinite past and infinite future for
supposed fundamental fields -that nobody has measured-.


No, eugene only thinks that's what he's doing. In reality, he trying
trying to use quantum theory to evade quantum theory.


Our own formulation of the topic is called quantum relativistic
dynamics.

http://www.canonicalscience.com/en/others/research.xml

A technical explanation of this approach will appear in the research
zone in brief.


It makes little difference, since the url above is unreadable.


Our theory has been already generalized to gravitation -showing why
Einstein General Relativity is not a correct approach to gravity- and I


Since you weren't able to grasp the idea of a non-relativistic
limit, I don't see how you could really claim to be doing anything
more subtle.


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Old October 31st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Gregory L. Hansen
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In article .com,
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.


Yes.


Anybody know the theory?
Probably just amateurs.


It's been written about extensively. Greiner's book "Relativistic Quantum
Mechanics: Wave Equations" may be the most comprehensive treatment that
doesn't involve field theories.


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Old November 1st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Eric Gisse
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Juan R. wrote:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.

Anybody know the theory?
Probably just amateurs.


http://store.yahoo.com/doverpublicat...486442284.html


Eric you have pointed to a book on relativistic quantum FIELD theory
which is *different* from relativistic quantum MECHANICS.


If I knew the difference I wouldn't need the book.

I have made enough assumptions about both and been told "no you mean
QM" and/or "no you mean QFT" for me to not know the difference. So, I
am just gonna buy a book and see what I can get out of it. If I can't,
it will simply sit on the shelf until I have the education to grok it.

[snip]

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Old November 1st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Eric Gisse
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Default Relativistic Quantum Mechanics?


Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
In article .com,
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.


Yes.


Anybody know the theory?
Probably just amateurs.


It's been written about extensively. Greiner's book "Relativistic Quantum
Mechanics: Wave Equations" may be the most comprehensive treatment that
doesn't involve field theories.


I know little about either, so I ordered a book on relativistic quantum
field theory.

Bad choice?



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difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of
mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it. "
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Old November 1st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Nick
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I can tell you where its wrong.

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Old November 1st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Eric Gisse
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Nick wrote:
I can tell you where its wrong.


DIE.

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Old November 1st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Juan R.
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Bilge wrote:
Juan R.:
Eric Gisse wrote:
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.

Anybody know the theory?
Probably just amateurs.

http://store.yahoo.com/doverpublicat...486442284.html


Eric you have pointed to a book on relativistic quantum FIELD theory
which is *different* from relativistic quantum MECHANICS.


Bjorken & Drell, Volume I.


Sure that those is abut nonrelativistic quantum mechanics? What is the
relativistic quantum wave equation for a electron?


Eugene, for instance, is working an example of relativistic quantum
mechanics, where one studies the full dynamics of *particles* not only
scattering processes in the infinite past and infinite future for
supposed fundamental fields -that nobody has measured-.


No, eugene only thinks that's what he's doing. In reality, he trying
trying to use quantum theory to evade quantum theory.


Metaphysical claims? If you cannot distinguhes between relativistic
qwuantum mechanics Bjorken & Drell, Volume I why would i believe that
you can correctly valuate Eugene own proposal?


Our own formulation of the topic is called quantum relativistic
dynamics.

http://www.canonicalscience.com/en/others/research.xml

A technical explanation of this approach will appear in the research
zone in brief.


It makes little difference, since the url above is unreadable.


No problem try on
http://www.ed.gov/parents/read/resou...s.jhtml?src=qc


Our theory has been already generalized to gravitation -showing why
Einstein General Relativity is not a correct approach to gravity- and I


Since you weren't able to grasp the idea of a non-relativistic
limit, I don't see how you could really claim to be doing anything
more subtle.


Have you computed the nonrelativistic limit of GR. Where? Interestingly
Dirac wrote similar thoughts about the failure for obtaining the
nonrelativistic limit of QED. Probably you unknown both...


Juan R.

Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)

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Old November 1st 05 posted to sci.physics,sci.physics.relativity,rec.org.mensa
Juan R.
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Default Relativistic Quantum Mechanics?


Eric Gisse wrote:
Gregory L. Hansen wrote:
In article .com,
Nick wrote:
Probability waves would contract and
dilate as particles sped up and slowed
down in space.


Yes.


Anybody know the theory?
Probably just amateurs.


It's been written about extensively. Greiner's book "Relativistic Quantum
Mechanics: Wave Equations" may be the most comprehensive treatment that
doesn't involve field theories.


I know little about either, so I ordered a book on relativistic quantum
field theory.

Bad choice?


I am sure. Most of is said in quantum field theory books is completely
wrong.

Greiner's textbook is NOT about relativisitc quantum mechanics, it is
about an inconsistent and experimentally wrong relativizitation of
quantum mechanics.

The complexity of the theorems proving that usual -textbook-
relativistic quantum mechanics is completely wrong is beyond usual
textbooks and articles on the topic.

Juan R.

Center for CANONICAL |SCIENCE)

 




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